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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
« Reply #465 on: December 05, 2017, 04:52:24 PM »
haha saw that too Herman. If he had twins at 18 Patty certainly is old enough to be their father.


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« Reply #466 on: December 05, 2017, 05:45:27 PM »
Matthews jokes hes got four kids at home and two on the road

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

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« Reply #467 on: December 05, 2017, 06:12:13 PM »
Matthews jokes hes got four kids at home and two on the road

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.


It's supposed to stand for  "How About You" (?), or something thereof, similar to "How (a)Bout yoU"?


https://www.internetslang.com/HBU-meaning-definition.asp
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« Reply #468 on: December 05, 2017, 10:02:17 PM »
Matthews jokes hes got four kids at home and two on the road

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.

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« Reply #469 on: December 05, 2017, 10:27:39 PM »
Matthews jokes hes got four kids at home and two on the road

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.

Well duh, thanks BB -- you're right, I got it exactly backwards.

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« Reply #470 on: December 05, 2017, 11:50:36 PM »

This is what Ive been looking for.

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« Reply #471 on: December 06, 2017, 08:51:34 AM »
Matthews jokes hes got four kids at home and two on the road

I assume she meant Marleau.

Also happy to admit I don't know what HBU means either.

I took it as Matthews joking that Marleau has 4 at home 2 on the road.

I had to Google HBU.


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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
« Reply #473 on: December 06, 2017, 09:56:21 AM »

This is what Ive been looking for.

A few comments:

1.  In the replies, Tulloch says only 11 of the Leafs games were tracked so it doesn't cover the entire season so far.
2.  Connor Brown seems to be moving towards "balanced" instead of "dependent"
3.  Morgan Rielly looks really elite offensively.  I went to check how he is league-wide:  He's first!

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« Reply #474 on: December 08, 2017, 11:01:03 AM »

Topical!

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« Reply #475 on: December 08, 2017, 11:11:22 AM »
Can that be right on Martin?

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« Reply #476 on: December 08, 2017, 11:16:46 AM »
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)



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« Reply #477 on: December 08, 2017, 11:27:37 AM »
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)

Yeah, I knew he had big numbers, I just didn't think they were 4-5 times others' in the cluster.

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« Reply #478 on: December 08, 2017, 11:53:16 AM »
Can that be right on Martin?

Hits Leaders since 2013:

Martin 1476
Clutterbuck  1130
Reaves 1019

He's been a league leader in hits for many years- and he does it with limited ice-time. 

(NOTE:  Above data is 5v5 only.  Any situations, Luke Schenn and Lucic jump over Reaves but still are barely over 1020.  With a lot more ice time)

Yeah, I knew he had big numbers, I just didn't think they were 4-5 times others' in the cluster.

The amount of hits he throws is more impressive when you look at some data.  I used corsica to get this information from 2013-2014 until today, all situations, and limited to players playing 2000+ mins, gives 583 players (so just about 18 players per team).  I think that is a good sample of how he does compared to the entire league.

Hits/60 mins: 
1st:  Martin 24.74
2nd:  Reaves 23.08
3rd:  Glass 19.72
...
15th:  Marcus Foligno 12.41   <-  Twice as many hits per 60 as the 15th best hitter in the league over that span.
293rd:  Drew Doughty 3.88    <-  More than SIX times the number of hits per 60 of guys near the league median!!!


Don't get me wrong-  some of the best players in the league are near the bottom of the list of amount of hits or hits/60.  It usually means you don't have the puck.  But man, there are a heck of a lot of guys who don't have the puck much in this league and they aren't making the opposition pay anywhere near as much as Martin is. 

I think people only think of Martin as a fighter too often.  Yes, he can do that.  But he does other things well too and isn't out of place in this league.  Really, his contract is the toughest pill to swallow.  Next is the Leafs have better players sitting out games so he can play every night, but, I'm less concerned about that than most because he's not terrible.
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Re: 2017-18 Toronto Maple Leafs - General Discussion
« Reply #479 on: December 08, 2017, 11:57:49 AM »
What I like about Martins hitting is how cleanly he does it too.

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