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2 things. 1. Shitting on things garners more attention 2. It's easier to walk back if he's an excellent player than it is to call the move excellent and then watch him stink.

This is hilarious. I'm not even saying Matthews is/was the problem. Or Nylander. Or Tavares. But the proof is pretty obvious. Marner continues to produce. The Leafs fall of a cliff. People are 100% correct that the team make up was the problem. Think of them like a solidly built chair or...

At what point do we admit that maybe Mitch Marner wasn't "the problem"?

2 more pages of Marner "discussions"? I thought we weren't talking about him anymore? If we really want to discuss the difference between the team with Marner and the team without Marner..I would argue that it's 14 points. 68 team points vs 82 team points. That's all that matters at the end of...

Well, I guess there's a reason dad doesn't have him running the family business

When teams like this load up, they always go to the top of my "cheer against" list.

The trade to get Laughton was upsetting. This, not so much. He's been horrible.

I'm not sure how upset we can be by this trade. He's a guy, that's been given consistent opportunities to play top 6 minutes and has yet to amount to anything other than a passenger. He has 32 points in 60 games playing with Nylander, Matthews, Tavares, etc....He's a nice story in that he was...

So, who do we think is saying "It's you, not me" right now? I can think of one guy.

I thought the exact same thing

Nylander Cowan

What a ridiculous thing to say. "officer, are you going to do anything to that a$$hole that rammed the rear end of my car in a fit of road rage?" "No sorry, i saw you look in your rear view mirror before it happened"

Kypreos would have been a much better player if he only tried harder.

I don't think that hit by Marchand was that bad.

Matthews Hildeby

Knies Matthews

I'm not taking away from Matthews. Gap may not be the right word if we're looking at talent. But I'd take Gilmour leading this team any day of the week over Auston Matthews. Do I want Matthews on my team?? Of course. Do I think he's a leader. Not in the least. So I guess my point is that if...

There's a pretty big gap between those two guys. Gilmour's war wounds proves it.

Even their social media post announcing the moves lacks any tact or creativity.

I got all of them as well. I despise acronyms.