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Congrats, you derailed the thread. Awesome job.

This is the draft thread. Good lord guys. What are we even doing?

I'd just tell him to shut up and get back to work and revisit it in a couple years time if he still wants to move.

It's bizarre on so many levels. Also, how could you possibly know what kind of playoff performer he might be? He seems smart and has had the spotlight shone on him for a very long time. It sounds like he is very determined to shore up his weaknesses and become a better player. I mean, scouts...

Didn't Chayka say they spoke to something like 50+ candidates?

CW ain't gonna budge. Marner was a victim. End.

He was part of those shitty teams.

It's truly ad nauseum now. To a point where there's no reason to engage anymore.

I went to this one. I thought early on the refs were gonna let the game out of hand. They definitely did. It was hard to zero in on anyone with how many times we were doing the ref you suck chant 😂 but I thought Danford looked steady, AA good as almost always, the vets with a lot of jam.

Game 2 was arguably a snoozefest until Stankoven scored. Then it was non-stop action!

Sorry to hear. He led a good long life - hope I can make it that long.

I get it to some extent, but Knies is very young and has a lot of value being a power forward right now. Unless the Leafs actually are rebuilding (which they can't really BECAUSE of Treliving in the first place) there really isn't a need to trade Knies. It's especially bad considering how good...

Personally to some extent I think Howden is just blacking out on a great run. I don't think this is replicable and logical. You don't turn into equivalent of a 60 goal scorer just because you have Marner on your wing.

Its good that he learned from Marner. I'm just saying what I saw tonight was a big guy who buried two that a smaller or less tenacious forward wouldn't. That second move was all on his own.

Many on the panel said the challenge made no sense. Not only was the play whistled but Barbashev pushed Freddie's glove. The ref was also very emphatic about what he saw. I wouldn't rely on commentary in the moment to try and decipher what went on in Torts' head, but I thought it was a bad...

Even then I think if we're going to pivot at any point I'd rather have an 18yr old budding star to build around.

Bad challenge by Torts but crazy stutter step by Ghost and good shot by Jarvis.

He had 12 during the regular season. *Edit: Didn't realise he wasn't playing with him then. Marner gave him a good pass on the first one but that was just power forward magic shaking off a check and going top shelf. Then his second was all Howden. It's not just Marner, at least not from what I...

There's no reason to strip into the studs yet then. Whats the purpose of trying to be non-competitive? Matthews either signs a new contract or he's gone regardless so he will make the choice for us when the time comes.

My thought exactly. We likely will move him, but I wouldn't jump to that conclusion right this second. You should probably decently try to be competitive next year and I want to see what the moves are before I (like Matthews) throw in the towel since we don't really have a choice.