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Offline Potvin29

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Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« Reply #1500 on: April 03, 2015, 11:36:56 AM »
It's funny, but at the time of that trade I think the general feeling was, that Raycraft looked like a pretty talented goalie, and Rask looked alright, but was getting beat out for game minutes by our other goalie . Goes to show how much you can really tell about goalies at the early stages of their careers.

Rask was traded a year after he was drafted before he even came over to NA and he still played another year in Finland before coming over to Boston's organization.
After having an outstanding World Junior Championship.  I felt he was by far the goalie of the tournament and outclassed Pogge.  Raycroft wasn't even the backup goalie for the bruins at the time of the trade and general consensus was the he was a one hit wonder.  I don't mind that they tried something but trading the wrong prospect in my mind really upset me at the time.  They chose Pogge over Rask.  That was the mistake and its even easier to say it in hindsight.

I could be wrong, but I think at the time Rask was considered the best goalie outside of the NHL.

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« Reply #1501 on: April 03, 2015, 11:49:40 AM »
Oh, hello 2007.

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Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« Reply #1502 on: April 03, 2015, 12:52:44 PM »
It's funny, but at the time of that trade I think the general feeling was, that Raycraft looked like a pretty talented goalie, and Rask looked alright, but was getting beat out for game minutes by our other goalie . Goes to show how much you can really tell about goalies at the early stages of their careers.

Rask had just come off the WJC and was being hailed as one of the two best goaltending prospects in the world at the time, along with Justin Pogge.  I almost cried the day that trade went down... I knew what JFJ had done to our future.  Any fool at the time knew Rask was going to be a star...

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« Reply #1503 on: April 03, 2015, 12:57:56 PM »
It's funny, but at the time of that trade I think the general feeling was, that Raycraft looked like a pretty talented goalie, and Rask looked alright, but was getting beat out for game minutes by our other goalie . Goes to show how much you can really tell about goalies at the early stages of their careers.

Rask was traded a year after he was drafted before he even came over to NA and he still played another year in Finland before coming over to Boston's organization.
After having an outstanding World Junior Championship.  I felt he was by far the goalie of the tournament and outclassed Pogge.  Raycroft wasn't even the backup goalie for the bruins at the time of the trade and general consensus was the he was a one hit wonder.  I don't mind that they tried something but trading the wrong prospect in my mind really upset me at the time.  They chose Pogge over Rask.  That was the mistake and its even easier to say it in hindsight.

Yup.  I swear I almost cried when that trade went down... I was in shock, how foolish.  JFJ was trying to jump the queue and get the Leafs back to the playoffs, rather than just realizing we had the #1 and #2 goaltending prospects in the world, and to just let that play itself out.

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« Reply #1504 on: April 03, 2015, 02:30:34 PM »

Not that it matters a ton but Tuukka Rask being the #1 goaltending prospect in the world at the time of the trade was by no means a settled matter and Pogge being the #2 is an outright fiction. Price, Bernier, Montoya....and so on and so forth.
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« Reply #1505 on: April 03, 2015, 04:08:33 PM »
My memory isn't what it used to be, but I recall a lot of media personalities agreeing that Pogge was the one to keep of the two. As mentioned already, he had come off the world junior championships and was on his way to stardom. Huge mistake in hindsight, but at the time I would say the majority of media and fans thought Pogge would be the bigger star.
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« Reply #1506 on: April 03, 2015, 04:46:20 PM »
My memory isn't what it used to be, but I recall a lot of media personalities agreeing that Pogge was the one to keep of the two. As mentioned already, he had come off the world junior championships and was on his way to stardom. Huge mistake in hindsight, but at the time I would say the majority of media and fans thought Pogge would be the bigger star.

I'd say that's a fair statement, but that was mostly just because Pogge was Canadian and Rask was Finnish. People were bombarded with positive talk about Pogge because of his junior accomplishments but really it didn't take a hockey genius to know that a big part of Pogge's success were because he played on an absurdly good defensive team in the WHL and an even better Canadian team at the World Juniors. Rask was always the more talented goalie, people like the media just couldn't see it because they weren't watching games in Finland.

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« Reply #1507 on: April 03, 2015, 04:47:32 PM »
Man I stired up a hornest nest in this one, more water under the bridge or a little into my Scotch.
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« Reply #1508 on: April 04, 2015, 05:21:59 PM »
Carolina wins in OT. Gives us back one of those 2 wins.

Carolina 5 points up with 4 games left each. Can we hang on?
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« Reply #1509 on: April 04, 2015, 05:26:34 PM »
Forget Carolina, what about Edmonton?

Edmonton goes 4-0 and the Leafs go 1-3 (or 3-1 and 0-4) and the Leafs get 3rd!

Edmonton would have 67 points at the Leafs 66.

Completely unlikely, but, go Oilers go?

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« Reply #1510 on: April 04, 2015, 07:25:01 PM »
Forget Carolina, what about Edmonton?

Edmonton goes 4-0 and the Leafs go 1-3 (or 3-1 and 0-4) and the Leafs get 3rd!

Edmonton would have 67 points at the Leafs 66.

Completely unlikely, but, go Oilers go?

Ok you lost me completely when you said the Oilers go 4-0
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« Reply #1511 on: April 04, 2015, 07:42:00 PM »
I'll be honest, I called myself a silly, silly man while typing that.  8)

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« Reply #1512 on: April 04, 2015, 10:01:03 PM »

You know, for all the talk about how terrible it would be if LA just misses the playoffs and gets McDavid am I the only one who thinks it would be downright hilarious if that happened to Pittsburgh?
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« Reply #1513 on: April 04, 2015, 10:05:39 PM »

You know, for all the talk about how terrible it would be if LA just misses the playoffs and gets McDavid am I the only one who thinks it would be downright hilarious if that happened to Pittsburgh?

It would give Pittsburgh a reason to trade Crosby, or Malkin! 

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« Reply #1514 on: April 04, 2015, 10:07:35 PM »

You know, for all the talk about how terrible it would be if LA just misses the playoffs and gets McDavid am I the only one who thinks it would be downright hilarious if that happened to Pittsburgh?

Or even Detroit really. Right as the Yzerman/Shanahan era ends, they luck out by finding diamonds in the rough in Datsyuk/Zetterberg to take over. As that era ends they luck out with the lottery. I didn't realize how much both of those teams have dropped lately. They'll both probably still make it, but it'll be close.

I do kind of wish that there was still something that said a team could only move up a certain amount of spots by winning the lottery. Even if you increased it from what it previously was.