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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #120 on: August 30, 2016, 09:41:10 AM »
Which is funny because, that was one of the things that has haunted the Oilers the last couple of years.  However, the Panthers have found a way to overcome it, and the Oilers, well they traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson.

The Panthers were essentially built through 4 drafts. In 2010 and 2011 they had lottery selections that didn't produce elite talent (Gudbranson, Huberdeau) and a boatloat of top-90 selections that produced regular NHLers (Trotchek, Shaw, Bjugstad, Howden, Petrovic). Then 2013 and 2014 was like the opposite, those lottery selections did produce elite talent (Barkov, Ekblad) but possibly nothing after that.

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« Reply #121 on: August 30, 2016, 09:51:47 AM »
Which is funny because, that was one of the things that has haunted the Oilers the last couple of years.  However, the Panthers have found a way to overcome it, and the Oilers, well they traded Taylor Hall for Adam Larsson.

The Panthers were essentially built through 4 drafts. In 2010 and 2011 they had lottery selections that didn't produce elite talent (Gudbranson, Huberdeau) and a boatloat of top-90 selections that produced regular NHLers (Trotchek, Shaw, Bjugstad, Howden, Petrovic). Then 2013 and 2014 was like the opposite, those lottery selections did produce elite talent (Barkov, Ekblad) but possibly nothing after that.

Perhaps the Leafs are following a similar pattern.  C'Mon 1st pairing d-man next year.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #122 on: August 30, 2016, 10:25:25 AM »

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« Reply #123 on: August 30, 2016, 10:49:23 AM »
Well that article got me a little more excited about Zaitsev than I've been before. He's that good, huh?

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« Reply #124 on: August 30, 2016, 11:57:55 AM »
Well that article got me a little more excited about Zaitsev than I've been before. He's that good, huh?

RH Gardiner eh?

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« Reply #125 on: August 30, 2016, 12:28:58 PM »
Since I'm a fan of Gardiner:

Yay!

It's going to be a lot of fun watching this team play this year.

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« Reply #126 on: August 30, 2016, 01:55:54 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!

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« Reply #127 on: August 30, 2016, 02:11:29 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!

Ha ha. This guy is nothing more than trivia. The comments in the reddit feed were pretty funny, though.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #128 on: August 30, 2016, 02:13:11 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #129 on: August 30, 2016, 08:03:06 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!

Pronman clearly knows nothing.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #130 on: August 30, 2016, 08:29:09 PM »
Watching some Zaitsev highlights, it seems his success or sweet spot comes with an inside game, nice, hopefully that helps shorten the learning curve coming over. He looks good.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #131 on: August 31, 2016, 10:15:12 AM »
PPP: 8. Martin Marincin
TLN: 3. William Nylander

Well well well, looks like TLN is pretty convinced by Marner's D+1 season (all the awards!), over Nylander's consistent elite production playing in men's leagues.

And good job on PPP for ranking Carrick and Zaitsev over Marincin and Kapanen.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #132 on: August 31, 2016, 01:00:27 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!

Pronman clearly knows nothing.

I find it bizarre some of the comments trying to justify Strome's higher ranking to Marners when Marner had the best season of any CHLer.
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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #133 on: August 31, 2016, 01:06:11 PM »
This is fun: Pronman's top 120 Prospects ranked
https://m.reddit.com/r/leafs/comments/50bly0/pronman_top_120_prospects_ranked/

Guess who is #1!

Pronman clearly knows nothing.

I find it bizarre some of the comments trying to justify Strome's higher ranking to Marners when Marner had the best season of any CHLer.

1.  Strome had a pretty terrific season himself, and he didn't have the linemates Marner had.

2.  Having the best season in the CHL is no guarantee of anything.... see:  Corey Locke

That said, I'd still rather have Marner over Strome.  Though, it helps that we have Matthews as our #1 center of the future.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2016, 01:18:57 PM »
1.  Strome had a pretty terrific season himself, and he didn't have the linemates Marner had.

2.  Having the best season in the CHL is no guarantee of anything.... see:  Corey Locke

That said, I'd still rather have Marner over Strome.  Though, it helps that we have Matthews as our #1 center of the future.

Yeah, I don't really have a problem with that ranking. 1.98 vs 2.03 for their PPG's this season. Not a massive difference, although Marner's post-season play was much more impressive. I'm a little more surprised that he has Keller over Nylander, especially since Pronman has always been one of Nylander's biggest fans.

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Re: Ranking Prospects Post-Matthews
« Reply #134 on: August 31, 2016, 01:18:57 PM »