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  1. IJustLurkHere

    Stars @ Leafs - Nov. 1st, 7:00pm - TSN4, TSN 1050

    So I would only describe myself as a novice of advanced metrics, but surely part of their goal is to bring luck (or if we don't like the word, chance, or variation) into the discussion, not try to remove it? Probabilistically speaking, luck is in math... if I have a coin, everyone knows the...
  2. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    Is it though? We?ve gotten used to every decision in Leafsland being about the long term, but let us look at this year in isolation for a moment. The Leafs are 8-5, and when healthy have an amazing offence, great PP, solid goaltending... and cap space to burn. They also have a lot of middling...
  3. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    In the event of (c), the Leafs will have squandered one of their 4 greatest assets in a year where there is an excellent opportunity for a cup due to the low salaries of Matthews and Marner. I wonder what the blowback will be if we trade Nylander and he immediately signs for $7.
  4. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    Since Michael Nylander made over $25m as an NHL player (the bulk after gaining his reputation for being difficult), and William has already made around $3M, I doubt William?s lack of income is presenting the cash flow problems that you or I might experience in a similar position. I believe...
  5. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    Except this whole ?bad spot? thing is entirely premised on what Nylander is rumoured to be asking, without regard for what the Leafs May be offering. If we go back to the Sportsnet article quoting execs saying he was asking to much, there was a Kypreos suggestion the Leafs were offering 4 years...
  6. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    No problem - wasn't asking you to plant your flag on that hill and defend it forever more, just thought I might have missed some news. My worry is Nylander might dig in and make it a test case for 2nd contracts... but otherwise, the shift I think we've seen is that teams and players are both...
  7. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    Is there any reason to believe an ask of $8Mx 3? There?s good reason bridged deals come with that deep discount.
  8. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    I believe Trouba is on a 1 year $5.5M arbitrated deal because his demand on anything long term was $8M+. I suspect in the end he'll get his $8M+ rather than getting traded too. The few young, top end RHD (e.g Trouba, Rastolainen) which would make it worth trading are not likely to be traded...
  9. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    So, I?m not sure how people believe contract negotiations work, but No negotiation I?ve ever heard works by a TV like scripted process where 6 turns to 8 turns to 6.5 turns to 7.5 turns to 7 and everyone shakes hands... While there seems to be a view that the Leafs wanted 6ish (whether 6, 6.5...
  10. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    It can happen during the season, but would be incredibly unlikely, and it?s not a way for a team to get a discount. There just isn?t mutual incentive. Marner and his agent know as well as anyone that he?s a great shot at 100 points this year. There?s no urgency for them to sign unless they get...
  11. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    Yeah, if it gets that far, I think a trade the most likely outcome. I hope it won?t... realistically, this was always going to be a tough negotiation (regardless of Taveres), but my concern is this has the ingredients to go deep... and as a Leafs fan it has the perfect feel to Be the other shoe...
  12. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    I take your point- I?m thinking less about the 8th/9th year than about the difference between a $7m and $8m offer over the next 8 years. I.e the offer is: 7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7=56 What he gets is: 0-8-8-8-8-8-8-8= 56 (and yes if he then signs 8x8, another year at 8 tacked on the back) I take your...
  13. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    They?ll trade for him and sign for him because he?s good. We?ve seen it time and again with contract disputes, if they can play, eventually they get signed... the alternative is ending up somewhere like the Jets and Trouba did (1 yr $5.5m)... and a ?show me? deal is an entirely reasonable...
  14. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    Yeah, my point was more around where the financial pressures actually arise than the literal match payments. If we want to break it down to exactly when he?d need to sign for an $8m difference to become the driver, I bet that?s something his management has done and explained to him - but, while...
  15. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    If the difference in ask/offer is $8m, then it costs Nylander $8m to sign the leafs contract vs what he thinks he?s worth. The total value of $8m by 8 is $64m. If the Leafs are offering (hypothetically) $7, that?s a $56m value contract. So from Nylander?s perspective the difference is $8m... if...
  16. IJustLurkHere

    Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM

    By this stage in his career Nylander isn?t going to starve if he misses a couple of cheques. The math is not about whether the difference in ask over the course of the contract amounts to more than he?ll lose by sitting out a period of time. If the hypothetical $8m per for 8 years is accurate...
  17. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    Nylander may not have many options, but it?s not like the leafs do either.... it?s not like Tyler Ennis is a feasible replacement.Sign, trade, sit - those are the scenarios, and trade or sit are just as bad for the Leafs - who want to win - as they are for Nylander. Leverage is not a zero sum game.
  18. IJustLurkHere

    Contracts for the Big-3

    If Dubas had all the leverage, Nylander would already have signed. Interesting idea that being a fan means supporting the guy in the suit over the guy in the jersey. Personally im a hockey obsessive who knows the cap situation, but I don?t tune in for the math.
  19. IJustLurkHere

    2018-19 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion

    My interpretation is that it means Kyle Dubas has read Blink by Malcolm Gladwell, in which there's a chapter that talks about the impact of orchestra's going from open auditions to having musician's audition behind a screen. Prior to the change, nobody would have said they were being biased, but...
  20. IJustLurkHere

    Jets @ Leafs - Mar. 31st, 7:00pm - CBC, TSN 1050

    This. Further, the Leafs play 4 forwards on the Powerplay, so as odd as it is to see a Komarov getting PP time, you'd guess he the 8th man picked. The alternatives tonight being Hyman, Brown, Plekanec and Kapanen.I'd guess Komarov gets the nod for being a "heavy body" in front of the net.
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