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« Reply #15 on: January 20, 2015, 10:26:06 PM »
So when we unite, do we make a sound like in the transformers when Devastator united, or is there a catchphrase like "Go, go shoddy defence", maybe a totally uncoordinated gang sign?  Just wondering.

Suggestions for chants:

"Fall down Clarkson"
"Eat at Kessel's"
"Glove side Reimer"
"Bring back Carlyle"

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« Reply #17 on: January 20, 2015, 10:43:55 PM »


The only thing that needs bubble wrap is the Leafs first round pick.  That  must be protected at all costs.
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« Reply #18 on: January 20, 2015, 11:25:02 PM »
Siegel with an incredibly thorough, incredibly depressing account of the unbelievably bad management of this team since 2003:

http://www.tsn.ca/management-failures-at-heart-of-current-leaf-state-1.187809

It is mind-boggling.  I honestly think I could have done a better job managing assets, and I am a jackass.

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« Reply #19 on: January 21, 2015, 01:16:09 AM »
Yikes, that article is depressing.

I'm all for a fresh resart. Wendel for Mats was the last trade that netted the Leafs a real 1st line/leader/player. It ain't gonna happen that way again outside of drafting that player.

Tank you, tank you very much.

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« Reply #20 on: January 21, 2015, 04:22:59 AM »
Short term pain for long term gain.

Although I'm not sure what long term pain for the last 9 or so years has done for us. It's been the wrong kind of pain I guess.
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« Reply #21 on: January 21, 2015, 07:37:19 AM »
I can't disagree with the assessment the article presents. Except for the Nolan trade. I will always maintain that it was the right trade at the time.

I could be wrong but I think since the trade Nolan ended up playing more games than any of the pieces that were involved in that deal. I'll have to look that up though.

Ohh... I was wrong. Forgot it was boyes. I thought it was just macauley and a 1st.
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« Reply #22 on: January 21, 2015, 07:42:38 AM »
I can't disagree with the assessment the article presents. Except for the Nolan trade. I will always maintain that it was the right trade at the time.

I could be wrong bit it think since the trade Nolan ended up playing more games than any of the pieces that were involved in that deal. I'll have to look that up though.

I'm going to back the Leetch trade too.  The Leafs would have been better getting Chris Pronger rather than another offensive defenseman but they gave up a 6th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, an 8th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, a 1st round pick (24th overall) and a 2nd round draft pick for what was supposed to be a year and a half of Leetch.  They got burned by a lockout that the Leafs never wanted.  That was still a very good team.  Borderline Cup contender, but a contender nonetheless.

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« Reply #23 on: January 21, 2015, 07:49:28 AM »
I can't disagree with the assessment the article presents. Except for the Nolan trade. I will always maintain that it was the right trade at the time.

I could be wrong bit it think since the trade Nolan ended up playing more games than any of the pieces that were involved in that deal. I'll have to look that up though.

I'm going to back the Leetch trade too.  The Leafs would have been better getting Chris Pronger rather than another offensive defenseman but they gave up a 6th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, an 8th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, a 1st round pick (24th overall) and a 2nd round draft pick for what was supposed to be a year and a half of Leetch.  They got burned by a lockout that the Leafs never wanted.  That was still a very good team.  Borderline Cup contender, but a contender nonetheless.

I can't do it. I can't wish for a loss. I am also under the opinion that this team will not be saved by drafting McDavid. He is only one player. I am also have the same opinion of Joe S, the NHL would not let him come to Toronto anyways.

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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2015, 08:32:18 AM »
I can cheer for them to lose. They're going to lose anyway, might as well get something other than a 15th overall pick for it. Doesn't mean I'll enjoy cheering for them to lose, but enjoy and the Leafs are two words that rarely go together these days, unless the word not is in there.

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Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 21, 2015, 08:41:34 AM »
I can't disagree with the assessment the article presents. Except for the Nolan trade. I will always maintain that it was the right trade at the time.

I could be wrong but I think since the trade Nolan ended up playing more games than any of the pieces that were involved in that deal. I'll have to look that up though.

Ohh... I was wrong. Forgot it was boyes. I thought it was just macauley and a 1st.

I was in Toronto that season and saw them play 3 games against Tampa, Colorado and Ottawa. I recall they won 1, lost 1 and drew 2-2 with Ottawa. The Ottawa game goes down as probably the best game of hockey I've ever seen for the combined quality of the teams, and the atmosphere in the arena.

As a Belfast native, I was of course delighted to see Nolan in the Leafs sweater too. He was also a genuine top class player at that time, and I guess we didn't know the trouble he was going to have with that knee injury.

As someone who was only really just getting into the team from around that era, little did I know it would be the beginning of a fruitless, frustrating and unrewarding relationship!
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« Reply #26 on: January 21, 2015, 09:11:43 AM »
I can't disagree with the assessment the article presents. Except for the Nolan trade. I will always maintain that it was the right trade at the time.

I could be wrong bit it think since the trade Nolan ended up playing more games than any of the pieces that were involved in that deal. I'll have to look that up though.

I'm going to back the Leetch trade too.  The Leafs would have been better getting Chris Pronger rather than another offensive defenseman but they gave up a 6th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, an 8th round draft prospect who was a non-NHLer, a 1st round pick (24th overall) and a 2nd round draft pick for what was supposed to be a year and a half of Leetch.  They got burned by a lockout that the Leafs never wanted.  That was still a very good team.  Borderline Cup contender, but a contender nonetheless.

I maintain if one trade was the absolute worst for the team long term, it was Rask for Raycroft.  If I absolutely had to pick one.

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« Reply #27 on: January 21, 2015, 09:16:50 AM »
And basically the conclusion from that article (hey Brendan, know you're reading) should be: don't trade anymore draft picks (exception: involves young, elite talent returning) and especially don't treat 2nd rounders like worthless commodities to include in every deal.

Oh god almost forgot about this already:

The Leafs then bought out that contract (Tim Gleason) and will have it on the books until the end of the 2018 season.

So unnecessarily dumb.
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« Reply #28 on: January 21, 2015, 09:36:17 AM »
I maintain if one trade was the absolute worst for the team long term, it was Rask for Raycroft.  If I absolutely had to pick one.

It started them down a really bad path, yeah. The trade itself was awful, but, it also lead to the Toskala and Giguere trades. It was really just a mess.
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Re: Tank Nation UNITE!!!
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2015, 09:37:22 AM »
I maintain if one trade was the absolute worst for the team long term, it was Rask for Raycroft.  If I absolutely had to pick one.

It started them down a really bad path, yeah. The trade itself was awful, but, it also lead to the Toskala and Giguere trades. It was really just a mess.

Yeah, you can just imagine so many other moves not having to happen if that deal isn't made.

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