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2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Michael McCarron - traded for a 2nd round pick
Emil Soderblom - traded for a 3rd round pick
Warren Foegele - traded for a 2nd round pick

Soderblom has 3 points in 39 games although os only 24.

McCarron has 5 goals and 12 points in 59 games

Foegele has 9 points in 47 games

Getting a 3rd round pick for Laughton in comparison seems like a weak return albeit the bigger problem for me is that we gave up a 1st and a prospect for him

Guys like Jarnkrok or Benoit weren't going to have trade value. Stetcher has fallen off so I'm not surprised no one wanted him. Domi is a negative value player. Rielly I think is moveable but that's an offseason thing. I think not trading OEL was the right move if the team is going to try and compete next year and if they decide to rebuild you can move him in the offseason and I don't think that hurts his value all that much.

Ultimately we have a GM who did absolutely nothing all year while the team floundered and then did underwhelming selling off at the deadline.

We claimed Cayden Primeau on waivers instead of trusting Hildeby. He claimed Sammy Blais. He claimed Stetcher. Zero trades. Zero call ups from the Marlies.

The coach has run the same iteration of players over and over again. The only guy he seems to hold accountable for his play is Robertson.

I seriously question whether MLSE wants to have a fanbase with the Leafs. I think the fallout is coming. We already have games not selling out. If we don't get a miracle with the draft lottery this franchise is seriously at risk of heading into a lengthy rebuild and its popularity is vulnerable as the cost of everything keeps exploding
 
I like the empty seats. Kills the age old argument that the fans will keep blowing cash on them regardless of the on ice product. Personally, other than a few beers I bought at a game I got free tickets to, I haven't spent a dime on the Leafs in over ten years now.
 
Having had a night to sleep on it.

In terms of the individual moves the returns are probably about right.

It’s not those that anger me as such. They’re just the fly that landed on the straw that made it break the camels back.

It’s the seeming inactivity and paralysis. That goes as far as just running out the same roster over and over etc. They’ve made two waiver pick ups all season. There doesn’t seem to have been any efforts to fix or improve things.

They haven’t sacked the coach who is clearly not right. He wasn’t right last season but his goaltending kind of papered over it. He’s been even less right this season.

They’ve wasted or lost a year.

Then they’ve actually managed to devalue their own assets, such as Laughton. If you realised you were going to be outside and selling off, play him higher in the lineup, or stick him on the PP, or do what you can to maintain or boost his value. Dont stuff him away on the 4th line.

The Kampf thing was weird, too.

They need a “hockey” president. They need a competent GM. They need a young, progressive coach.

Honestly those 2 should probably just be sacked now and start thinking about next year properly.
 
This article I think speaks to what’s annoying me more than anything such as the returns for trades etc.

The just rudderless lack of obvious plan

www.nytimes.com

Amid Maple Leafs’ slump, the real story is the empty seats, boos and uncertainty

Toronto's 5-2 loss to the Lightning was the team’s seventh in a row, and with no announced direction forward, the fan base is in limbo.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

with no evident plan for how the organization and ownership plan to turn the page on this putrid Leafs season, the organization appears to be flirting with losing Leafs fans en masse.
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The lack of direction on the ice Saturday mirrored the apparent lack of direction off it.
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Even after a three-week break for the Olympics, it certainly seems as if the Leafs organization has not yet formulated a plan for the next steps.
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They are going to lose the fanbase if they aren't careful. It will come back but the Leafs becoming a team that is susceptible to empty stands when they are struggling is something this franchise won't recover from. I didn't go to a game this year. My son is bordering on old enough for me to feel that I could take him to a game. I'm not wasting 600+ dollars to take my wife and kid to a game, drive multiple hours to get to a game. If you asked me even last year I don't think that would even remotely be a consideration.

His favourite player is Celebrini (probably more just because of how it sounds) and he still says he loves the Leafs because Dad does, but I'm not convinced that his generation will care nearly as much.

Beyond that I'm concerned that Rogers doesn't care all that much about the Leafs and will view them as a cash cow rather than a passion project. I'm concerned they haven't made a move because they aren't convinced they are changing the coach because they don't want to pay for another one...albeit I think a more reasonable argument is we don't know who the best name available will be and we will want the new GM to make that decision.

I just think think at this point they should have made it clear that Treliving won't be making the decisions at the end of the year. Pridham can handle the cap aspect of promotion/waivers
 
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