4EVRLEAFAN
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I'm surprised by this, I thought it would be more.
Knies extended [6 years, $7.75mil AAV]
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herman
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I guess I have higher hopes for Jarnkrok's regular season standard reliability and utility, but nevertheless, your points make sense.
All our overpaid guys are under 3M, so the percentage overpaid is quite high, but not insurmountable, and certainly not outside the realm of trading them out for pucks n' stuff.
Zee
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That's 2 contacts now where it came in under the value I thought would happen. Why do I get the feeling that Dubas would have given Knies 10.5 million?
GhostofPotvin29
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bustaheims
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With the way I expect the market to go, I wouldn't be shocked if he did get $2M+. If Frederic gets close to $4M, a healthy Jarnkrok is a ~$2M player - even if he only produces around his average season.
herman
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Nylander equivalent contract today would be 8.36M AAV, and Knies under-performed Nylander a notch or two in raw production.
7.75 M is nice, but not an egregious discount; just clearly not a gouge.
Both Tavares and Knies' negotiations had some late anchoring numbers (4x5M, 5x7/8x10) come through the rumour/leak line, and they snuggled underneath those comfortably to make the players and team look good.
7.75 M is nice, but not an egregious discount; just clearly not a gouge.
Both Tavares and Knies' negotiations had some late anchoring numbers (4x5M, 5x7/8x10) come through the rumour/leak line, and they snuggled underneath those comfortably to make the players and team look good.
Zee
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Totally fair points on the Nylander vs Knies second contract debate. The big difference is timing, Nylander signed in a flat-cap world, while Knies will be negotiating in a rising one. That alone makes a huge difference. The upcoming cap jump should make his future number much easier to stomach, especially when you compare it to how tight things felt after the Big 3 signed. Context matters, and the financial landscape shifting helps frame everything in a more manageable light.
mr grieves
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Many years ago, yes.
He has an awful track record in the playoffs though....
bustaheims
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For $2M, you’re not getting someone who has a good track record in the playoffs. You’re getting a role player.
It became a flat cap world shortly thereafter and Nylander's contract ended up being better value than we realized by the end though.
Was he even useful as a role player?
bustaheims
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Sure. He puts up 30-35 points playing solid D. That’s a perfectly good role player.
I don't really recall him doing much of anything useful in the playoffs.
bustaheims
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That’s true of lots of role players. I’m not advocating for the Leafs to hold on to him, just that he’d get similar money as a UFA in the current market.