herman
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No team has hired Treliving yet
NHL Draft 2026
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No team has hired Treliving yet
dappleganger
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Yes. Really it's just me venting on how terrible the Carlo trade was and how there seems to be different trade values depending on which side of the trade the Leafs are on.
Calgary's biggest mistake was not letting Treliving trade with them. Imagine how many trades they would have won!
Being forced to watch how the Stanley Cup Finals is somehow all about the Leafs and then reading that Artemi Panarin, who a) is 5th in the league in scoring since entering the league, b) has a career high of 120 points, c) has a Hart trophy nomination, and d) was a 2x First All-Star team selection and 2x Second All-Star team selection would somehow be an underwhelming projection for a 1st overall draft pick is very funny to me personally.
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It's bizarre on so many levels. Also, how could you possibly know what kind of playoff performer he might be? He seems smart and has had the spotlight shone on him for a very long time. It sounds like he is very determined to shore up his weaknesses and become a better player. I mean, scouts seem to invoke Patrick Kane a lot too, and he made a lot of noise in the playoffs.
I really do think the year in college did a disservice to him even though I think he was 2nd in p/gp as a 17-18yr old who had to transition from junior. I don't get how this is dragging his stock down.
dappleganger
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People knew what kind of playoff performer Mitch Marner was... until about 6 weeks ago.
Kaberle15
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I am happy for Mitch, so sad that he couldn't deliver a similar performance as a Leaf... he is on pace to crush his Leafs playoffs goals in a single run, deep run... sure. but 2 hat tricks, it is insane. He should be Playoff MVP as well...
#16 - 8 Seasons, 13 G, 50 A in 70 GP 0.9 PPG
#93 - 1 Season, 10G, 18 A in 19 GP 1.47 PPG
Man letting his jersey be 16 instead of 93 was a mistake
#16 - 8 Seasons, 13 G, 50 A in 70 GP 0.9 PPG
#93 - 1 Season, 10G, 18 A in 19 GP 1.47 PPG
Man letting his jersey be 16 instead of 93 was a mistake
Guru Tugginmypuddah
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I am happy for Mitch, so sad that he couldn't deliver a similar performance as a Leaf... he is on pace to crush his Leafs playoffs goals in a single run, deep run... sure. but 2 hat tricks, it is insane. He should be Playoff MVP as well...
#16 - 8 Seasons, 13 G, 50 A in 70 GP 0.9 PPG
#93 - 1 Season, 10G, 18 A in 19 GP 1.47 PPG
Man letting his jersey be 16 instead of 93 was a mistake
93 is retired.
Lets play along with that - and do something really crude to illustrate a pointI am happy for Mitch, so sad that he couldn't deliver a similar performance as a Leaf... he is on pace to crush his Leafs playoffs goals in a single run, deep run... sure. but 2 hat tricks, it is insane. He should be Playoff MVP as well...
#16 - 8 Seasons, 13 G, 50 A in 70 GP 0.9 PPG
#93 - 1 Season, 10G, 18 A in 19 GP 1.47 PPG
Man letting his jersey be 16 instead of 93 was a mistake
Leafs GFA for 8 playoff seasons was 2.66
Marner's .9ppg is 33.8% of the Leafs GFA offense
So Leafs GFA without Marner is 1.76
Vegas GFA for this playoff season is 3.74
Marner's 1.47ppg is 39.3% of the Vegas GFA offense
Vegas GFA without Marner is 2.27
So the Vegas depth without Marner outscores the Leafs depth without Marner by .51 goals per game
That partially aligns with what Tampa coach Cooper told us on how he beat the Leafs.
But so often when gawking at Marner's playoff points, fans overlook he led the forwards with +9 - he was good defensively
Leafs GAA was 3.04 while Vegas GAA is 2.63 so we have another differential of .41 in favor of Vegas - and the +/- indicates Marner is not the biggest culprit there. (all you have to do is watch him play)
Now that is just a very crude way to quantify (roughly illustrate) why a team would focus on curtailing Matthews-Marner's line because they knew they would kick the ass of the remaining Leafs depth. And that is what they did - even after Jon Cooper told us so. Now it evolved later as the Leafs got some depth and they eventually beat Tampa so it is not entirely as simple as all that every playoff but it was like that for a bunch of them and they never fully corrected the depth problem - in part, due to cap constraints and in part due to trading away prospects & picks.
Congrats, you derailed the thread. Awesome job.
dappleganger
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I'll take some of the blame. I thought not actually mentioning him by name in my post would help, but alas.
In any event on Scott Wheeler's latest mock draft at the Athletic he wrote "people around the league are more and more convinced it's going to be McKenna for the Leafs, and nothing I heard in Buffalo this week steered me in another direction".
In any event on Scott Wheeler's latest mock draft at the Athletic he wrote "people around the league are more and more convinced it's going to be McKenna for the Leafs, and nothing I heard in Buffalo this week steered me in another direction".
herman
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For the past three seasons, the Leafs front office and draft/dev team made special note to key in on making sure their picks were players who ramped up in tournament/playoff opportunities and could handle market/fan/internal pressure with some very targeted dev exercises.
I wonder if that's because they liked what they saw at the combine as well? Beyond maybe learning more about him as a person it's hard to know what would have solidified their pick.
This has to be more about the internal/media pressure than anything else right? There are so many more variables other than "Can they perform in the playoffs?" The question is more can they perform in the playoffs under this level of media scrutiny? I think also to some extent this comes down to how the team prepares young players for the spotlight. They really have to do a better job of teaching kids early that the media and fans aren't your adversary, but there will be scrutiny and there has to be acknowledgement and also resilience, and probably encouraging not reading social media commentary.