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Pietrangelo Watch

herman

herman

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https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1307100573066506240

There?s so much time left. What did they say to each other?
 
herman said:
https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1307100573066506240

There?s so much time left. What did they say to each other?
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https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/1307106368646795266
 
I don't have a clue how we could get the cap space to do this, and I'm not even sure if a 7-year, $8mil contract is a smart move long-term... but I still wanna see it.
 
Deebo said:
https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/1307106368646795266
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Sounds like someone who wants to be paid 90% in signing bonuses to me.

Also, what on earth is St. Louis doing there?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I don't have a clue how we could get the cap space to do this, and I'm not even sure if a 7-year, $8mil contract is a smart move long-term... but I still wanna see it.
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Nylander goes for picks/prospects? Or do you dump Johnsson and say Kerfoot? I would def trade Freddie for Kuemper..its a 500k savings for us and 2.5 mill in actual money for the Yotes. I'm not sure about getting AP for 7 years tho. Yes he's good now but when does he drop off? Maybe he doesn't. Man I'd love to get a D man of this calibre. Just look at what Hedman does for TBay. He's a beast. Rielly and AP would be an awesome pairing.
 
https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/1307150792344899584

Watching each side of this picking which reporters to leak their version of these negotiations to is fun.
 
Deebo said:
herman said:
https://twitter.com/darrendreger/status/1307100573066506240

There?s so much time left. What did they say to each other?
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https://twitter.com/jprutherford/status/1307106368646795266
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This seems impossible. They can?t ask someone to sign a contract without showing them the contract.  And anyway, the player would just assume it is the worst possible contract for them at that AAV. It can?t possibly be true.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/1307150792344899584

Watching each side of this picking which reporters to leak their version of these negotiations to is fun.
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For once its not us!
 
https://theathletic.com/2015072/2020/09/19/exclusive-after-talks-break-off-with-blues-alex-pietrangelo-opens-up-on-future

?There was a discussion today, and I guess the best way to sum it up, we haven?t really made much progress,? Pietrangelo said in an exclusive interview. ?We just think right now, with where things are at, that maybe it?s best for both sides to see what?s going on in free agency, what the team can explore, what I can explore and if there are better fits for each side.

?We?re a little disappointed that we?re in this situation. We weren?t able to hammer out the details what we wanted in a deal. There was some work that we tried to get done that we couldn?t get done, so both sides agreed that maybe it?s in the best interest. We?re two weeks away. Not saying anything can?t change, but as of right now, that?s kind of our plan, and we?ll see where things go.?
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Pietrangelo also sounds open to 5-7 yr options (with St Louis) but NMC and signing bonuses are important to him: certainties in an uncertain time.
 
princedpw said:
This seems impossible. They can?t ask someone to sign a contract without showing them the contract.  And anyway, the player would just assume it is the worst possible contract for them at that AAV. It can?t possibly be true.
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They couldn't have asked him to sign, but maybe they wanted him to agree to a deal in principle so that way they'd know exactly how much cap space they'd need to start clearing.

I agree though if that's what happened it's still a bad look for St. Louis.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
princedpw said:
This seems impossible. They can?t ask someone to sign a contract without showing them the contract.  And anyway, the player would just assume it is the worst possible contract for them at that AAV. It can?t possibly be true.
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They couldn't have asked him to sign, but maybe they wanted him to agree to a deal in principle so that way they'd know exactly how much cap space they'd need to start clearing.
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That def sounds like like a possibilty. So if the ask is 9 mill, can the Leafs do it? Should they?
 
CarltonTheBear said:
They couldn't have asked him to sign, but maybe they wanted him to agree to a deal in principle so that way they'd know exactly how much cap space they'd need to start clearing.
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That sounds like a much more likely scenario than any other I've read. It just doesn't make sense for St Louis to go full monty burns in this; it reflects upon the franchise and attracting other free agents in the future -it's just bad business. It's clearly just player agents trying to put pressure on through the media like another local situation we had last summer. 
 
Frycer14 said:
Guilt Trip said:
So if the ask is 9 mill, can the Leafs do it? Should they?
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Personally, I think it's an incredibly risky move the way the team is constructed. I'd reluctantly pass.
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It's a tough call because you're going to have to get rid of in or around Nylander's money to make it work, but you're getting a bonafide #1 D man.
 
Guilt Trip said:
Frycer14 said:
Guilt Trip said:
So if the ask is 9 mill, can the Leafs do it? Should they?
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Personally, I think it's an incredibly risky move the way the team is constructed. I'd reluctantly pass.
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It's a tough call because you're going to have to get rid of in or around Nylander's money to make it work, but you're getting a bonafide #1 D man.
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Yeah, but you're getting a #1D who will likely begin a decline, while giving up a very young forward who will likely maintain or improve. I know they're in win-now mode, but they're painting themselves into massive corner. Any injuries to key players, and they're sunk with no depth to backfill.

If they could move Nylander for a young defenceman for which they could get more or less equivalent value, that would be something I'd investigate, but I doubt they'd end up with significant cap savings to fit pieterangelo on top of that. I dunno. I can see the appeal, don't get me wrong, but you'll have 20M in Tavares and Pieteranglo in a few years that can't be moved (assuming an NTC) of which you'll likely lament the situation.
 
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