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Tigger

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So, opening the thread I'm throwing out a salvo of whatever for next offseason. ( sure, ahat ) Big questions on D and I threw in Iginla for a larf. Guessing on Brown, Hyman, Zaitsev and Enroth contracts and a 2 mil increase in the cap.

FORWARDS

J. Van Riemsdyk ($ 4,250,000) --- A. Matthews ($ 925,000) --- M. Marner ($ 894,166)
N. Soshnikov ($ 736,666) --- W. Nylander ($ 894,166) --- J. Iginla ($ 3,000,000)
L. Komarov ($ 2,950,000) --- N. Kadri ($ 4,500,000) --- C. Brown ($ 1,200,000)
M. Martin ($ 2,500,000) --- F. Gauthier ($ 863,333) --- Z. Hyman ($ 900,000)

DEFENCE

M. Rielly ($ 5,000,000) --- ?. d ($ 0)
J. Gardiner ($ 4,050,000) --- N. Zaitsev ($ 3,000,000)
M. Marincin ($ 1,250,000) --- C. Carrick ($ 750,000)

GOAL

F. Andersen ($ 5,000,000) --- J. Enroth ($ 1,100,000)

Extras

K. Kapanen ($ 863,333) --- T. Dermott ($ 894,166) --- R. Valiev ($ 778,333)

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2017 NHL Cap Limit: $ 75,000,000
23 Player Roster Cap Used: $ 51,599,163
Cap Hit from Buyout(s): + $ 1,333,333
2015 Bonus Overages: + $ 0 ( potential 3.7 )
Cap Retained in Trades : + $ 1,200,000
Long Term Injury Reserve: - $ 0
Cap Space Available : $ 20,867,504


 
Yeah, the thread is about this year, that post is about what the team might look like at the end of the year and where the holes will be ( I could have just left out the free agent winger and not signed the leaf players )
 
One of my fav activities as a Leafs fan.  I'll put together a roster once Leafs training camp is underway.  Until then, we've got our hockey team, representing our Nation to support... and that marvellous U23 NA team. 

Hopefully the Jays can turn their September skid around, too.
 
Something to maybe keep in mind during these is who the Leafs are most likely to lose in the expansion draft. If they can protect 7, 3 and 1 then a quick work up of their protected players might be:

Kadri
JVR
Komarov
Leipsic
Brown
Martin(A big leap but you figure you'd protect a guy a year after signing him to a 4 year deal)

Rielly
Gardiner
Carrick

Andersen

So I don't think there's a ton to worry about forward wise. Either we lose a pretty minor consideration like Leivo or we get relieved of a not great contract like Bozak or Lupul.

Defense is probably the bigger issue. It seems fairly unlikely that the team will be able to keep both Carrick and Marincin so this season will probably be a long evaluation as to which one is more valuable going forward.

 
I think there's a decent chance both Carrick and Marincin will finish their current contracts in Toronto as far as expansion goes. How many defencemen are we talking about being exposed?

Edit: Also, the only way it really matters is if they both knock it out of the park, if one is clearly the one to protect, ok, if they are both at that level, a trade should be possible.
 
With Vegas being forced to meet a minimum of 60% of the cap through the expansion draft, I wonder if maybe Lupul or Bozak might actually be more appealing to them. Or, if they're really just looking for a cap acquisition, maybe even Horton - though, that is, admittedly, a long-shot.
 
bustaheims said:
With Vegas being forced to meet a minimum of 60% of the cap through the expansion draft, I wonder if maybe Lupul or Bozak might actually be more appealing to them. Or, if they're really just looking for a cap acquisition, maybe even Horton - though, that is, admittedly, a long-shot.
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I kinda think Horton is an impossibly long shot.  There are enough overpaid but still viable players in the league that they'll be able to fill their payroll easily without stooping to Horton.
 
bustaheims said:
With Vegas being forced to meet a minimum of 60% of the cap through the expansion draft, I wonder if maybe Lupul or Bozak might actually be more appealing to them. Or, if they're really just looking for a cap acquisition, maybe even Horton - though, that is, admittedly, a long-shot.
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I think that Bozak would get claimed for sure if he was exposed, not sure the Leafs will do that though unless they're hands are tied with the requirements.
 
Tigger said:
I think there's a decent chance both Carrick and Marincin will finish their current contracts in Toronto as far as expansion goes. How many defencemen are we talking about being exposed?

Edit: Also, the only way it really matters is if they both knock it out of the park, if one is clearly the one to protect, ok, if they are both at that level, a trade should be possible.
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You protect three defensemen. I'm assuming Zaitsev is exempt so two of the three spots will be Gardiner and Rielly. So one of those two will almost certainly be exposed.

