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Empirical proof like pulling stats out of my ass from some website? No just a history of it, although the age it seems is getting younger.

I think somewhere Paul Holmgrem is laughing in his best Dr Evil pose. If JVR is this star forward, why did he only get Luke Schenn for him? That's the part that baffles me.

So you are saying this knowing full well that defencemen take much longer to develop then forwards do? For a guy who could be the next Nik Antropov, erm, Mr Glass?

Not sure if I agree with your paint brushing here. Sure, we have some media here in Toronto who are out to get a response, to get their web hits, etc. I have to say I agree with Ken Campbell on this piece. I know you are old enough to remember the likes of Jim Benning, Luke Richardson, and...

Welcome aboard! So glad you are from the north. Won't be any snobbery then  :P I have an aunt from South Shields I think its called. Never been.

Fixed it for you  :P P.S. All in good fun England fans! At the end of the day, I don't really give a toss who wins this match.

Frank E, I think Burke is under tremendous pressure to do something big. We will have to see if this deal makes any sense.

I think the Leafs could have also at least received a third rounder in the deal.

Just to be clear. PKs to beat England in the quattros. I don't think anyone beats Germany, but you never know. Yes even Spain.

With that said, I wonder how much input Carlysle had in this trade. He had what, 20 games to see Schenn play and maybe told Burke he (Schenn) wasn't going to get out of his funk. But I agree 100% about the players around him and the old coach totally ruining his confidence.

I hope not. Trades are usually not made official until both players pass their physicals. If he can't play going further, we just give up a potential star who may have only needed a change of scenery.

Italy v Germany in semi-final 2. Italy in PK's to advance.

Not a natural centre but he can play all forward positions. But his health is what scares me to be honest.

Agreed. I guess you gotta give up something to get something.

Let's hope he can parlay this into getting a centre man.

I heard Brian Burke wouldn't allow it.  ::)

Have you sent them this question? Not trying to be an ass here, but wouldn't it be better to ask them and maybe they may do something about it?

You had a decent few points here I was going to repsond to but then you got personal.

So it's considered "negativity" if I don't like the way our GM is running the club? You don't like the fact he is getting a hard time. The man himself has said the failure is all on his shoulders.  I don't mind the Rielly pick. I am just saying we keep buying into what he is selling every year...

Sorry..this reads exactly like my shampoo bottle. Rinse . Repeat.. We keep hearing every summer to be patient, it's a long summer. It's also been a Long cold winter as well the last 8 years.  :-\