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  1. mr grieves

    Kraken @ Leafs - Oct. 18th, 7:00pm - SN

    Marner and Nylander were both equally trade-able for about a month after Tre was hired. After July 1, Marner had the NMC and Nylander a modified no-trade clause. Had he traded Nylander to one of the teams on his list, the Leafs would probably now have whatever they got for Nylander and Nic Roy...
  2. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    Except not this time. So...we're in better hands with Treliving? IDK.
  3. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    Yes, that's the quote and media availability I'm referring to. Lock clean-out interviews of May 2024. Honestly, I don't see a player that's particularly interested in extending with the team, but, even if you do, there's the actions of his camp. Fact is, getting Marner on a new contract wasn't...
  4. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    Well, there's no running it back without a running partner. Are you "letting someone go" when they walk out on you? So the options here were: (1) let Marner play out his contract and leave in free agency or for a rights trade, or (2) do whatever you need to do to move him out NMC be damned...
  5. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    I don’t agree that Marner declared he wanted to stay in Toronto. Willy and Matthews did. Marner said he grew up here. And I think Treliving had more insight than we can glean from Marner’s clean out quote, as he’d met with him for year-end meetings and had met with Ferris before that pre-draft...
  6. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    Everything that you take as evidence that Treliving wanted rid of Marner is what any GM would do when he’s given reason to believe a player isn’t interested in coming back. Your account starts much too late (the better reporters who spend time around the team noted that Marner was "over" playing...
  7. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    No, it doesn’t make a lot of sense, which is why it didn’t happen that way. “GM DNA”didn’t walk away from the player; the player left the team.
  8. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    I hope Robertson sticks somewhere and/or the team finds its way to 3 scoring lines. Not much upside in the end of the core 4, though, if I’m being honest, there’s not much to be excited by here and I figure it’ll be a two-year process. Still, I’d try Knies - Matthews - Maccelli = seems to be...
  9. mr grieves

    Idiocracy 2024

    But have you considered that that is the exceptionalism?
  10. mr grieves

    Idiocracy 2024

    Sounds like you know a family of conservatives. Lots of people believe that stuff and always have, and I agree that when everyone's left to their bootstraps it gets increasingly hard for people to believe they can elect a government that can do anything else. But I think Midwestern conservative...
  11. mr grieves

    Idiocracy 2024

    I don't think the motivation is economic, just that the ultimate causes are. You get the culture that your material and political conditions give you. If you are wealthy and powerful and you helped us along into the War on Terror or 08 Crash, you won't suffer any consequences whatsoever, but if...
  12. mr grieves

    Idiocracy 2024

    Nah. I don't think think meeting in the middle and toning down the words will change any of this. That was the Biden fantasy. We here in the states have had Gilded Age levels of wealth inequality and political sclerosis for a while now, but we didn't quite have the political violence. Well, now...
  13. mr grieves

    Dakota Joshua being traded to Toronto

    ZBBM’s seems the most likely outcome to me! The Shanaleafs signed RFA deals that delivered no added value in the Covid flat cap era and pissed away a lot of picks and prospects trying to accelerate the convention window for a deficient core that didn’t deserve it. They could still go on a run...
  14. mr grieves

    Reaves traded to San Jose

    Brad cleaned up his own mess. Good. I think he's doing a pretty good job lately.
  15. mr grieves

    Marner to Vegas is finally happening

    If Marner was only really interested in going to Vegas, I wonder what this deal would've looked like last off-season. We've heard that Treliving wanted Theodore, but that was a non-starter. So, Roy and... that other Nic, the defenseman? The rights to Marchessault? Karlsson, maybe? I think that...
  16. mr grieves

    Marner to Vegas is finally happening

    Because the free agent market sucks and we got no picks! Just to get that turd the rest of the way down, here are the media availabilities from the locker cleanout day immediately before each could re-sign with the team. Marner’s been excerpted here before, as evidence that he announced his...
  17. mr grieves

    Marner to Vegas is finally happening

    Which, to me, sounds like a guy who already knows the player isn't going to re-sign. We don't have much insight into what goes on behind the scenes--Treliving is pretty adamant about not detailing negotiations in public--but it looks to me like Marner's camp knew he wasn't coming back to the...
  18. mr grieves

    Marner to Vegas is finally happening

    Perhaps he felt he could say that because he knew those players were willing to sign whereas he couldn't with Mitch because he knew he didn't want to be here? Here's what he said about Nylander being unsigned in October 2023: I am not going to get into any public discourse. I don’t say that to...
  19. mr grieves

    2025-26 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

    This is something I wondered about when it became clear that the flat cap was going to lead to the Browns, Kapanens, Hymans, Johnssons and the like getting moved out for a rotating cast of league minimum supporting players. Extreme wealth inequality and a hollowed out middle class isn’t...
  20. mr grieves

    Marner to Vegas is finally happening

    It’s like Bender said, I think. In life, there are certain types of people always ready to be aggrieved, who marinate on and stew in slights, and push those self-pitying narratives to build up the sense of entitlement needed take, take, take every thing that they can, except, of course, any...
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