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I’d just like to point out that this is why it’s not as easy as ‘get rid of the 11-13mil player and get 2-3 players instead’. I’m not saying anyone here pushed for that (I don’t remember if anyone did) but I know that was all over talk radio for years.

You’re welcome

https://www.thebeaverton.com/2021/11/i-bet-you-fucking-idiots-think-im-about-to-drop-this-puck/

An we not just shoot domi out of a canon?

That’s my point. This was clearly a favour for Florida. No one else was getting this deal.

I have to strongly disagree with this. Marchand engineered that trade specifically to Florida. They traded a 2nd round pick. That’s it. I’m sure there are other examples that prove your point better, but Marchand is not it.

I don’t think the nhl is out to get the leafs, I just don’t think the league gives a shit about the leafs. And the team was well run there for a short period and then shanahan couldn’t get out of his own way. But this Treliving era is awful. We’re back to the JFJ days. I’m almost convinced...

Sure. But you can’t really deny that he league seems to put the screws to the leafs. I don’t for a second believe that if a leafs player had hit Bobrovsky in the head and knocked him out he wouldn’t have been suspended. He would have been out of the series, whoever it was. Remember Belak...

The NHL head office is in NY. But, I don’t think it’s about appearing favourable to Toronto, I just don’t think the league gives a shit about Toronto. It’s a stable market that makes money regardless of the state of the team. And all their league disciplinarians are ex NHLers, and many seem...

The nhl, for years, has been a bush league. I’ve not seen another professional sports league that plays so fast and lose with its rules, suspensions and fines.

True. But even when they were in the lineup the team didn’t look all that impressive

The lame point I was trying to make was what horrific trades these were. I know hindsight and such, but these were unforced errors.

If Laughton was worth a 1st last season, is he still worth a 1st? What about Carlo?

What I’m trying to figure out is why did it get to that point? Why can domi skate around out there like an idiot, play no defence at all, but he’s a valued member of the team, but Kapmpf is seen as useless? Look I get he’s he 4th line guy and nothing more, and I’m not losing sleep over it, I...

Can someone explain to me why they shot Kampf out of a canon? How could he not be useful at this point? I don’t get why Berube dislikes him so much. He’s strong and defensively responsible. Isn’t that what Berube wants?

Unless something dramatic happens in this Treliving era, he’s close to joining the hall of fame Leafs GMs with JFJ, Floyd Smith and Nonis. In my mind anyway. If there’s a rebuild that’s going to happen, I don’t want him to manage it.

That’s fair. I hadn’t considered that.

I expect nothing less from the great Treliving.

It’s kinda funny/sad, but I looked back at the Carlo trade thread and the sentiment was overwhelmingly positive. Not about Carlo himself, but how set the defence was for the years to come. How quickly things have changed. It’s so easy to do this in hindsight, but that Carlo trade is now...

I just turned the game on - was that Cujo behind Hildeby?