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ooops. My math was off! I'm cautious of relying on "robidas island". What if he remains healthy enough to play, but his play has dropped off dramatically? Would you be comfortable paying Giordano $4.5M?

+ Thanks for clarifying. He'll actually be 42 at the end of a 7 year deal, but that's beside the point. Playing to 40 is rare. And given he's a physical player, I'm quite concerned his play is going to drop off a cliff fast. Definitely going to be interesting. If he's signing to a reasonable...

Sorry, realized my post was unclear. I was referring to Tanev. Some are suggesting an 8-year deal. He turns 35 late this year, which would make him 43 at the end of the contract.

Giordano, at 40, is the oldest player in the league. No one would seriously think even a 5 year term was on good faith.

I should have asked him. :) Marner was just in town to throw out the first pitch for his bro-in-law's baseball game.

Other way around. He's extremely flexible and has to work on stabilizing and encapsulating his joints.

Fining Tavares every time he stick-handles through more than 2 skaters and Marner every time he passes on an open shot might be a start. :)

Not sure it's that weird. PK consists of 2 forwards and 2 defence (typically.) They have equal and important roles.

Malgin's goals were pretty.

Worst outcome, sure. Disaster? no. There will be good players willing to sign in Toronto.

Agreed it's not clear-cut, but I don't think it's that controversial to say having one of the best players in the league on your team will help the team be successful. I'd take one Marner over two Bertuzzis. Concerning success (addressing a previous post), it seems to be forgotten that the...

I think this narrative of "it's a disaster if we can't trade X player" should stop. It's not a disaster. He played, he was paid. That should be the expectation. Life will move on. Having him on the roster increases the chance of making and having success in the playoffs.

Indeed. That doesn't refute my point. "I believe" he'd prefer to stay followed with "everything ever said" supports what I said. My view is probably different as I'm in a licensed profession, but public interest means something quite different to me. There's no public interest in this...

He's consistently put up more points than Nylander while also getting Selke trophy nominations. He's got a solid argument that he deserves more.

herman's comments on posturing suggest that any of Marner's quotes are in service of posturing without any concession that they might be genuine on Marner's part.

Only one more year of Tavares's $11M cap hit though. So that percentage will drop. Keep Marner and figure out how/if to retain Tavares next year.

Can't you concede that what's being said is possibly true and that it's not just posturing?

11th in points over the last 3 years (7th in ppg), plays PK/PP, selke voting, 12th highest cap hit. 2nd straight season of 101-point pace. "barely" matches is a thinly veiled insult. His play/value clearly matches his cap hit. Go ahead and continue to be critical of his play, his fit, whether...

But why aren't we talking about trading Tavares instead? Panarin's playstyle seems to be doing just fine in the playoffs. No way he's getting the heat Marner is. My biggest complaint with Keefe -- whom I generally liked -- is that there was too much reacting to the other team and not enough...

Sorry, I was referring to the writer. I don't disagree. I'm all for valid criticism, it's just annoying when people use misleading stats as their evidence.