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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #195 on: March 03, 2014, 09:29:54 PM »
Bozak can't finish.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #196 on: March 03, 2014, 09:31:24 PM »
Good.  We deserved to lose.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #197 on: March 03, 2014, 09:31:42 PM »
No patience.  Not one guy understands hesitation, fire right into the shins every time. 

This team is hard to watch.  Clarkson, 7 years.  Brutal Nonis, brutal.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #198 on: March 03, 2014, 09:32:16 PM »
piss poor effort. complete no show for most of the game.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #199 on: March 03, 2014, 09:32:40 PM »
Well, at least Reimer was pretty good.
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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #200 on: March 03, 2014, 09:32:52 PM »
Gotta put Clarkson out after the goal of course.

Exactly.  I am a pretty laid back guy but that was frustrating coaching.  Absolutely idiotic use of assets.  As usual.
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Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #201 on: March 03, 2014, 09:33:00 PM »
1st line showed up. Gardiner I thought played well. And Reimer. The rest brutal.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #202 on: March 03, 2014, 09:33:39 PM »
Good.  We deserved to lose.

Yup. A tie there would have further masked all the glaring flaws this team has.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #203 on: March 03, 2014, 09:33:53 PM »
As for the Kessel line . . . outside of not being able to put the puck in the net, they've been pretty good most of the night and have created almost all of the Leafs scoring chances. I have no issues with them. They can't do it all, though, and they're all too frequently being relied on to do just that.

My point with them wasn't that I have an issue with them, just that they, like the rest of the team, have been less effective in the 2nd and 3rd than they were in the 1st and the difference there can't be attributed to anything other than themselves. Have they still been good on balance? Yes, but part of there being a back and forth as opposed to being hemmed in for 20 minutes is having them take a shift to the Blue Jackets and they didn't do that after the first. Again, that's not on Carlyle.

Positioning is an element of coaching but it's also an attribute of a player's game and they struggle with that because they're not a very good collection of defensive players. Carlyle might exacerbate that but he just can't do anything about guys forgetting who they're covering.
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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #204 on: March 03, 2014, 09:34:00 PM »
post-olympic march out of the playoffs continues

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #205 on: March 03, 2014, 09:34:25 PM »
2 points out of 6 coming off the break and the schedule is about to get tough. 

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #206 on: March 03, 2014, 09:34:44 PM »
Well, at least Reimer was pretty good.

It's a shame that this lousy effort by the team might mask that, really, Reimer should be getting more of a look down the stretch.
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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #207 on: March 03, 2014, 09:38:10 PM »
I get the point that plugging in a new defensive defenseman into a flawed system won't fix the defense.  But I think Nonis will feel compelled to add somebody new to the blueline.  It'll probably end up being a move like O'Byrne though.

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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #208 on: March 03, 2014, 09:38:31 PM »
It's hard to argue with that.  The only thing I can counter with is a lack of accountability?  I mean, if the team is continually not working hard, eventually that just becomes an acceptable part of the team culture.  If Phaneuf isn't going to stand up in the dressing room and do something about it, then the coach should.

Short of being a convenient go-to buzzword, I'm not sure what "accountability" ultimately means. Yelling at them? I'm sure Carlyle has done that ad nauseum. Benching them? Who? I don't know what you do really.
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Re: Blue Jackets @ Leafs - Mar. 3rd, 7:00pm - SN, SN 590
« Reply #209 on: March 03, 2014, 09:39:21 PM »
You've just isolated their number one problem here. The core of this teams defense is either too inexperienced, or too offensive minded.

Defence is, and always has been, a team thing, not a defenceman thing. The biggest defensive issue with the team is the system they play, not the guys on the blue line who are part of it. Adding a defensive defenceman or a more experienced player or two isn't going to have a material impact on that. They're not going to suddenly start playing a different system than the one their coach has been deploying them in all season.

Completely agree with the bolded part. But, team defence comes mostly from the players who can play that way, not what the coach shows them. Team Canada could have had a monkey coaching at the Olympics and they still would have won the gold, based almost entirely on their defensive play. That was the players, not the coaching.

Edit: show me a team full of good two way players and I'll show you a good coach. That seldom works the other way around.
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