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« Reply #1950 on: May 30, 2022, 09:21:19 AM »

Some things I'd recommend are:

1. We Own This City. Anyone familiar with David Simon's stuff might find this covers a lot of the same territory as the Wire but a really great show on its own that examines just what's gone wrong with modern policing. Jon Bernthal in particular is great in it.

2. Under the Banner of Heaven. A true story about a murder in a Mormon community in the 80's starring Andrew Garfield. Really first rate stuff that doubles as murder investigation and a reasonably non-judgemental history lesson about the Mormon faith.

3. Barry. Still one of the best things on TV, even as the story has branched out.

4. The Offer. A docudrama about the filming of the Godfather and the pushback they got from the Columbo crime family. Kind of schlocky and overdramatic(I think in general they think we're going to care a lot more than we do about the main character) but if you're a fan of the movie I think this really hits it.
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« Reply #1951 on: May 30, 2022, 06:23:07 PM »
I’m not enjoying Season 3 of Barry quite as much as the first two but man is Bill Hader fantastic.   He’s writing and directing most of the series on top of starring. 

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« Reply #1952 on: May 30, 2022, 09:17:08 PM »
I’m not enjoying Season 3 of Barry quite as much as the first two but man is Bill Hader fantastic.   He’s writing and directing most of the series on top of starring.

I agree that it feels less focused right now that the emphasis isn't on the acting class. Still, like you say, Hader makes it worth watching.
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« Reply #1953 on: May 31, 2022, 09:50:32 AM »
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Anyone else watch the first two episodes? Ewan was great, as was Moses (Reva), but the writing was... very Prequely. Is it just going to be the Mandalorian with more talking and face acting?

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« Reply #1954 on: May 31, 2022, 11:14:51 PM »
Anyone else watch the first two episodes? Ewan was great, as was Moses (Reva), but the writing was... very Prequely. Is it just going to be the Mandalorian with more talking and face acting?

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I thought it felt like most of the modern day Star Wars stuff. Superficially it's well made and well casted and talented people are involved throughout so it's never going to be "bad" the way the Prequel movies were but it also seems entirely uninterested in giving us anything new or presenting something with real stakes.

Like, I get it's Star Wars and everything but one of the reasons Rogue One worked to the extent it did is they were all new characters and we didn't know what might happen to any of them. Here, we effectively know everything that will happen to all of them.
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« Reply #1955 on: May 31, 2022, 11:19:08 PM »
Anyone else watch the first two episodes? Ewan was great, as was Moses (Reva), but the writing was... very Prequely. Is it just going to be the Mandalorian with more talking and face acting?

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Ahsoka: Rebels sequel

I thought it felt like most of the modern day Star Wars stuff. Superficially it's well made and well casted and talented people are involved throughout so it's never going to be "bad" the way the Prequel movies were but it also seems entirely uninterested in giving us anything new or presenting something with real stakes.

Like, I get it's Star Wars and everything but one of the reasons Rogue One worked to the extent it did is they were all new characters and we didn't know what might happen to any of them. Here, we effectively know everything that will happen to all of them.
I mean, I found The Mandalorian really slow and mostly boring and gave up on it. I'm actually really curious about the intermediate period between episode 3 and 4 and seeing as it was one of the most watched premieres in Disney history I think a lot of people feel that way too.
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« Reply #1956 on: May 31, 2022, 11:34:09 PM »
I mean, I found The Mandalorian really slow and mostly boring and gave up on it. I'm actually really curious about the intermediate period between episode 3 and 4 and seeing as it was one of the most watched premieres in Disney history I think a lot of people feel that way too.

Well, sure. Rogue One, likewise, is set between 3 and 4 but it gave us new characters who we didn't know all about. There was an old N64 game that I think was called Shadow of the Empire which is set between Empire and Jedi but, again, they didn't make, like, "Will Han Solo get unfrozen" a major point of tension because, you know, we knew he would.

But if other people like it that's great! I actually like that not everything is for everyone. I was just replying with what I thought about it.
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« Reply #1957 on: June 01, 2022, 09:06:31 AM »
I thought it felt like most of the modern day Star Wars stuff. Superficially it's well made and well casted and talented people are involved throughout so it's never going to be "bad" the way the Prequel movies were but it also seems entirely uninterested in giving us anything new or presenting something with real stakes.

Yeah, that's the crux of it. The animated shows really worked because there were characters to invest in that did not have clear destinies in the films. They also filled out the main characters from the films and redeemed those arcs with more sensical motivations. There was a good story and themes in the prequels, hamstrung by priorities on visual effects (that do not hold up) and atrocious dialogue.

Mandalorian worked because there was a pseudo mystery and a classic assassin begrudgingly adopts a child trope in a space western. Boba Fett didn't work until it turned into a show about the Mandalorian instead. Han Solo didn't really add anything other than making the Millenium Falcon weird.
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« Reply #1958 on: June 01, 2022, 09:42:36 AM »
Rogue One worked because it had Felicity Jones. Then they killed her.

The only good thing about Episode One was Darth Maul. Then they killed him. (and maybe the pod race, which was fun, especially in theatre)

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« Reply #1959 on: June 01, 2022, 10:08:32 AM »
The only good thing about Episode One was Darth Maul.

Fun fact: the Star Wars big wigs knew this, and subsequently Darth Maul has been in pretty much every new Star Wars thing since then.
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« Reply #1960 on: June 01, 2022, 03:04:18 PM »
Han Solo didn't really add anything other than making the Millenium Falcon weird.

Solo was a great exercise in the weirdest sort of fan pandering/answering questions nobody asked.

"Hey, you, did you ever wonder how Han Solo, the best character we created, got the blaster he used in New Hope?"

"Nope. He's a space cowboy, he has a gun. Seems self-explanatory, I'd rather see him go on fun adventures with his pals."

"Yeah, but do you want to see how he met all of those pals?"

"Nope. Just fun adventures please."

"Shut up, here's how he got the blaster."
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« Reply #1961 on: June 02, 2022, 10:25:08 AM »
Speaking of pandering: extremely weird how they made Carrie Fisher (RIP) into a TYPE. Every woman since cast as a lead is essentially whoever looks vaguely like A New Hope Leia right now.

Anyway, episode 3 of Obi-Wan was a much better entry and they're leaning into one of the best things Rogue One introduced.

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« Reply #1962 on: June 02, 2022, 09:07:11 PM »

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« Reply #1963 on: June 02, 2022, 10:56:49 PM »
Speaking of pandering: extremely weird how they made Carrie Fisher (RIP) into a TYPE. Every woman since cast as a lead is essentially whoever looks vaguely like A New Hope Leia right now.

Anyway, episode 3 of Obi-Wan was a much better entry and they're leaning into one of the best things Rogue One introduced.

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« Reply #1964 on: June 02, 2022, 11:06:42 PM »
Hey isn't that the guy from the Expedia commercials?

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