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I think the biggest thing with him is his shape and conditioning, particularly when combined with having to play such a grueling position. He certainly has the hitting ability that, when matched with his defensive acumen, could really result in some position-leading years. The contract has...

Interesting stat, in 2022, when Vladdy got his GG and MVP votes etc etc....he and Kirk both had the exact same 4.0 WAR

All true, and this is a message board with people reacting live to the game they are watching, so you're getting raw, emotional reactions sometimes. Obviously sometimes people take it too far or are way too reactive but sometimes you have to let people vent.

This is the concerning part, and it has been an issue regardless of the caliber of their opponent; with the lead the team's philosophy changes and they stop any semblance of an offence and immediately attempt to protect their lead. I don't know how much of this is the group trying to adjust to...

Yea the bottom 6 is really just a concoction of players that don't fit or accomplish anything. Domi keeps rotating roles, and is so horrible defensively that he needs at least 1 huge defensive anchor on the wing, but the 2 best defensive forwards both play on line 1. Kampf is in no man's...

Man, some great performances today. But have to echo everyone else AM MD And WN as 2nd honourable mention

I think this is the harsh reality when it comes to Toronto. The Bostons, Tampas and, now, Florida's of the NHL have either figured out, or "earned" some kind of officiating latitude when it comes to dirty, aggressive hockey. Any Leaf that plays that way is getting suspended. From Kadri's 2...

To echo others, I think he really would benefit from a long break. With a healthy D and G tandem, the Leafs could probably manage up front without Matthews in the short term, and let him come back "healthy" in the playoffs: McMann Tavares Marner Knies Laughton Nylander Robertson Domi Jankrok...

Roberston out :rolleyes:

A big problem here, though, was that the Leafs spent more than they anticipated re-upping both Matthews and Marner, and then went to Willy with a 5M per year initial offer, which was a joke. You can talk about Pastranak, and, quite frankly, he took less from Boston than he could have squeezed...

He's quoting a post regarding how poor Nylander was, he's not knocking Marner. Anyway I really don't like Nylander with Tavares, they constantly have trouble getting out of their own end. Tavares needs much better support in the defensive zone and Nylander (as well as Domi) is probably the...

1st and Minten for Carlo, at 3.49M for another 2 years beyond this one, again, surprisingly, seems kinda, really good?

Not to mention having OEL locked in on the 3rd pairing for those 3 runs...

You know, I was prepared to hate this deal but after seeing the absolutely bonkers prices this deadline, dare I say I actually kind of like this deal? 50% retention, 2027 1st, top 10 protected, a 4th and 6th coming back for a legitimate 3rd line, penalty killing Centre with another year on his...

585 million and a contract that runs until Guerrero is 40 years old. I can't believe anyone could think that the Jays should have signed that deal. This guy already has no position or defensive value and is LITERALLY at the bottom on the entire MLB in baserunning. Imagine how he's gonna look at...

Carolina has a pretty decent lineup... :oops:

At the same time, alot of those scenarios were re-building, long-term retooling situations with significantly higher budget restraints. With the Jays now having a top-5 payroll in all of baseball, I imagine the idea would be to accrue assets and then spend generously on the FA and trade markets...

Well, apparently David Ortiz just "leaked" the numbers that Guerrero's camp were looking for: 13 years, 585 million.....https://www.bluejaysinsider.com/mlb-team/toronto-blue-jays/red-sox-legend-david-ortiz-leaks-vladimir-guerrero-asking-price Given that the Jays started early on with offering...

Like, their leader is literally trying to take over our country...and they're mad their anthem was booed....And doubling down on the idea of the invasion? I am convinced we are in a parallel, bizarro, FUCKED UP dimension....jesus man.....it's too much..

Ohtani got 700M (and Soto even more). I'm not sure what numbers Vlad's camp is spouting, but if he wants anywhere in the 500M and over amount, that is an absolutely crazy number, and huge risk, for the Jays.