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« Reply #945 on: August 02, 2019, 05:47:00 PM »
Gotta remember the Cavan is Bo's bro and Vlad the Impailers best buddy.  These kids are lighting it up.
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« Reply #946 on: August 02, 2019, 05:53:21 PM »
Gotta remember the Cavan is Bo's bro and Vlad the Impailers best buddy. 

You 100% do not have to remember that. He can be judged on his own merits and he's doing fine.
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« Reply #947 on: August 02, 2019, 06:31:54 PM »
Would a 93.4% remembrance be ok?  ;)
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« Reply #948 on: August 03, 2019, 10:19:49 PM »
So Sanchez and Biagini were part of a combined no hitter for Houston.

Thank you Atkins. Great trade.

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« Reply #949 on: August 03, 2019, 10:22:54 PM »
So Sanchez and Biagini were part of a combined no hitter for Houston.

Thank you Atkins. Great trade.

Don't forget our part of the deal, Derek Fisher getting smashed in the face whiffing on catching a fly ball...literally insult to injury.  :P

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« Reply #950 on: August 03, 2019, 10:25:23 PM »
Iím not a sky is falling kind of person or a management basher, but Iím having a real hard time getting behind any of the moves that this Atkins and Shapiro make.

Oh and Sogard hit 2 HRs today. I mean I donít care about losing Sogard, but thatís just hilarious.
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« Reply #951 on: August 03, 2019, 11:31:07 PM »
So Sanchez and Biagini were part of a combined no hitter for Houston.

Thank you Atkins. Great trade.

Sanchez was literally the worst starting pitcher in Baseball this year. It's great that he pitched well tonight and maybe the trade helps him sort some stuff out but if three years of waiting for Sanchez to return to form in a Jays uniform weren't enough how long should the team have waited while he was a replacement level pitcher? 8 years? Ten?
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« Reply #952 on: August 03, 2019, 11:46:25 PM »
I donít deny any of that. My point is why trade him now? Anyway. Iíve said this already.

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« Reply #953 on: August 04, 2019, 07:07:32 AM »
Iím not a sky is falling kind of person or a management basher, but Iím having a real hard time getting behind any of the moves that this Atkins and Shapiro make.

Oh and Sogard hit 2 HRs today. I mean I donít care about losing Sogard, but thatís just hilarious.

Fisher smashing his face on a routine fly combined with all this, yea, it's actually pretty sad/funny. It's just the way things go sometimes.

People were angry when Dwight Smith Jr lit it up briefly in Baltimore this year. He's now back to being a nobody.

These guys know how to evaluate talent; just look at their work in the draft and the international FA market. Bichette, Gurriel and Biggio are already big parts of the team and none was a 1st round pick.

Let's wait and see how Fisher turns out. I mean Stroman got pulled after 4 and 1/3 innings, is that now a better trade for us? There's a lot of hyperbole and overreaction right now and I don't think it makes a whole lot of sense.

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« Reply #954 on: August 04, 2019, 07:42:49 AM »
I donít deny any of that. My point is why trade him now? Anyway. Iíve said this already.

You trade him now because at some point, and three years seems like a fair point, it makes more sense to be giving those innings to just about anyone else in the hopes that you can develop them.

One of the things that the current management team has done consistently is try to find places for guys elsewhere if it's not working out here. Could the Jays have maybe gotten a slightly better return by trotting Sanchez out there start after start in the slim chance he gets better next year? Or demoting him to the bullpen in the hopes that he does better there? Maybe. But there was a tiny chance of the first and the latter was more likely to hurt Sanchez's career.

If he wants to make a go of it as a starter and another team maybe wants to take a crack at fixing him, it's a good thing to try and give Sanchez that opportunity rather than continue to hurt the team in the off chance that slightly increased performance means that next year they can get a C level prospect instead of whatever Fisher is.
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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #955 on: August 04, 2019, 08:26:12 AM »
Some good news here.  According to MLB Pipeline prospect rankings, the Jays P Nate Pearson is at #14 (of the 100 prospects listed for this year).

Torontoís first round draft pick (2018j Jordan Groshans is at #73.

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« Reply #956 on: August 04, 2019, 08:31:53 AM »
Derek Fisher with a ďfacial contusionĒ.  He ran mighty fast to catch that flyball.  Too bad he missed it.


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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #958 on: August 05, 2019, 08:07:23 AM »
The Blue Jay rebuild, and how much credit is given to Atkins & Shapiro in the process (both prior to, continuing, and proceeding):

P.S. The Blue Jays are one of MLBís youngest teams.

The rotation is still very much a work in progress, but the future in this department looks promising.


Story:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/analysis/2019/08/02/the-blue-jays-rebuild-is-behind-schedule-and-the-next-phase-is-all-on-atkins-and-shapiro.html?li_source=LI&li_medium=star_web_ymbii
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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #959 on: August 05, 2019, 07:03:05 PM »
Derek Fisher with a ďfacial contusionĒ.  He ran mighty fast to catch that flyball.  Too bad he missed it.

Maybe he should wear his glove on his face
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