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This is a definite wait and see trade, O'Rielly has less points than Engvall so I wouldn't include O'Rielly in any list of superior players TO needs to be more successful in the playoffs. I do expect O'Rielly would be a fine addition to TO's bottom 6, I'd love to see him and Engvall on the same...

The entire bottom six has generally struggled to produce so far in 2023. As a whole, by my count, in the 17 games this calendar year, they have 10 even-strength goals, and Pierre Engvall has four of them. Pontus Holmberg has two, Zach Aston-Reese has two, Dryden Hunt has one, and Joey Anderson...

TB is in trouble but since they've won the Cup within memory things can be understandable/forgiven, what we're seeing from TO is not an isolated problem, it's an annual, TO ability to finish the year strongly has not been in evidence since the Matthews/Marner regime started, TO's ability to win...

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TO should've lost both games, it's totally on JT, Mitch, Willie or Bunting to score or create, the rest of the team are passengers, not particularly good offensively or defensively. Lifeless and clueless, no chance TO is going anywhere in the playoffs, sad. Fixing the bottom 6 isn't going to...

You can call a rose by any ....

TO doesn't finish top 5 every year, it finishes top 16, if by some miracle TO could progress beyond the 1st round in the playoffs then we could say TO has finished in the top 8, teams actually rest players during the regular season, they make interesting/questionable trades at the TDL because...

I believe the Andersen trade was made possible because of the Kessel trade, the 1st rounder involved was Pitts. I liked the Boyle trade, I didn't think TO would go far in those playoffs but I did think that the players, new and old, needed to feel the excitement and gain playoff experience...

Good for Barkov, don't like ASGs, really don't like TO's best risking injury for such stupid functions, other stupid functions are anything not directly related to the NHL like World Cup Hockey(can't remember name), Olympics, etc.

Isn't it great, some people can be nice.

Of course what I'm saying isn't possible but that doesn't mean it isn't needed. The alternative is watching history repeat itself. I keep reading articles from the media about who TO should trade like Engval and Holl, I figure these are 2 of TO's true value players, they're not overpaid like...

We can make demands while also being calm, the question is can we be calm if TO loses in the 1st round again this year after Dubie does nothing to significantly improve a roster that absolutely requires a massive infusion of talent and character. I've lived thru the years since TO's last Cup, I...

After every game TO loses against, say Mtl., fans express their displeasure with the obvious purpose of demanding things be done to improve the team. Demanding isn't logical but it's there, nothing about forums is logical, it's a place to express displeasure/hopes for what's going on at any...

This is a forum, the purpose of a forum is to discuss/demand, in this particular case, the Leafs. If you have this thought, what's your purpose for being here?

You don't see the logic in "TO lost to TB last year in the first round, TO's bottom 6 scored 3 or 4 goals, 2 of which were empty netters, TB's bottom 6 scored something like 12, that's a huge obstacle for TO and it's great core 4 to surmount." It's not a problem if it's a one off but it isn't...

I think the story is, where is the support, if other teams in the playoffs somehow stymie Willie, Auston, Mitch and JT that's it TO doesn't have reasonable weapons to back them up, to expect just 4 players to carry the load in the playoffs is magical thinking. TO lost to TB last year in the...

How dire is it? Tavares, John-32 Kerfoot, Alexander-28 J?rnkrok, Calle-31 K?mpf, David-28 Simmonds, Wayne-34 Aston-Reese, Zach-28 Rielly, Morgan-28 Holl, Justin-30 Giordano, Mark-39 Benn, Jordie-35 Murray, Matt-28 These are the ages of over half of TO's lineup, I would say that when a team has...

The teams that TO has faced in the playoffs in the Matthews/Marner years has been: Tampa .692% Boston .688% Washington .636% These %s are their records during that time, TO winning % .649, these are the top 4 teams over this period. If a team is going to be the best then they have to beat the...

JT in front, 2 guys on the half boards and 2 point players is what I've felt usually happens except when they had Bunting out there. Having players like Willie and/or Mitch down low is ideal and something I look for intently every game, not as a happenstance but out of deliberation. I can...

Even tho TO's PP is relatively successful it leaves me wanting more like more goals and more shots for instance. TO's PP goal was Gretzkyish, JT set up behind Nashville's net and passed out to Willie, because Nashville's players were looking at JT they couldn't set up a proper defense and...