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The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« on: October 31, 2012, 01:15:55 PM »

Just thought I'd start an additional thread for all non-Raptors related NBA stuff.

The Schedule

Lots of great storylines this year in what some are calling the most exciting basketball season in memory.  Can the Heat repeat with an improved bunch of shooters and a Lebron James without the pressure of people saying he can't win? What about the new look Lakers? Do the Celtics have one last shot? How soon will Derek Rose come back?

But largely, as per the title, this will be the place for Ern to give us Pacers updates. Personally, I'm excited to see if Gerald Green can build on last year's success and maybe even win the dunk contest.
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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 03:37:11 PM »



Watched the Celtics-Heat last night.  Although the Celtics didn't win, I see the makings of a pretty good team (I know I'm not really reaching here).  Probably the best shot at knocking off the Heat in the East.  At this stage of their careers I think I'd take Terry over Allen.  I like Courtney Lee.  I like Jeff Green.  Barbosa is a scorer... they've improved their depth for sure. 

Was interesting to see such a high scoring game also.

As for the Pacers (thanks Nik, I was meaning to start a Pacers thread!) until I hear how long Danny's out for I am sort of in a haze.  Having your best player out "indefinitely" doesn't bode well for the season.  I love me some Gerald Green though!

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 03:45:50 PM »
Warriors re-sign Steph Curry to a 4 year deal at $44M.  Just a shade under what Ty Lawson got.

For a dude that missed most of the year last year, and has been hameppered with the same injury this year in pre-season that's a pretty risky move. 

Warriors other "best player" Andrew Bogut is also recovering from an injury.  Could be a long year in Golden State (although, they have a pretty good bench).

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 04:09:50 PM »



Watched the Celtics-Heat last night.  Although the Celtics didn't win, I see the makings of a pretty good team (I know I'm not really reaching here).  Probably the best shot at knocking off the Heat in the East.  At this stage of their careers I think I'd take Terry over Allen.  I like Courtney Lee.  I like Jeff Green.  Barbosa is a scorer... they've improved their depth for sure. 

Was interesting to see such a high scoring game also.

As for the Pacers (thanks Nik, I was meaning to start a Pacers thread!) until I hear how long Danny's out for I am sort of in a haze.  Having your best player out "indefinitely" doesn't bode well for the season.  I love me some Gerald Green though!
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I watched the Lakers/Mavs game last night, and I was surprised by what I saw to be a big difference in coaching. Lakers' defensive looked sloppy and slow and Mavs ball movement was really good. Obviously it's just one game and the Lakers will be the superior team over but it had me wondering if maybe they're not going to be as good as they look on paper. I mean, on paper, they look to me like the best team in the league (yes even better than the Heat in my opinion, in spite of the huge advantage the Heat have in James) if they can make it work.
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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2012, 09:11:49 AM »
James Harden had one heck of a debut.

37 points, 12 assists, 6 rebounds, 4 steals.

I'm quite anxious to see what he can do now that he is the go-to guy. 

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 04:44:04 PM »
Mike Brown fired by the Lakers after just 5 games and a 1-4 record. Very surprised over how fast the Lakers panicked in the face of media criticism. As for candidates to replace Brown, the list includes Jeff Van Gundy, longtime Jazz head coach Jerry Sloan, former Knicks and Suns coach Mike D'Antoni, former Clippers coach Mike Dunleavy Sr. (who also coached the Lakers in the early 90's), former Blazers and Sonics coach Nate Macmillan, and even the legendary Phil Jackson (again).

Anyways, I'd be surprised if Mike D'Antoni didn't get the job. He's close with Kobe Bryant, and you'd be a fool to believe Kobe doesn't have a pretty big say in the next head coach. When Kobe lived in Italy while his dad was coaching in the Italian league Mike D'Antoni was Kobe's favourite player. Why do you think Kobe wears #8? Because D'Antoni wore #8. D'Antoni obviously has also coached Steve Nash before and the two were part of a perennial championship contending team in Phoenix. The two being reunited would liberate Nash from the "Princeton Offence" and let him play with the same flare he did in Phoenix. I think D'Antoni is a great fit right about now. I think he'll get the job.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 06:42:28 PM »
I'm not surprised in the least.  What surprised me was that they hired him in the first place.  He's not a good coach.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2012, 09:28:51 AM »

In a pretty big surprise, the Lakers have hired Mike D'Antoni to coach the team, choosing him over Phil Jackson who apparently was willing to come back.

Big gamble, it has to be said, but it should be fun as all get out watching this Lakers team play D'Antoni's offense.
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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2012, 04:14:26 PM »
D'Antoni will do a good job with LA. People come down on him for NY, but he was dealing with a circus beyond his control over there and he DID restore that team to respectability after being bottom-feeders for years.

He had great success with Nash and he already has a great relationship with Kobe. He's the right man for the job.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2012, 08:52:51 PM »
Pretty big story out of the NBA tonight.

San Antonio Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich scratched Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili and Danny Green for tonight's game against Miami so they could rest up for Saturday's game. Tonight's game is an unbelievable 12th road game of the month for San Antonio and their 6th game in 8 nights. David Stern, furious with the decision considering the game is on national tv, said there would be "substantial sanctions" forthcoming.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2012/11/29/tim-duncan-tony-parker-manu-ginobili-danny-green-gregg-popovich-heat/1736221/

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This is crazy. I get that the team is burned out but doing this right in the middle of the season is unprecedented. This isn't the last week of the NFL season or the last Sunday of the NBA season for a team that's already clinched their spot. Popovich has balls for doing this, let me tell you.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2012, 09:01:24 PM »
Well, my first thought is hey, the NBA did up the schedule so...

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2012, 09:42:21 PM »
Good on Pop.  The Spurs are an old team.  They have an incredibly stupid schedule in November.  Stern can shove his ego up his tailpipe.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2012, 09:50:19 PM »
Yeah I don't see how Stern could do anything about this. Fatigue seems like a legit enough reason to sit players. It's not like he was trying to intentionally lose the game or anything.

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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
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Re: The 2012-2013 NBA Thread: How are the Pacers doing, Ern?
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2012, 12:13:14 PM »
Yeah I don't see how Stern could do anything about this. Fatigue seems like a legit enough reason to sit players. It's not like he was trying to intentionally lose the game or anything.

I think this is a case where it's not necessarily a situation where what Popovich did was wrong so much as how he did it. It was a nationally televised game between two of the league's best teams and Popovich had a bunch of options available to him that weren't coming out and publicly saying that he wasn't going to play most of his best players. He could have had them suit up and not play many minutes, he could have spaced out who he rested, he could have been subtle about it.

TV money, like it or not, drives the NBA and the NBA does have to look after that relationship. It may be an unwritten rule that you have to take each game seriously but that's because any rule would probably be a bad one. If a coach like Popovich publicly flouts it Stern either has to hammer him with a fine or pass what would probably be a rigid rule that really would take the option of resting players away. That considered it was probably the better decision.
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