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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #150 on: August 04, 2016, 11:04:59 PM »
Happ leads the AL in wins and 6th in the AL in era

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« Reply #151 on: August 04, 2016, 11:47:41 PM »
Happ leads the AL in wins and 6th in the AL in era

And Happ has probably been the 3rd best pitcher on the staff so far this year.

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« Reply #152 on: August 05, 2016, 05:28:42 AM »
As usual you guys completely ignore my post when I am not only completely right but the rest of you are out to lunch. I guess this is a hockey board after all.

I don't get it, did anybody disagree with or belittle your suggestion? You're just mad because nobody immediately responded? Wow.

And yes, this literally is a hockey board, what did you think TML stood for??

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« Reply #153 on: August 05, 2016, 06:18:11 AM »
Holy cow, Atkins is on his way to Houston to discuss the Sanchez situation with the Blue Jays coaching staff and Sanchez himself!  I hope they can sort this out in a way that it doesn't negatively affect the clubhouse.  I personally don't understand why they don't go to a 6 man rotation and then put Sanchez into the bullpen once the playoffs start.  What if the Jays are in the wild card game?  Don't you want Sanchez starting that game?


The six man rotation it will be:  Stroman, Dixkey, Estrada, Happ, Liriano, Sanchez.

Atkins had this to say on the situation.

"What I think is the most likely scenario is that he stays in the rotation for some time to come," Atkins told reporters in Houston prior to Toronto's series finale with the Astros.

"I think what changed for us, a couple of things: input from more people, one of those people being Francisco Liriano, who was open to anything and everything," Atkins said. "That opened things up for us to think about things differently. And then talking to Aaron about it and how strongly he felt about staying in the rotation, that fortunately we're in a situation where we're able to do it."

"I think what we're going to do is really try to work with Aaron to give this team the best chance to win," Atkins said. "We do have thresholds that would be uncomfortable. There's not a scenario where he pitches 220, 230 innings.

"He's going to go into a territory that's uncomfortable and uncommon and he's comfortable with that. We've worked together on what that range or territory should be but there's so many variables that will contribute to what's best for him and this team."



http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/aaron-sanchez-staying-rotation-6-starters-1.3708113

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« Reply #154 on: August 05, 2016, 08:07:08 AM »
As usual you guys completely ignore my post when I am not only completely right but the rest of you are out to lunch. I guess this is a hockey board after all.


Hey man you can run the damn boards as far as I am concerned. That was the funniest thing I have seen all day.

Just trying to lighten the mood.  ;)

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« Reply #155 on: August 05, 2016, 08:21:07 AM »
Holy cow, Atkins is on his way to Houston to discuss the Sanchez situation with the Blue Jays coaching staff and Sanchez himself!  I hope they can sort this out in a way that it doesn't negatively affect the clubhouse.  I personally don't understand why they don't go to a 6 man rotation and then put Sanchez into the bullpen once the playoffs start.  What if the Jays are in the wild card game?  Don't you want Sanchez starting that game?


The six man rotation it will be:  Stroman, Dixkey, Estrada, Happ, Liriano, Sanchez.

Atkins had this to say on the situation.

"What I think is the most likely scenario is that he stays in the rotation for some time to come," Atkins told reporters in Houston prior to Toronto's series finale with the Astros.

"I think what changed for us, a couple of things: input from more people, one of those people being Francisco Liriano, who was open to anything and everything," Atkins said. "That opened things up for us to think about things differently. And then talking to Aaron about it and how strongly he felt about staying in the rotation, that fortunately we're in a situation where we're able to do it."

"I think what we're going to do is really try to work with Aaron to give this team the best chance to win," Atkins said. "We do have thresholds that would be uncomfortable. There's not a scenario where he pitches 220, 230 innings.

"He's going to go into a territory that's uncomfortable and uncommon and he's comfortable with that. We've worked together on what that range or territory should be but there's so many variables that will contribute to what's best for him and this team."



http://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/aaron-sanchez-staying-rotation-6-starters-1.3708113

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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #156 on: August 05, 2016, 09:36:29 AM »
As usual you guys completely ignore my post when I am not only completely right but the rest of you are out to lunch. I guess this is a hockey board after all.

I don't get it, did anybody disagree with or belittle your suggestion? You're just mad because nobody immediately responded? Wow.

And yes, this literally is a hockey board, what did you think TML stood for??
I'm just frustrated.  There are several of the know-it-all types on here.  They constantly talk down everyone else and they carry on with this huge air of arrogance.  Their opinions are no more valid than anyone else's.  This place has never been very welcoming and the same people have been ruining the boards for years.

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« Reply #157 on: August 05, 2016, 11:18:44 AM »
As usual you guys completely ignore my post when I am not only completely right but the rest of you are out to lunch. I guess this is a hockey board after all.

I don't get it, did anybody disagree with or belittle your suggestion? You're just mad because nobody immediately responded? Wow.

