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2025-26 NHL Thread

cabber24 said:
Give him a break, time to heal, and add +$10M to the roster would have been my preference. Yes, we may not have faced OTT in the first round but $10M more in roster like a Jones and a Marchand would have helped.
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Sure, except, without a medical professional signing off on it, the league won't allow it. The league is also allowed to get a second opinion on any LTIR placement they feel might be questionable, and, given that Matthews was healthy enough to play and the league was clearly looking to crack down on this stuff to the point that they introduced a playoff salary cap, that could easily have been an issue.

Can't just put someone on LTIR just because they're a little banged up. It has to be a legit injury. What we've seen haven't so much been fraudulent LTIR placements but rather teams allowing players to take their sweet time to get back into the lineup instead of pushing them back in as soon as they're healthy enough.
 
bustaheims said:
Sure, except, without a medical professional signing off on it, the league won't allow it. The league is also allowed to get a second opinion on any LTIR placement they feel might be questionable, and, given that Matthews was healthy enough to play and the league was clearly looking to crack down on this stuff to the point that they introduced a playoff salary cap, that could easily have been an issue.

Can't just put someone on LTIR just because they're a little banged up. It has to be a legit injury. What we've seen haven't so much been fraudulent LTIR placements but rather teams allowing players to take their sweet time to get back into the lineup instead of pushing them back in as soon as they're healthy enough.
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You sure can put someone on LTIR when it's known they could play before game 1 of the playoffs and never be held responsible. It's a fact.
 
cabber24 said:
You sure can put someone on LTIR when it's known they could play before game 1 of the playoffs and never be held responsible. It's a fact.
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You can leave someone on LTIR for a shorter period when it's known they could play before game 1. You can't place them there without a legit injury that prevents them from playing when you put them there or leave them there for months when they're healthy enough to go. That is a fact. Also, the player wouldn't go for it, the NHLPA would have issues with it, and the league would be investigating it because you'd have an unhappy player and the union making waves. Matthews wouldn't have been willing to go along with being on LTIR when he felt he was healthy enough to play. That is also a fact.
 
bustaheims said:
You can leave someone on LTIR for a shorter period when it's known they could play before game 1. You can't place them there without a legit injury that prevents them from playing when you put them there or leave them there for months when they're healthy enough to go. That is a fact. Also, the player wouldn't go for it, the NHLPA would have issues with it, and the league would be investigating it because you'd have an unhappy player and the union making waves. Matthews wouldn't have been willing to go along with being on LTIR when he felt he was healthy enough to play. That is also a fact.
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Kucherov and Stone AKA Stanley Cup winners.
 
cabber24 said:
Kucherov and Stone AKA Stanley Cup winners.
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Were both legitimately hurt until late in the season, but hung on for a little longer. Not really equivalent scenarios. They might have been able to come back for a few games, not many weeks worth, which is what you're suggesting for Matthews.

Also, Vegas barely used their LTIR space the year they won the Cup. Their big deadline add was Barbashev, who would only have counted for like $800K against the cap. Outside of that, they made some small depth moves that any team would have been able to make. Tampa took advantage of it, for sure, but the years Vegas has, they did not have the playoff success you're hoping for.
 
bustaheims said:
Were both legitimately hurt until late in the season, but hung on for a little longer. Not really equivalent scenarios. They might have been able to come back for a few games, not many weeks worth, which is what you're suggesting for Matthews.

Also, Vegas barely used their LTIR space the year they won the Cup. Their big deadline add was Barbashev, who would only have counted for like $800K against the cap. Outside of that, they made some small depth moves that any team would have been able to make. Tampa took advantage of it, for sure, but the years Vegas has, they did not have the playoff success you're hoping for.
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I think it was a missed opportunity. I think they could have presented a case that would have passed the NHL's loose smell test.
 
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