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  1. Zee

    Leafs announce Shanahan not returning

    I wish. He'll sign an extension with Oilers July 1
  2. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    I don't like the sound of that Pelley statement. Every year they make 1 change and say it's enough. One year was hiring Treliving. The following year giving the captaincy to Matthews. Now this year is changing Shanahan the sole move? "Bring back the core!"
  3. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    I can top that. 89 year old Cliff Fletcher back in the top spot.
  4. Zee

    Leafs announce Shanahan not returning

    Oh I can fault him. Ultimately it's on the players to produce but by all accounts it was Shanahan constantly protecting the core 4. Phoning them up in the summer telling them they wouldn't be traded etc. What a failure of management.
  5. Zee

    Leafs announce Shanahan not returning

    I'm reliving that draft. I remember the Leafs had the best odds to land McDavid with one ball left and it didn't work out. The NHL probably tried to fix it and messed up lol
  6. Zee

    Leafs announce Shanahan not returning

    2-3 years too late but better than nothing I guess
  7. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    The silence is telling. No Leafs press conference yet almost certainly means multiple firings are in the works. If it were just one guy, they’d have spun it already. Feels like they’re lining up a bigger announcement, my bet is Tuesday or Wednesday next week.
  8. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    Finally got around to Chris Johnston’s podcast on the Leafs, he says the front office cuts could be deep. Whatever that ends up meaning, it’s hard to imagine Shanahan surviving this. At minimum, he’s gone. I clipped it for you guys...
  9. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    Absolutely. As part of the older crowd, of which I'm firmly a member, I find myself watching fewer and fewer Leafs games each season. Every year, you invest time and hope, thinking this time might be different, only to be let down when it matters most. I understand it's just sports, and in the...
  10. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    Many of us saw this exact scenario coming. Keith Pelley rolled out the tired “I just got here” excuse last year, like a CEO walking into a company that’s tanked for 9 straight quarters and saying, “Let’s stay the course.” Come on. Any real leader would’ve walked in and lit a fire. The idea that...
  11. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    Marner’s gone, book it. You don’t shut down all in-season negotiations if you’re serious about staying. That’s not a player preparing for the long haul, that’s a guy prepping for the exit ramp. As for Shanahan, he’s toast too. The optics are brutal. Jerseys being tossed on home ice twice in the...
  12. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    So when are the Leafs having the "Shanahan won't be back" press conference?
  13. Zee

    ECF: Florida Panthers vs. Carolina Hurricanes

    I'd be stunned if Freddie Andersen can beat this team
  14. Zee

    What's wrong with Auston Matthews?

    The NHL is weird this way compared to other leagues. Nick Jensen just had surgery for "lower body issue".
  15. Zee

    What's wrong with Auston Matthews?

    NMCs should be reserved for the absolute slam-dunk untouchable players. On this team that's Matthews.
  16. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    I like Woll too, can't blame him for what happened. Home-grown goalie is never a bad thing
  17. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    If management’s serious about making real noise, they need to hold back some cap space heading into the season. Don’t blow it all in July just because it’s there. The smart play is flexibility, keep room for an in-season swing if the right trade opportunity pops up. Every year, some star gets...
  18. Zee

    What's wrong with Auston Matthews?

    NTCs are fine. NMCs? Never again. If the Leafs want to build a future with real flexibility, they need to draw a hard line: no more no-move clauses. Full stop. You can give a guy a limited no-trade to offer some peace of mind, but the team needs the ability to pivot when things go sideways. A...
  19. Zee

    2025 Offseason Thread: Spring Cleaning

    All due respect Bullfrog but management has been saying this for the last 5-6 years now. "We're really close", no they're not. When your main players clam up during the biggest moments you aren't close. The core 4 had a combined 2 points in the final 4 games of the series. This happens again...
  20. Zee

    2024-25 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    I can't see any way that Marner wants to stay. He's had enough of the market and the criticism.
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