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It's kind of sad how nearly every thread in this place ends up degrading into a repetitive bitch-fest about Carlyle. 

There has to be something up with Del Zotto, maybe to do with off ice issues or something.  No way a guy like him goes from what he was a very short time ago to being dumped on the UFA market and still not signed.

a quote from McKeen's: "he does possess Patrick Kane like skill in his ability to control and dangle with the puck needing minimal space to unleash a quick and accurate wrist shot"

They are absolutely the examples to follow, without a doubt, but it doesn't have to just be about spending on UFA. It's spending any which way.  But still, this is drifting away from my point, which was IF you are going to go after a UFA, don't make money the #1 part of the equation. If it's a...

Well, one of those teams just went to the finals. So there's that.  The Flyers have missed the playoffs once in the last 7 years.  Landing and unloading Richards is a perfect example though. They got the big fish and when it's not working or they need the cap room they buy the guy out.  That's...

*points again to Philli's roster of the last... ever*

Ok and I'm not trying to nitpick that side of it... if you don't want the player, that is completely reasonable to me.  Just what I'm saying is it shouldn't be about the money, it should be about the player.. he either is the guy we need or he isn't.  Opinions obviously vary widely on Bolland...

I'm getting to the point where I really don't know why we obsess over the nickles and dimes of a contract, 4 years vs. 5 years, etc etc etc..  it's money.  Is it cap room? Yeah, but look at how many other huge market teams do far worse things with cap space and contract money and manage to be...

Deal!

Gee, a re-leak of a wild contract demand right when the negotiation window to all teams opens.. colour me shocked. Why not shoot for it? He's got this chance to see what comes rolling in and take it back to the Leafs (or Chicago, more likely, IMO) and see what their response is. For now...

That headline is click bait. Nothing more. Move on.

Take Mason Raymond of the 2nd PP unit and put Clarkson on in his place.  He will be back to producing points.  Boom. Done.  I'll let myself out.

It is high, but I'm not sure it's that far off. If I look at what contending teams are paying their #3 centre, they are definitely investing a lot in that job. Kings: Stoll: $3.25 mil Boston: Kelly: $3 mil SJ: Pavelski: $6 mil Ana: Cogliano: $3 mil Det: Weiss: $4.9 mil <- a recent UFA example...

Agreed, and to Potvin's point... get more what, exactly? More defensive two-way play? More points? More PK experience and ability? More shutdown role success?  Most of those things right now you can't say Holland is going to produce where Bolland would not. I think the opposite is true in...

I said it already but I'm totally betting he wants to talk to Chicago before he signs here, or anywhere else. 

He will get that money somewhere. I would almost guarantee it.  Only way I see him getting/taking less is to go back to CHI, which right now is what I have my money on.

The only way to completely conclude that is if you have no doubt in your mind that he is "done" as a player who can produce some reasonable points and basically is what he showed us last season. Plenty of UFA's struggle on their new team in the first year and combining it with his suspension...

Also, Clarkson will never ever again be able to contribute anything at any point in the next 6 years. It is completely impossible. No chance whatsoever.

ok so let's just play around for a second here with the notion this rumored stuff is actually true... it's possible that there could be proposed deals out there that include JVR which may bring the Leafs either a legit #1 centre or a true stud d-man.  If that was the case, I would be okay with...

I think Bozak was put on that list just to troll all the haters.