2016 Lead up to the Trade Deadline thread

[Highlander]

I thought they were only committed to Boyes and PAP for this year? 

 

[WhatIfGodWasALeaf]

The ability to spend outside the cap is a weapon and the Leafs leveraged it for future gains.

How so?

Are you kidding? They eat a net 2.25 million on Laich and got a 2nd(moved up about 90 spots from the 5th they gave up) and a real prospect in Carrick.

As for their ability to spend outside the cap, they buried Robidas in the Horton cupboard giving more legitimate future prospects a chance to play. They took Cowan from Ottawa to free themselves of the Dion shackles too.

By all accounts they were willing to take Bickell in the same type of deal as Laich, but Chicago wouldn't pay the price because they didn't get close enough on Hamhuis.

Look, I get that the return on investment wasn't as amazing as anticipated, but it was nowhere near a car crash. They basically print money as a franchise and after the performance of the kids last night, the people will flock back to the ACC these last 20/21 games or so. There will be no issue there, the ownership is looking big picture now.

 

[Highlander]

Well said Patrick

 

[CarltonTheBear]

ESPN's Craig Custance had the Leafs 4th in his rankings of how teams fared at the deadline (from Feb. 21st-Feb. 29th):

4. Toronto Maple Leafs

GM Lou Lamoriello showed creativity in getting Connor Carrick and a second-round pick in the trade that brought Brooks Laich into the fold. He was also able to get a fourth-round pick for a goalie when the goalie market was dead on arrival, and the Roman Polak trade was a thing of beauty.

Toronto now has 12 picks in June?s draft, and that number may actually push the limits of how many players in a draft class is a good idea.

?You have to be careful,? Lamoriello said. ?You can only sign so many players. ... When you sign them, the clock starts ticking.?

 

[Frank E]

ESPN's Craig Custance had the Leafs 4th in his rankings of how teams fared at the deadline (from Feb. 21st-Feb. 29th):

4. Toronto Maple Leafs

GM Lou Lamoriello showed creativity in getting Connor Carrick and a second-round pick in the trade that brought Brooks Laich into the fold. He was also able to get a fourth-round pick for a goalie when the goalie market was dead on arrival, and the Roman Polak trade was a thing of beauty.

Toronto now has 12 picks in June?s draft, and that number may actually push the limits of how many players in a draft class is a good idea.

?You have to be careful,? Lamoriello said. ?You can only sign so many players. ... When you sign them, the clock starts ticking.?

I wonder if they do the opposite of what they did last year and move up instead?

 

[Nik]

When you resort to ridiculing opinions, I know your argument is getting skinny.

Nonsense. Ridiculing bad opinions is my first resort, not last.

 
What I'm reading here is that "well, the market was obviously soft, so what are you going to do?  It is what it is, Lou can't force trades."  That sort of excuse from a pretty severe miscalculation has resulted in pretty big miss in terms of an extra $15m or so of payroll.  I promise you that the board isn't going to just say "ya, shit happens, good luck next year.  Let's do exactly the same thing again and hope for a better result.  No problem." 

Except as has already been pointed out to you you're totally misrepresenting the numbers here. The Leafs didn't spend 15 million dollars in payroll for players to move at the deadline an like I said in my last post, your argument for reducing the payroll relies on moving players who weren't here for that purpose. Bernier's under contract for another year, the Grabner deal was to shed contracts, etc.

The players that were brought in for that purpose are Boyes, Parenteau and Matthias and they represent 4 million or so in outgoings. Of course, they were able to get a fair return on Matthias so that doesn't really apply so it's more like 2 million for Boyes and Parenteau. And even then they, as I mentioned, needed warm bodies so it's really 2 million subtracted by the NHL minimum for both guys. So it's under a million dollars. Which is not a signiificant amount considering the size of the Leafs' business and especially not when you consider that Rogers and Bell are primarily interested in the team as a content generator.

 

[hockeyfan1]

Thought this was interesting:


http://nhllotterysimulator.com/#/2016

Story:
http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/2016-nhl-draft-lottery-simulator-percentage-auston-matthews-standings-maple-leafs-oilers-flames-canadiens-senators-canucks-jets/