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Re: 2018 World Junior Allegations
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2022, 06:48:17 PM »
I don't think there needs to be an alternative to anything. Just the recognition that at it's best the criminal justice system is imperfect at determining guilt or innocence and that, rightly or wrongly, it puts a higher burden of proof on establishing guilt than it does innocence which makes it especially bad when it comes to sexual assault.

Flawed systems will produce some flawed results. I don't think that's a particularly controversial thing to say and we all sort of have to decide for ourselves what we think about individual cases.

That's reasonable, but the current zeitgeist seems to be that we believe all victims, which is a noble endeavor.

It does not account for the wrongly accused though, it's a tough one as I think there has been an overcorrection.

That's probably a natural correction though to the under reaction that occurred in the past, and if you were looking at it on a scale, I don't think that scale is anywhere close to being balanced.
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Re: 2018 World Junior Allegations
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2022, 08:39:16 PM »
That's reasonable, but the current zeitgeist seems to be that we believe all victims, which is a noble endeavor.

It does not account for the wrongly accused though, it's a tough one as I think there has been an overcorrection.

I don't know to what extent the current zeitgeist actually has any impact on anything though. I can think of quite a few credible accusations of sexual or domestic assault against prominent figures in recent years that didn't really seem to have any impact on them getting seats on the Supreme Court or signing 300 million dollar deals with Disney or winning Grammys so I don't know that this noble endeavor actually has a ton of meaningful effect outside of some corners of the internet.
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Re: 2018 World Junior Allegations
« Reply #32 on: July 28, 2022, 08:55:06 PM »
I wish to hell I’d never said "Winning isn’t everything it’s the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you’ve won.
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« Reply #33 on: July 28, 2022, 10:53:18 PM »
That's so gross.
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« Reply #34 on: July 29, 2022, 01:07:37 AM »
That's so gross.

Then don't look up Reid Boucher.

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« Reply #35 on: July 29, 2022, 09:01:37 AM »
Look up how well Ruslan Fedotenko got along with his billet family
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« Reply #36 on: July 29, 2022, 09:55:32 AM »
Look up how well Ruslan Fedotenko got along with his billet family

Matt Cooke too. 

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« Reply #37 on: July 29, 2022, 10:36:35 AM »
Look up how well Ruslan Fedotenko got along with his billet family
I'd rather not...
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« Reply #38 on: July 30, 2022, 10:31:15 AM »

Genuinely incredible that the people at Hockey Canada think they should stay in their jobs.

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« Reply #39 on: July 30, 2022, 11:40:48 AM »
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Re: 2018 World Junior Allegations
« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2022, 12:52:33 PM »
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The survey, commissioned by CTV News and The Globe and Mail, shows 73 per cent of Canadians feel anger about the situation, with 14 per cent saying they feel disinterest, about two per cent feeling satisfaction and 11 per cent who said they are unsure.

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The Nanos survey shows most Canadians oppose (71 per cent) or somewhat oppose (13 per cent) Hockey Canada using part of hockey registration fees to pay out sexual assault allegation settlements. Four per cent support it, while five per cent somewhat support it.

I'm very curious about where these opposing viewpoints are coming from
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Re: 2018 World Junior Allegations
« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2022, 12:52:37 PM »
I would imagine its more lack of understanding of a question.

Rather than saying "I think something other than registration fees should go to paying compensation for sex assaults" they are just saying "I agree with compensation being providing to victims of sexual assault.