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guys...guys...this is going to be very sad but borderline hilarious.  Lupul will be forced to play on the 4th line causing martin to go to the marlies for the week of games until he blows out his wrist or elbow being overzealous taking a drink from a waterbottle. I mean its not like this guy is...

no, I agree...poor choice of words. clearly hes too hurt to play now...but I often wonder what the issue is that gets him on the LTIR. he could have forced the leafs hand either by proving hes too good to keep off the ice or by going the PA second opinion route...so I think hes just not...

I think though what is missing is all the stories of his burning passion to play hockey again.  There are no stories of him skating with jr teams to get in shape, there are no stories of him working with skills coaches and how he is in the best shape of his career; is faster, stronger and shoots...

but guys...come on...I mean...the defenseman did lose his stick.

I think maybe next year they can re-sign polak for cheaper than now and hopefully dermott can have an impact at the nhl level. that makes RD: Zaitsev, carrick, polak, LD:Rielly, gardiner, dermott with marchenko/marincin/whoever else as off the bench guys I've heard mirtle talking about...

yeah, they played this on detroit sports radio and to be fair the hosts didn't buy it.  Their point was that Detroit has been bad for a few years now and babcock took a bad team to the playoffs for the last few years he was there. Also, he won one cup and probably would have won the second if...

I think its possible that a club is talking to the leafs about a deal that sends back a contract or where the leafs retain...but it strikes me as more of a see if anyone bites after he publicly said he wants to go somewhere else.

how so?  are you talking hunlak who both won't be back next year anyway?  or are you talking jvr bozak who are maybe deals for the offseason anyway.

I agree nik.  Of course I wouldn't mind trading nylander for [insert superstar defenseman name here] but ultimately if the value isn't coming back there shouldn't be a trade and I think the leafs brass will hold to that too.  This is why we won't see the leafs make any big moves this deadline.

well put nik

my point is that you don't trade duchene at 20 (and nylander) for anybody because hes going to be a really good player in 1-3 years...hell nylander is already really good at 20. I mean, if the leafs play their cards right nylander could be a point per game guy as a centre could he not?  I mean...

the thing with Nylander is that he is going to be a centre.  So you have a 20 year old with the potential to be a 30+ goal centre within the next couple of years...certainly by the time he is 25(barring injury).  So basically you have matt duchene at 20 that people want to trade for what?  a top...

Headline story today on sportsnet by Chris Johnston: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/rest-assured-maple-leafs-fans-william-nylander-isnt-going-anywhere/ I must say I am getting tired of the tsn guys literally just making stuff up.

I thought it came from the slightly ridiculous thought that shattenkirk would come to toronto on a 2 year deal with a huge cap hit because he'd still be 30 and able to sign a long term deal when its done and the leafs would have to resign marner and matthews so would need the cap space then...

So what you're saying is that larsson isn't that much worse than Jones and that Johanson is much more valuable than hall.

Why is the hall larsson trade setting the market?  Why cant jones johanson set the market.  A much better hockey trade.

thats the sense I get too.

were there any rumors suggesting they were looking at rental pieces?  I had always thought it would be ufas for picks and maybe some of the vets for young help on D or prospects/picks

JVR is going to be 29 when his current deal ends at the end of next year.  I certainly don't want to sign him to a 5 year deal at 29 even if its a middle of the road contract (like 5-6mil).  He is going to be on the decline for pretty much the entirety of that contract. I get not trading away...