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Highlander

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Thought it may be a good idea to start a thread on what is going on in Europe. Definitely scary stuff and very concerning about further escalation.  I don't believe a conventional war is possible when the nuclear option is at everyone's fingertips. My wife is from the UK and is freaking out over this.  I know we can't control this but it may be good to have an outlet for us to discuss our concerns.
 
Highlander said:
Thought it may be a good idea to start a thread on what is going on in Europe. Definitely scary stuff and very concerning about further escalation.  I don't believe a conventional war is possible when the nuclear option is at everyone's fingertips. My wife is from the UK and is freaking out over this.  I know we can't control this but it may be good to have an outlet for us to discuss our concerns.
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Speaking of nukes, Ukraine is the only country to give up their nuclear arsenal.
 
They just seized the Chernobyl Nuclear Plant, so under Russian Army control.  Anyone have any idea what Putin wants with that?
 
Highlander said:
Thanks for the clarification Nik, no offence was intended.
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None taken. It's something I did myself in the past until I was educated by one of my best and oldest friends who's of Ukrainian heritage and still has family there.
 
Something worth noting is that for all the sanctions being announced they're not really going after Putin's wealth or that of his cronies. These are hundreds of billions of dollars, stolen from the Russian economy, that are used to buy real estate in Western countriees, luxuries and used as political contributions. This would be what would really put the squeeze on Putin but because it also threatens business interests in the west, they're opting instead for sanctions that will make life harder for Russian people.
 
Nik said:
Something worth noting is that for all the sanctions being announced they're not really going after Putin's wealth or that of his cronies. These are hundreds of billions of dollars, stolen from the Russian economy, that are used to buy real estate in Western countriees, luxuries and used as political contributions. This would be what would really put the squeeze on Putin but because it also threatens business interests in the west, they're opting instead for sanctions that will make life harder for Russian people.
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This is the way this constantly works. 

Lots of stolen assets are around the globe.  A significant portion of stolen money is in Switzerland and they have continued their claim of being "neutral"

This has really been an awful day.  I had good communication lines with family through the night but haven't been able to stay in touch as the day has gone on. 
 
Highlander said:
They just seized the Chernobyl Nuclear Plant, so under Russian Army control.  Anyone have any idea what Putin wants with that?
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Probably doesn't want to risk technological improvements leading to western government being better able to poke around and discover something that's not supposed to be there. Or, maybe he just wants to pave over the place to hide a major failing of the USSR.
 
L K said:
Nik said:
Something worth noting is that for all the sanctions being announced they're not really going after Putin's wealth or that of his cronies. These are hundreds of billions of dollars, stolen from the Russian economy, that are used to buy real estate in Western countriees, luxuries and used as political contributions. This would be what would really put the squeeze on Putin but because it also threatens business interests in the west, they're opting instead for sanctions that will make life harder for Russian people.
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This is the way this constantly works. 

Lots of stolen assets are around the globe.  A significant portion of stolen money is in Switzerland and they have continued their claim of being "neutral"

This has really been an awful day.  I had good communication lines with family through the night but haven't been able to stay in touch as the day has gone on.
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I am sorry to hear of your problems communicating with your family. I pray that everything is Ok with them. 
 
bustaheims said:
Highlander said:
They just seized the Chernobyl Nuclear Plant, so under Russian Army control.  Anyone have any idea what Putin wants with that?
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Probably doesn't want to risk technological improvements leading to western government being better able to poke around and discover something that's not supposed to be there. Or, maybe he just wants to pave over the place to hide a major failing of the USSR.
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They want the Uranium, or to prevent Ukraine from using is to make dirty bombs.  There is "spent" nuclear fuel on site and I know they were building a dry storage facility on site to store spent nuclear fuel from all over Ukraine.  Not sure if it's operational yet but there could be potentialy hundreds upon hundreds of tons of uranium in Chernobyl. 
 
thank you Nik. You beat me to it :) 

I've gone through and removed all the 'the' from the posts cause, well, as one married to a Ukrainian, it really grates for just the reason Nik mentioned.
 
Putins a twit and after reading what he said if true about what will be done if there is any interference from abroad is deeply concerning. Guys a lunatic. Whether he's all talk or is capable of starting something more worrisome is troubling.
 
azzurri63 said:
Putins a twit and after reading what he said if true about what will be done if there is any interference from abroad is deeply concerning. Guys a lunatic. Whether he's all talk or is capable of starting something more worrisome is troubling.
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The idea that he?s there to ?denazify? a country with a Jewish president is so laughable, it?s insulting.
 
There was that one shot of Putin on TV, I believe the one in the office when he was announcing the invasion, where he looked like a pure lunatic.  You could just see the craziness in his eyes and face.
 
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Joe/status/1497194009038626842

He says NATO when he means Moscow but, again, the Italian PM wanted to make sure the sale of Gucci and Prada weren't affected.
 
Nik said:
https://twitter.com/Barnes_Joe/status/1497194009038626842

He says NATO when he means Moscow but, again, the Italian PM wanted to make sure the sale of Gucci and Prada weren't affected.
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I think they'd just source them from China anyways...I'd bet this has more to do with Ferrari and Lamborghini.
 
With the threats now about Sweden and Finland, it's pretty clear Russia's grand scheme is to halt the expansion of NATO by proving the necessity and value in joining NATO.
 
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