And yes, this literally is a hockey board, what did you think TML stood for??
I'm just frustrated. There are several of the know-it-all types on here.  They constantly talk down everyone else and they carry on with this huge air of arrogance.  Their opinions are no more valid than anyone else's.  This place has never been very welcoming and the same people have been ruining the boards for years.

In your first post in question you state that you are completely right and the rest of the posters are "out to lunch" while in this most recent post you are lamenting/complaining that the board contains several "know-it-all types" who talk down/carry a huge air of arrogance.  How would saying you are completely right and everyone else is out to lunch not also be considered behaviour of someone thinking they "know-it-all" and talking down to other posters?

I think almost everyone here can be guilty of it from time to time, of coming off harshly, but it would seem hypocritical to complain about something that it could be argued you have done within this thread.

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« Reply #158 on: August 05, 2016, 04:50:21 PM »
As usual you guys completely ignore my post when I am not only completely right but the rest of you are out to lunch. I guess this is a hockey board after all.

I don't get it, did anybody disagree with or belittle your suggestion? You're just mad because nobody immediately responded? Wow.

And yes, this literally is a hockey board, what did you think TML stood for??
I'm just frustrated. There are several of the know-it-all types on here.  They constantly talk down everyone else and they carry on with this huge air of arrogance.  Their opinions are no more valid than anyone else's.  This place has never been very welcoming and the same people have been ruining the boards for years.

In your first post in question you state that you are completely right and the rest of the posters are "out to lunch" while in this most recent post you are lamenting/complaining that the board contains several "know-it-all types" who talk down/carry a huge air of arrogance.  How would saying you are completely right and everyone else is out to lunch not also be considered behaviour of someone thinking they "know-it-all" and talking down to other posters?

I think almost everyone here can be guilty of it from time to time, of coming off harshly, but it would seem hypocritical to complain about something that it could be argued you have done within this thread.
I'm only posting like that in response to all the arrogant nonsense on here. This forum breeds a culture of it. I said it to make a point.

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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #159 on: August 05, 2016, 06:07:51 PM »
Greetings, friends. I, for one, do not feel that this forum is arrogant. I appreciate the nearly scholarly effort some people put into helping people like me understand the game of hockey (and the world at large).

And now, kindling for what is turning into a semi-annual flame out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

More on topic: 6-man rotation = more rest for Estrada (or whoever else might need it)? I don't know. They can do whatever they want. I'm still bemoaning the missed opportunity to have a rotation of Syndergaard, Sanchez, Stroman.

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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #160 on: August 06, 2016, 12:33:54 PM »
Blue Jays' starting pitchers so far rank first in the A.L. In ERA, WHIP, & WAR.

Also, the Jays have accumulated a 41-23 w/l record since May 19 -- the best in the American League.


Source:  SportsnetCentral
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Re: Jays Roster Discussion
« Reply #161 on: August 06, 2016, 09:55:31 PM »
I have a very strong dislike of smoak.

And Upton... Dude just swings 3 times and sits down.

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« Reply #162 on: August 06, 2016, 10:24:49 PM »
Greetings, friends. I, for one, do not feel that this forum is arrogant. I appreciate the nearly scholarly effort some people put into helping people like me understand the game of hockey (and the world at large).

And now, kindling for what is turning into a semi-annual flame out.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychological_projection

More on topic: 6-man rotation = more rest for Estrada (or whoever else might need it)? I don't know. They can do whatever they want. I'm still bemoaning the missed opportunity to have a rotation of Syndergaard, Sanchez, Stroman.
What you're going to psychoanalyze me?  F that.  I say we take a look inside Herman's head...


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« Reply #163 on: August 06, 2016, 11:47:17 PM »
I have a very strong dislike of smoak.

And Upton... Dude just swings 3 times and sits down.

Smoak's extension is baffling to me.  He's 29 and is coming off a career best .768 OPS season as a 1B/DH only player.  He can't hit offspeed pitches at all.  Smoak is what he is.  Certainly not a guy who needed a 2-year extension. 

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« Reply #164 on: August 07, 2016, 10:47:17 AM »
I have a very strong dislike of smoak.

And Upton... Dude just swings 3 times and sits down.

Smoak's extension is baffling to me.  He's 29 and is coming off a career best .768 OPS season as a 1B/DH only player.  He can't hit offspeed pitches at all.  Smoak is what he is.  Certainly not a guy who needed a 2-year extension.
At $4 million per season I'm ok with his extension.  Encarnacion is not durable enough to play first base every day and Smoak is better than him defensively.  Smoak saved the game the other day actually with a nice dig at first base at the end of the game.

There is also the fact that Edwin may walk.  Now at least we have Smoak.

I'm not saying I like him either but the price is right and he's an ok fill in until they can find someone better in the event that Edwin walks.  He's going to earn a massive contract.  He's on pace for 50+ home runs and something like 140RBI.

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« Reply #164 on: August 07, 2016, 10:47:17 AM »