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#1
Quote from: Joe on Today at 08:29:20 AM
Quote from: herman on Today at 07:58:03 AMI was just trauma-dumping and shitposting poop-posting... hmm, that should just be poosting. Going to make it a thing.

It is a good illustration of the Leafs inability to leverage emotions in a game situation under Keefe. He might be going ballistic on the bench, but the Leafs were encouraged, coached, trained to play stoic hockey. The reasoning was sound at first, don't get caught in the low moments and spiral out; but it also bit them in the other direction where they never really rode the wave (because inevitably, they'd get counterpunched on a soft goal off a blue-line turnover).

And that's fair - but that Ayers thing always triggers me, I have a hard time letting that go.

Have you tried trauma dumping online? lol
You could turn it into a youtube schtick for decades, and eventually a mini-but-tenuous podcast empire
#2
My Offseason Shopping List by priority
  • 2x RD: at least one should be top-4 capable; skill priority in order: puck retrieval acumen, PK effectiveness, skating, passing
  • Mid-range Goalie: stable presence, needs to be able to handle Toronto media, needs to not be a ghoulish conspiracy-nut
  • Middle 6 Centre: RH preference with PK experience; hopefully fast-ish
  • Cheap fast forwards: RH preference with PK and forecheckiness

My shopping options for each
  • Matt Roy, Chris Tanev, Dylan DeMelo, Alex Carrier
  • I don't know, trade for Filip Gustavsson?
  • Elias Lindholm (probably overpay a bit) or trade nearly nothing for a William Karlsson cap dump
  • Michael Amadio, Sam Lafferty (lol), Kasperi Kapanen (lmao)
#3
Quote from: mr grieves on Yesterday at 10:23:37 PM
Quote from: herman on June 12, 2024, 03:46:49 PM
  • unless Leafs can sell Marner on the change, EF thinks it goes into next season, as playing with Matthews is his best bet for a pay day
And here's a solution. Playing with Matthews might be Marner's best chance at a big payday, but it's likely not the team's best chance at playoff success. Berube spreads the attack out, lets Mitch drive his own (or Tavares's) line, and we'll see if he's a $100m player for any team he really wants to be on. I have my doubts!


Correct. Marner has never driven a line, and throwing 10+M (now 12+) at someone to ride sidecar is silly. I could see the surface logic of pairing your premiere playmaker with your shooty sniper centre, but uh, so could everyone else? Iced out both players by pinching off Marner whenever he had the puck in the playoffs.

This is why I wanted to spin him off last year before the NMC for someone like Lindholm and a top-4 defenseman.
Guy1-Matthews-Guy2
Whoever-Lindholm-Nylander
Lunch-Tavares-Pail
Fast-4th-Line
#4
I was just trauma-dumping and shitposting poop-posting... hmm, that should just be poosting. Going to make it a thing.

It is a good illustration of the Leafs inability to leverage emotions in a game situation under Keefe. He might be going ballistic on the bench, but the Leafs were encouraged, coached, trained to play stoic hockey. The reasoning was sound at first, don't get caught in the low moments and spiral out; but it also bit them in the other direction where they never really rode the wave (because inevitably, they'd get counterpunched on a soft goal off a blue-line turnover).
#5
Quote from: Joe on Yesterday at 07:02:04 AM
Quote from: Bender on June 16, 2024, 07:12:43 PMCrazier things have happened but I just feel that a comeback by Edmonton is just not going to happen.

I'm honestly asking - but what crazier thing has happened than a team blowing a 3-0 series lead in the finals?

Leafs facing their 40+ year old rink manager and erstwhile practice goaltender as an emergency backup, zipping in the first shot through but then proceeding to get shut out and lose in extremely embarrassing and memorable fashion. Said rink manager parlays his 15 minutes of fame into a Disney movie deal before getting milkshake-ducked as a narcissistic abuser.

