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Offline lamajama

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Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« on: July 14, 2011, 12:54:49 PM »
A mis-trial has been declared in the Roger Clemens trial

http://tsn.ca/mlb/story/?id=371713

Two scenarios:

#1 - Prosecutors were looking for a way out and threw the game

#2 - They are incredible idiots.

I vote for 90% #1 and 10% #2
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Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2011, 01:18:44 PM »
I vote #1 as well.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2011, 01:26:27 PM »
Interesting. On the radio, Stellick paraphrased the judge as saying this is something that is beneath first year law students. A couple people have already suggested conspiracy theories and whether or not double jeopardy would come into play here.

Interesting times ahead.

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2011, 01:45:07 PM »
Is double jeopardy valid with a mistrial? I though it was only once the case has been seen through...

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #4 on: July 14, 2011, 01:49:48 PM »
Is double jeopardy valid with a mistrial? I though it was only once the case has been seen through...

I don't believe it is. While you can't be tried twice for the same action, I'm pretty sure the first trial has to reach a verdict before it can count against that.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #5 on: July 14, 2011, 02:07:51 PM »
Is double jeopardy valid with a mistrial? I though it was only once the case has been seen through...

I don't believe it is. While you can't be tried twice for the same action, I'm pretty sure the first trial has to reach a verdict before it can count against that.

That's what I thought too. Stellick mentioned it at lunch (not that he is a lawyer) and I thought I would ask. It would seem like a pretty stupid thing.

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2011, 05:03:00 PM »
I think his defense team is on steroids.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2011, 05:18:38 PM »
To be honest, it's stupid that the government is wasting their time going after Bonds/Clemens, etc.  The whole 'speak in front of Congress' was a political farce meant to further re-election bids.

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2011, 05:22:14 PM »
To be honest, it's stupid that the government is wasting their time going after Bonds/Clemens, etc.  The whole 'speak in front of Congress' was a political farce meant to further re-election bids.

Yeah, you'd think they have enough dirty politicians to fry instead.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2011, 05:49:12 PM »
I can only assume the prosecution misremembered the judges instructions..... hey, wouldnt that be grounds for appeal?

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2011, 09:37:25 PM »
Since when did sporty spice care?


... never mind, it's me that doesn't ( no offence to the OP )
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #11 on: July 14, 2011, 10:06:00 PM »
To be honest, it's stupid that the government is wasting their time going after Bonds/Clemens, etc.  The whole 'speak in front of Congress' was a political farce meant to further re-election bids.

The congressional hearings were stupid no doubt.

But lying to congress was more stupid and these guys deserve to convicted of perjury.

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2011, 12:20:21 PM »
To be honest, it's stupid that the government is wasting their time going after Bonds/Clemens, etc.  The whole 'speak in front of Congress' was a political farce meant to further re-election bids.

The congressional hearings were stupid no doubt.

But lying to congress was more stupid and these guys deserve to convicted of perjury.

They can just play their baseball immunity card.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2011, 01:29:10 PM »
To be honest, it's stupid that the government is wasting their time going after Bonds/Clemens, etc.  The whole 'speak in front of Congress' was a political farce meant to further re-election bids.

Yeah, you'd think they have enough dirty politicians to fry instead.

Oh they do. This is designed as a distraction otherwise they have to go after their own.
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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2011, 11:18:28 AM »
Good for Clemens. I hate it when Stars have amazing careers then they are blemished by some sort of implications...

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Re: Roger Clemens Mis-Trial declared
« Reply #14 on: July 16, 2011, 11:18:28 AM »