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« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2015, 01:44:31 PM »
I want both the picks and the bottoming out.
They're not mutually exclusive but I think that if the Leafs tried to trade Kadri now there'd be some pretty disappointing offers on the table.

It's why keeping Kadri(and to a lesser extent Gardiner) makes sense for this season. With an increase in ice time, #1 PP duties and better linemates, Kadri could very well play himself into a position where he could be pretty valuable next summer.

I agree, and as usual, I've probably done a poor job of explaining myself.

I think Kadri and Gardiner are trading chips that I would wait until February to move (or summer) for the reasons you described above.

It's JVR and Bozak, and the tougher ones, Lupul and Phaneuf, that I wanted moved out this summer. 

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« Reply #120 on: September 09, 2015, 01:44:31 PM »

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« Reply #121 on: September 10, 2015, 10:12:42 AM »
Here comes #2: William Nylander
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« Reply #122 on: September 10, 2015, 10:25:20 AM »
It's JVR and Bozak, and the tougher ones, Lupul and Phaneuf, that I wanted moved out this summer.

I'm guessing that the people running the team wanted Bozak, Lupul and Phaneuf moved this summer also.
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« Reply #123 on: September 10, 2015, 11:58:52 AM »
Is there a reason I'm missing for wanting to move JVR?

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« Reply #124 on: September 10, 2015, 12:05:49 PM »
Is there a reason I'm missing for wanting to move JVR?

I think it's more of the same rationale of trading pieces with value to get value back for the rebuild.
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« Reply #125 on: September 10, 2015, 01:25:20 PM »
Is there a reason I'm missing for wanting to move JVR?

I think it's more of the same rationale of trading pieces with value to get value back for the rebuild.

Value that is timed to peak when the team is slated to peak, i.e. high draft picks.
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« Reply #126 on: September 10, 2015, 02:43:59 PM »
Is there a reason I'm missing for wanting to move JVR?

He's probably the team's most valuable asset over the age of 25, which means he'd come with the best return, and will probably be on the downside of his career when the rebuild is coming to an end.
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« Reply #127 on: September 11, 2015, 09:23:14 AM »
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« Reply #128 on: September 11, 2015, 09:25:52 AM »

I think this will be a very interesting year for Rielly. I think that most defensemen who eventually make it into the Norris conversation tend to show real signs of it within their first few years in the league. Not doing so wouldn't rule it out for Rielly but I think it would be a strong sign that he'd probably slot in that group just below that.
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« Reply #129 on: September 11, 2015, 09:48:37 AM »
I can see Rielly growing into a Drew Doughty-esque player.
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« Reply #130 on: September 11, 2015, 09:58:12 AM »
I can see Rielly growing into a Drew Doughty-esque player.

Right now that strikes me as a bit of stretch. Unless you just mean stylistically.
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« Reply #131 on: September 11, 2015, 10:19:50 AM »
I can see Rielly growing into a Drew Doughty-esque player.

Right now that strikes me as a bit of stretch. Unless you just mean stylistically.
I do mean stylistically, and not quite the raw numbers. Peaking at 80% Doughty would still be plenty elite.
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« Reply #132 on: September 11, 2015, 11:42:40 AM »
Don't forget when he was drafted, a few top scouts mentioned him in the same sentence with someone named Bob Orr. 
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« Reply #133 on: September 11, 2015, 12:23:27 PM »
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« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2015, 01:04:19 PM »
Don't forget when he was drafted, a few top scouts mentioned him in the same sentence with someone named Bob Orr.

Were they saying "There's no way that Rielly will be as good as Bobby Orr"?
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« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2015, 01:04:19 PM »