The Leafs going on to sign the goaltender that got injured (Petr Mrazek) two seasons later to ignoble results, requiring assets to be spent in a trade to Chicago (trade down from 2022 25th overall to 38th). Mrazek backstops his new team to a 1st overall pick and potential generational scoring talent in Connor Bedard.
#6
Quote from: herman on June 15, 2024, 09:20:33 AMAnd if you want to know what the Marner camp is thinking, just watch for Darren Dreger.

https://twitter.com/FirstUp1050/status/1802704050313392633
lol
 
#7
Edmonton is going to look back at this series and think they did okay because this blowout win will make them look better than they actually were. Very Leafy experience.

Panthers clearly wanted to party at home instead of in Edmonton.
#8
https://twitter.com/dalter/status/1802336711566836066
He was angling for the head coaching gig and when he didn't get it, it made extra sense on both sides to move on
#9
Florida gifted Edmonton some life with a shortie against, and now taking their own penalty
#11
https://twitter.com/mikekellynhl/status/1661379180058099713
This is from 2022-2023

This might be a really funny way to lure the opposing team into a false sense of security because the Panthers are deliberately letting them rack up a 'possession' advantage and shot attempts, while fishing specifically for turnovers and odd-man rushes. See the Deserve-to-win-o-meter for these games.
#12
Quote from: Bullfrog on June 14, 2024, 11:58:20 PM
Quote from: herman on June 13, 2024, 12:48:50 PMAgain, the content of what's being said through the media is all just posturing for bargaining position on both sides. However, how it's being said points towards a divorce happening one way or another.

Can't you concede that what's being said is possibly true and that it's not just posturing?

I believe Marner would prefer to stay. I also believe he believes he won't get what he and his camp think he's worth, and he is open to pursuing it elsewhere, hence the loveless "Marner will fulfil his contractual obligation" position.

Everything ever said to the media in this industry is for the purpose of posturing. That's how negotiations work when there is public interest.

In the meantime, the Leafs front office just told their insiders to can it because it's not helping their position.

Friedman, on the 32 Thoughts podcast, has declared a moratorium on the topic of Marner
Quote"To end the news segment, I am going on a Mitch Marner moratorium. You cannot say anything about this topic without somebody going berserk," Friedman told co-host Jeff Marek.

"This is why this is the hardest topic to discuss in the NHL. This is why it is so complicated to the future of this and the outcome of this is so complicated because you can't say a thing without somebody getting mad. Even when you're trying to not say anything remotely controversial, people are getting mad."

The Leafs are using Chris Johnston to tell the rest of the league who is interested in Marner they have to step up their offers if they want anything to done.

Quote"The Leafs are not leaning on Mitch Marner right now. They have not decided 100 percent they have to trade him and or that they're going to make life uncomfortable and they're getting the list of names. None of that's what's going on," Johnston said on his podcast on Friday.

"I think there's some frustration just about all the public discourse about it. And look, that's the nature of the beast when you're that player. And when the possibilities are on the table that we're talking about," Johnston said. "But at this point in time, I don't think the Leafs have a deal for them. And I don't think they've gone to them and asked them for a list or anything like that. I think they have to, it does not make any sense for the Leafs to go to war with this player, to make this any more public than it already is."

Transcriptions from:
https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/i-am-going-on-a-mitch-marner-moratorium-does-the-discourse-on-the-maple-leafs-star-forward-need-a-break

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/toronto-maple-leafs/latest-news/report-maple-leafs-have-not-decided-100-percent-that-they-have-to-trade-mitch-marner

And if you want to know what the Marner camp is thinking, just watch for Darren Dreger.
#14
https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-matthew-tkachuk-wanted-to-sign-long-term-deal-with-flames-in-2019-160851344.html

He wanted a long term deal coming out of his ELC, but Calgary had a tight cap and could only do a bridge amount. So term went down to 3 years and he cut bait after that. Arbitration was filed to stretch out the timeline for them to work out the sign and trade. 
#15
Hockey-smart and money-dumb is the new market inefficiency.