And it only matters in the sense of projecting who will be on the team next year.
 
herman said:
Would they even look at our non Rielly/Gardiner defense if Bozak and Komarov were exposed?
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Depends on how valuable they think those guys are, I suppose. In terms of Carrick it's not super hard to see a team thinking a young, affordable RHD is more valuable than a couple of expensive 3rd liners in their 30's.
 
Nik the Trik said:
Tigger said:
I think there's a decent chance both Carrick and Marincin will finish their current contracts in Toronto as far as expansion goes. How many defencemen are we talking about being exposed?

Edit: Also, the only way it really matters is if they both knock it out of the park, if one is clearly the one to protect, ok, if they are both at that level, a trade should be possible.
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You protect three defensemen. I'm assuming Zaitsev is exempt so two of the three spots will be Gardiner and Rielly. So one of those two will almost certainly be exposed.

And it only matters in the sense of projecting who will be on the team next year.
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I meant how many will be exposed league wide, I get the reasoning behind the three you noted.
 
Tigger said:
I meant how many will be exposed league wide, I get the reasoning behind the three you noted.
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Beats me in terms of league wide. Still, the Leafs will lose a player and we should be mindful of who it might be.
 
Did a quick go through GeneralFanager's expansion draft tool, and assuming every team protects 3 defencemen (some might opt to go the 8-skaters route instead of course), this is the pool of potential defenceman available:

Despres/Fowler/Stoner
Schenn
McQuaid/Miller
Pokka/TVR
Zadorov/Wiercioch
R. Murray/J. Johnson
M. Green/J. Eriksson
Fayne
Pysyk/Petrovic
Spurgeon/Scandella
Hickey/de Haan/Pulock
Klein
Cole/Pouliot/Dumoulin
Braun/Dillon
Coburn/Garrison
Orlov/Orpik
Enstrom/Stuart

I did that pretty quickly, in some cases it's an either/or pick per team or a team has to expose 2 of them.

That might be a big enough pool of decent-to-good NHL defencemen that Marincin or Carrick (whoever plays worse this season) goes unclaimed.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
Did a quick go through GeneralFanager's expansion draft tool, and assuming every team protects 3 defencemen (some might opt to go the 8-skaters route instead of course), this is the pool of potential defenceman available:

Despres/Fowler/Stoner
Schenn
McQuaid/Miller
Pokka/TVR
Zadorov/Wiercioch
R. Murray/J. Johnson
M. Green/J. Eriksson
Fayne
Pysyk/Petrovic
Spurgeon/Scandella
Hickey/de Haan/Pulock
Klein
Cole/Pouliot/Dumoulin
Braun/Dillon
Coburn/Garrison
Orlov/Orpik
Enstrom/Stuart

I did that pretty quickly, in some cases it's an either/or pick per team or a team has to expose 2 of them.

That might be a big enough pool of decent-to-good NHL defencemen that Marincin or Carrick (whoever plays worse this season) goes unclaimed.
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Thanks for that Carlton.  That's what I was thinking about...like is Marincin or Carrick really that enticing when compared to what will be exposed? 

Looking at that list, for example, I'm not so sure.
 
Frank E said:
Thanks for that Carlton.  That's what I was thinking about...like is Marincin or Carrick really that enticing when compared to what will be exposed? 

Looking at that list, for example, I'm not so sure.
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I think that if Carrick were exposed (and had a relatively successful 16/17 season), he might stand out a little bit as a younger defenceman with an offensive upside higher than a lot of defencemen on that list. Being an ever-elusive right-handed shot probably would make him a little more enticing too.

After looking at that list though I'm not sure I'd be too worried about Marincin, unless Vegas has a stats guy they trust who really, really likes him.

edit: Then again, they have to pick SOMEBODY from the Leafs. So if the forward options aren't appealing (which they might not be) then they'd go with a defenceman by default.
 
I think that as things stand right now, the Leafs will protect the following players: Kadri, JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Martin, Brown, Leipsic, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen

That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
edit: Then again, they have to pick SOMEBODY from the Leafs. So if the forward options aren't appealing (which they might not be) then they'd go with a defenceman by default.
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OK, that I didn't know.  So that changes things for me...hmmm.
 
CarltonTheBear said:
I think that as things stand right now, the Leafs will protect the following players: Kadri, JVR, Bozak, Komarov, Martin, Brown, Leipsic, Rielly, Gardiner, Carrick, Andersen

That would leave the following players exposed: Horton, Lupul, Holland, Rychel, Leivo, Marincin, Loov, Corrado. With the assumption that Lupul, Holland, and Marincin all meet the GP requirement.
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Here's hoping that Rychel develops this year and he would be protected.
 
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