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Re: Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM
« Reply #315 on: July 10, 2018, 04:06:41 PM »
One has to wonder if it matters much at all for a team like the Leafs or Habs. They're sold out every home game already so there's no revenue increase there. I suppose they're more likely to draw a few extra tickets for away games, but they already do that to a fair degree so it would only be the net increase in sales.

A competitive team would allow the team to jack up the price of tickets, though, so I suppose that could increase revenue a bit. Merchandise sales probably isn't all that significant a fraction of total revenue.

TV contracts are already signed for the next x years. It's Sportsnet/TSN/US stations that will pocket the benefits of higher advertising revenue due to higher TV ratings.

I would tend to think it would be a small market teams who would help the most if their team was successful since a few thousand (or tens of thousands) of extra seat sales would significantly boost league revenue.
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« Reply #316 on: July 11, 2018, 08:26:10 AM »

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« Reply #317 on: July 11, 2018, 10:03:48 AM »
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/12/15/h-is-for-hockey-related-revenues/

This is great article regarding team finances. Since teams are privately held the financials are not readily available. Thankfully Forbes was able to do an estimation that calculated a total revenue close to the number Bettman stated therefore the Forbes data provides some reliable insight.

Read the article. It's clear the Leafs contribution is substantial according to the cumulative operating income chart.

As indicated in the article small market teams can't afford the floor. The profitable teams vs the non-profitable gap is to big to maintain current CBA conditions. I think the goal of parity and profitability (for everyone) will have to include either the players taking less percentage of hockey related revenues or the introduction of a soft cap/luxury tax system.
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« Reply #318 on: July 11, 2018, 10:41:49 AM »
Along these lines, how does playoff revenue feed back into the league revenue? Because the Leafs going deep into the playoffs is $$$$$...

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« Reply #319 on: July 11, 2018, 11:00:00 AM »
Along these lines, how does playoff revenue feed back into the league revenue? Because the Leafs going deep into the playoffs is $$$$$...
3 home games for the second round: $350 average per seat x 17,000 seats x 3 games = $17,850,000 moves the cap needle $287,903.23 (17.85M x 0.5 / 31). That's just tickets sales for round two.
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« Reply #320 on: July 11, 2018, 11:04:22 AM »
Along these lines, how does playoff revenue feed back into the league revenue? Because the Leafs going deep into the playoffs is $$$$$...
3 home games for the second round: $350 average per seat x 17,000 seats x 3 games = $17,850,000 moves the cap needle $287,903.23 (17.85M x 0.5 / 31). That's just tickets sales for round two.

Don't forget the Leafs would be replacing another team in this scenario.  Depends on the city, but I'd bet most teams still have an average ticket above $150 by the 2nd round.  A city like Boston (say we beat them out in the 1st round) probably has a $250 avg ticket for the 2nd round. 

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« Reply #321 on: July 11, 2018, 11:32:04 AM »
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/12/15/h-is-for-hockey-related-revenues/

This is great article regarding team finances. Since teams are privately held the financials are not readily available. Thankfully Forbes was able to do an estimation that calculated a total revenue close to the number Bettman stated therefore the Forbes data provides some reliable insight.

Read the article. It's clear the Leafs contribution is substantial according to the cumulative operating income chart.

As indicated in the article small market teams can't afford the floor. The profitable teams vs the non-profitable gap is to big to maintain current CBA conditions. I think the goal of parity and profitability (for everyone) will have to include either the players taking less percentage of hockey related revenues or the introduction of a soft cap/luxury tax system.

A hard cap system is complete BS anyway, as it ignores the fact that no matter what, you will have teams that are going to perform better or worse financially.

Sharing the revenue 50/50 is ok.  The big thing missing is the ability to buy, sell or trade cap space.  There was about $110 million in unused cap space at the end of last season.  If you gave the richer teams the ability to acquire that cap space for cash or picks or players, it would do a lot to help out the smaller market teams.   

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« Reply #322 on: July 11, 2018, 02:05:25 PM »
https://canucksarmy.com/2017/12/15/h-is-for-hockey-related-revenues/

This is great article regarding team finances. Since teams are privately held the financials are not readily available. Thankfully Forbes was able to do an estimation that calculated a total revenue close to the number Bettman stated therefore the Forbes data provides some reliable insight.

Read the article. It's clear the Leafs contribution is substantial according to the cumulative operating income chart.

As indicated in the article small market teams can't afford the floor. The profitable teams vs the non-profitable gap is to big to maintain current CBA conditions. I think the goal of parity and profitability (for everyone) will have to include either the players taking less percentage of hockey related revenues or the introduction of a soft cap/luxury tax system.

A hard cap system is complete BS anyway, as it ignores the fact that no matter what, you will have teams that are going to perform better or worse financially.

Sharing the revenue 50/50 is ok.  The big thing missing is the ability to buy, sell or trade cap space.  There was about $110 million in unused cap space at the end of last season.  If you gave the richer teams the ability to acquire that cap space for cash or picks or players, it would do a lot to help out the smaller market teams.   
Yup, the balance between parity and profitability for all probably doesn't exist. If the Leafs want to spend, I think we will be able to flex our financial muscle post CBA negotiations.
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Re: Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM
« Reply #323 on: July 11, 2018, 10:42:15 PM »

These two are former AGMs (Canes and Wild)
https://www.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/8y1x1i/comment/e27esi5

https://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2018/7/11/17533964/rick-olczyk-and-blair-mackasey-hired-as-pro-scouts-by-the-toronto-maple-leafs

Rick Olczyk also did a stint as Edmonton's cap guy, with a similar profile to Laurence Gilman.
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Re: Kyle Dubas is new Leafs GM
« Reply #325 on: July 25, 2018, 08:56:47 AM »
A couple promotions and a new minor (but in a way significant) hire to the nerd squad detailed here:

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« Reply #326 on: July 25, 2018, 09:35:23 AM »
If that is indeed Lauren Moriyama from Yale, that's a very sweet co-op gig.

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« Reply #327 on: July 25, 2018, 10:13:24 AM »
https://www.nhl.com/mapleleafs/team/management

Troy Brodie, Director Pro Scouting: Tim Leiweke favor? Troy married Tim's daughter.

Lauren Moriyama: Sweet gig for a kid.
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« Reply #328 on: July 25, 2018, 01:30:13 PM »

New scout:


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« Reply #329 on: July 25, 2018, 02:18:21 PM »
Roque is being poached from the Greyhounds, where he was originally hired by Dubas back in 2011. He spent 5 years with Kingston as a scout prior to that.

Grigori Shafigulin is a 33-year old, recently retired KHL journeyman. He was a 3rd round pick of the Preds in 2003 but never came over to North America. It seems like this will be his first gig as a scout, wonder what brought him to the Leafs specifically.

Olegs Koreskovs has an interested linkedin account. He also has some playing experience. He has some scouting experience. He has some coaching experience. He's also worked with Iceberg Sports Analytics for the past year. I've never heard of them but they're an analytics company based out of Toronto.

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