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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #90 on: February 09, 2018, 01:49:42 PM »
If Johnsson - Willy - Hyman is a line does that make your Matthews line Brown - Matthews - Kapanen?

JvR - Matthews - Kapanen sounds more fun, you joke ruiner, you.

Just imagine when we have Tavares as second line center.

Hyman-Matthews-Nylander
JVR(or his replacement)-Tavares-Kapanen
Marleau-Kadri-Marner
<insert 4th line here>


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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #91 on: February 09, 2018, 02:17:36 PM »
Its a very very deep draft too. I would be very loathe to part with our first and would much rather try to pick up another.

Deep draft... and a number of teams that would be buyers -- looking for more scoring, perhaps interested in a JvR -- have a forwards on Pronman's top 50 prospects list. Getting one of Kyrou (STL), Bean (CAR), Necas (CAR), Tolvanen (NSH), Kaprizov (MIN), etc. into the system might help replace JvR and Marleau in a few years...

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #92 on: February 09, 2018, 02:35:27 PM »
Its a very very deep draft too. I would be very loathe to part with our first and would much rather try to pick up another.

Deep draft... and a number of teams that would be buyers -- looking for more scoring, perhaps interested in a JvR -- have a forwards on Pronman's top 50 prospects list. Getting one of Kyrou (STL), Bean (CAR), Necas (CAR), Tolvanen (NSH), Kaprizov (MIN), etc. into the system might help replace JvR and Marleau in a few years...

I like NSH and MIN as potential trade partners as they're always looking for high end scoring and generally have defensively reliable options.

JvR to NYI tickles me a bit too. Something like... JvR (retained salary) + Martin for one of their firsts or Ho-Sang/Bellows + eating Kulemin's contract (can we inflate our LTIR room?)

Edit: Snow said he won't be trading Tavares or his 2 1sts for rentals.
a) Unless it's Benning, no one believes what GMs say out loud to the press
b) NYI gets to turn a broken Kulemin into a scoring threat in JvR and gets back a fan favourite in Martin in a make or break season with their franchise centre for the price of a high pick or prospect
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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #93 on: February 09, 2018, 03:23:52 PM »
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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #94 on: February 09, 2018, 03:37:29 PM »
Mirtle makes the case for selling in the Athletic:


Mirtle also makes the case for buying

https://theathletic.com/235821/2018/02/09/mirtle-why-the-maple-leafs-should-be-buyers-at-the-trade-deadline/

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #95 on: February 09, 2018, 04:06:59 PM »
Mirtle makes the case for selling in the Athletic:


Mirtle also makes the case for buying

https://theathletic.com/235821/2018/02/09/mirtle-why-the-maple-leafs-should-be-buyers-at-the-trade-deadline/

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@The Athletic Id add a third option: sell and buy. Move out Komarov, Bozak, Polak, Martin, Sosh, hell even Hainsey or JVR. Then go all in for a McDonagh/OEL type and maybe someone like Plekanec. A bit like @JeffVeillettes extremist approach.

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Youll have to pay a bit in prospects/picks to make those upgrades and there are a lot of moving parts but you add by addition and subtraction.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #96 on: February 09, 2018, 04:23:03 PM »
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@The Athletic Id add a third option: sell and buy. Move out Komarov, Bozak, Polak, Martin, Sosh, hell even Hainsey or JVR. Then go all in for a McDonagh/OEL type and maybe someone like Plekanec. A bit like @JeffVeillettes extremist approach.

@67sound
Youll have to pay a bit in prospects/picks to make those upgrades and there are a lot of moving parts but you add by addition and subtraction.

That would be so fun

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #97 on: February 09, 2018, 04:35:01 PM »
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@67sound
@The Athletic Id add a third option: sell and buy. Move out Komarov, Bozak, Polak, Martin, Sosh, hell even Hainsey or JVR. Then go all in for a McDonagh/OEL type and maybe someone like Plekanec. A bit like @JeffVeillettes extremist approach.

@67sound
Youll have to pay a bit in prospects/picks to make those upgrades and there are a lot of moving parts but you add by addition and subtraction.

That would be so fun

#CavsMode

It would destroy the dressing room and probably thereby ruin any chances for playoff success this year, but it would be interesting in terms of pixel generation on this board and Across the Universe.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #98 on: February 09, 2018, 04:44:39 PM »
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@67sound
@The Athletic Id add a third option: sell and buy. Move out Komarov, Bozak, Polak, Martin, Sosh, hell even Hainsey or JVR. Then go all in for a McDonagh/OEL type and maybe someone like Plekanec. A bit like @JeffVeillettes extremist approach.

@67sound
Youll have to pay a bit in prospects/picks to make those upgrades and there are a lot of moving parts but you add by addition and subtraction.

That would be so fun

#CavsMode

It would destroy the dressing room and probably thereby ruin any chances for playoff success this year, but it would be interesting in terms of pixel generation on this board and Across the Universe.

There would be an adjustment, but if you bring in real quality that makes the team more talented I think the room would adapt. Players love playing on a good team. The names suggested have been in the League long enough that playing a Babcock style would not be totally foreign to them, allowing them to have on ice success potentially quickly.

If you can move out all the expiring UFA's and fringe pieces and turn that return into one or two real impact players that would be pretty amazing. It's all wishful thinking, but fun nonetheless.

You could create a hole for a guy like Johnsson to step into, he's really ready.

Johnsson-Aaltonen-Kapanen was the best line in the AHL by a distance.

I feel like this could be an opportunity to do what Tampa did a few years ago and begin flooding the team with excelling AHL prospects.
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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #99 on: February 09, 2018, 05:11:23 PM »
You could create a hole for a guy like Johnsson to step into, he's really ready.

Johnsson-Aaltonen-Kapanen was the best line in the AHL by a distance.

I feel like this could be an opportunity to do what Tampa did a few years ago and begin flooding the team with excelling AHL prospects.

This would be great. Tampa had the benefit of their AHL coach behind the NHL bench at that time, so the trust was already there and they got the leash to augment the core. Babcock claims to not know what the Marlies are like and wants them to break through the veteran stopgaps to earn the spots when those chances come up. I don't think we'll get to see the trade deadline roster gifts the way we saw in the Tank season anytime soon.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #100 on: February 10, 2018, 11:50:21 AM »

It takes them awhile but they eventually get to the conclusion I prefer every year:
Sell only what brings in a good deal makes the team better either on the ice now or opens options down the road.

Nothing needs to be forced except shedding one roster spot when Sosh is back tonight, and opening up contract room if possible.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #101 on: February 10, 2018, 03:58:01 PM »
Coming soon to a Leafs lineup:
Johnsson - Willy - Hyman
Ha Ha Ha, reminds me of when the Jays had Dickie, Johnson and Wang in their rotation.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #102 on: February 10, 2018, 10:16:55 PM »
Coming soon to a Leafs lineup:
Johnsson - Willy - Hyman
Ha Ha Ha, reminds me of when the Jays had Dickie, Johnson and Wang in their rotation.

Bless you.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #103 on: February 10, 2018, 10:18:11 PM »

Not unexpected. But Im reading it more as a dare to the other teams to see if theyd ante up.

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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2018, 10:20:36 PM »

Not unexpected. But Im reading it more as a dare to the other teams to see if theyd ante up.
I'm starting to think we keep him on a sweetheart deal...
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Re: Trade Deadline
« Reply #104 on: February 10, 2018, 10:20:36 PM »