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Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« on: February 12, 2018, 08:45:37 AM »
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38-14-3, 79 points | 33-19-5, 71 points

Projected Lines

Gourde-Stamkos-Johnson
Killorn-Point-Kucherov
Conacher-Namestnikov-Erne
Kunitz-Paquette-Callahan

Hedman-Stralman
Sergachev-Girardi
Coburn-Sustr

Vasilevskiy

             
Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
JVR-Bozak-Brown
Komarov-Moore-Kapanen

Rielly-Hainsey
Gardiner-Zaitsev
Dermott-Carrick

Andersen

Scratches

Matthew Peca
Slater Koekkoek
Jake Dotchin

      
Roman Polak
Josh Leivo
Matt Martin

Game Notes

TB
•Vasilevskiy (33-10-2, 2.29 GAA, .929 Sv%) will likely start for the Lightning
•Tampa had a stretch of games in January where they went only 5-5-1 and their lead on the Atlanic division was slipping away to Boston. Unfortunately, it's February now and they're 4-1 this month and they've averaged 5 goals for in those 4 wins
•Nikita Kucherov also had a rough personal stretch going where he went 11 straight games without scoring a goal. But he's scored in each of his last 2 games so he's back now too

TOR
•Andersen (27-15-4, 2.65 GAA, .921 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
•Patrick Marleau had a breakout game against Ottawa, finally joining his two new linemates on the score sheet. In the 8 games since Marner joined him and Kadri that trio has a combined 24 points.

Injuries

•Ondrej Palat - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
•Peter Budaj - Leg - Injured Reserve
      
•Nathan Horton - Back - Out indefinitely
•Joffrey Lupul - Actually Injured - Out indefinitely
•Nikita Soshnikov - Groin - Injured Reserve

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Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2018, 09:14:14 AM »
Should be an entertaining game. Two new school high seeded teams going at it. I just hope we don't come out of this one with the feeling I got after the last Boston game. Let's prove were not a first round push over.
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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2018, 09:15:04 AM »
...and GO LEAFS GO!
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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2018, 09:16:38 AM »
Did they break up their mega line for a reason? Kuch's cold streak, I assume?

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2018, 09:26:10 AM »
Hopefully they can handle the Bolts.

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Also, I'm wating on the roster move today ...
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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2018, 10:36:48 AM »

I guess Polak isn't being waived.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2018, 11:37:07 AM »

Wut.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 11:39:46 AM »

Wut.

In soccer trade/transfer requests have to be formally submitted in writing, while Leivo or his agent might have leaked something to an insider, it doesn't change the fact that they might not have filed the paperwork. Especially when Leivo kind of backtracked afterward and said he would rather play with the Leafs.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2018, 11:46:32 AM »
I was more wutting the Soshnikov situation.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2018, 11:50:09 AM »

Yup.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2018, 11:56:57 AM »

Yup.

That being said, I suspect this buys them another 24/48 hours to make the call on his health given how he performed down there.

A few days to see team doctors or a specialist in his injury to get the all clear.

I'm starting to feel bad for guys like Sosh, Leivo and Corrado.

I know they are compensated well, but it must be very unfulfilling to be that close to what they want, but still so far away.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2018, 12:22:26 PM »
This should be an interesting game to measure how the team stacks up against a cup favourite. Beating the Sens is one thing, but the Lightning are a completely different animal.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2018, 12:32:34 PM »
That being said, I suspect this buys them another 24/48 hours to make the call on his health given how he performed down there.

A few days to see team doctors or a specialist in his injury to get the all clear.

I'm starting to feel bad for guys like Sosh, Leivo and Corrado.

I know they are compensated well, but it must be very unfulfilling to be that close to what they want, but still so far away.

I don't really have a problem with him staying on IR after the conditioning stint. I am a bit curious to know how guy playing 3 games straight with top line minutes (and performing fine) qualifies as being injured. So long as Soshnikov does not raise a fuss, the PA and league won't likely step in, but I can see them voting to plug this CBA gap at the next opportunity.

Re: feeling bad for the fringe
I guess the argument here would be... play overwhelmingly better. Dermott and Kapanen made the jump and that's sort of why Leivo, Soshnikov, now Martin and so-on are where they are while the aforementioned are getting NHL minutes now.

Where I might contend with that in previous seasons would be Martin and Polak getting full time minutes at the expense of younger (and in my view, better) options. Now that I see Babcock will actually move on from a veteran when the options are no longer tied makes me feel a bit better.
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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2018, 12:37:50 PM »
That being said, I suspect this buys them another 24/48 hours to make the call on his health given how he performed down there.

A few days to see team doctors or a specialist in his injury to get the all clear.

I'm starting to feel bad for guys like Sosh, Leivo and Corrado.

I know they are compensated well, but it must be very unfulfilling to be that close to what they want, but still so far away.

I don't really have a problem with him staying on IR after the conditioning stint. I am a bit curious to know how guy playing 3 games straight with top line minutes (and performing fine) qualifies as being injured. So long as Soshnikov does not raise a fuss, the PA and league won't likely step in, but I can see them voting to plug this CBA gap at the next opportunity.


Just to clarify, he remains on IR until the Leafs doctors have cleared him.  So despite evidence that he's fine (him saying he's fine, playing 3-in-3 over the weekend), he can't just self-clear himself as ready.  They have conveniently pushed off the doctors seeing him by him staying at home today.

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Re: Lightning @ Leafs - Feb. 12th, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:14 PM »


I don't really have a problem with him staying on IR after the conditioning stint. I am a bit curious to know how guy playing 3 games straight with top line minutes (and performing fine) qualifies as being injured. So long as Soshnikov does not raise a fuss, the PA and league won't likely step in, but I can see them voting to plug this CBA gap at the next opportunity.

Re: feeling bad for the fringe
I guess the argument here would be... play overwhelmingly better. Dermott and Kapanen made the jump and that's sort of why Leivo, Soshnikov, now Martin and so-on are where they are while the aforementioned are getting NHL minutes now.

You don't think Soshnikov's point per game pace on his conditioning stint coming off an injury, his physical element, strong skating, being skilled on the PK and his booming shot aren't overwhelmingly better than Moore/Komarov?

As for his remaining on IR, I suspect it's only for the 24/48 hours until medical professionals officially clear him on the Leafs end, a time-saving measure for them to try and figure things out.

As you say I think this will be addressed in the next CBA or off-season, waivers was supposed to stop teams stalling guys careers like this.

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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2018, 12:39:14 PM »