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Title: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 17, 2019, 12:26:03 PM

Well, that time of year and everything. Pitchers and Catchers reporting. Stroman upset about something.

Here's their Spring Training Schedule:

http://www.espn.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/tor (http://www.espn.com/mlb/team/schedule/_/name/tor)

And to start things off with a medium hot take that allows me to criticize the current management instead of defending it: while I understand the strategic argument for doing it, I think the team is wrong with their plans for Vladdy Jr., the extra year of cheap baseball is not worth bumming out what already figures to be a depressed fan base.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Joe S. on February 17, 2019, 09:41:17 PM
I dont have a strong opinion on this one way or another, but isnt something like the first 15 days hell have to spend in triple A and the jays get an extra year if control? That doesnt seem like that much of a punishment to Vlad or the fans...

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2019, 04:57:25 AM
I dont have a strong opinion on this one way or another, but isnt something like the first 15 days hell have to spend in triple A and the jays get an extra year if control? That doesnt seem like that much of a punishment to Vlad or the fans...

Am I missing something?

It's actually 3 weeks but yea, essentially it's just how you put it. If he starts the season on the MLB roster then the Jays lose a year of control. It really makes no sense to give up that year for, what, an extra 3 weeks of Guerrero on a bad Jays team? Ultimately I'd argue that it's eventually a decision that works for the fans, not against them.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 18, 2019, 06:03:03 AM

Why would Jays fans be worried about a year of control when Rogers has said that they'll spend money on the team when the time is right? If the money is there to sign Vladdy when/if he demands big free agent money why do we care if it's 5 or 6 years from now?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on February 18, 2019, 06:25:01 AM
Leave it to Stroman to say a mouthful:

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...I can tell you one thing, theres no one that embodies or loves pitching for the city of Toronto or the country of Canada more than me, nor will you ever find them ... Thats raw passion, emotion, thats real.

Of course, of course.

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I think its pretty sad that the games losing the ability to put these veteran presences in clubhouses because I dont think that people understand how valuable having those guys in the game are. I would have never been the pitcher I am today if I didnt have the likes of Mark Buehrle, LaTroy Hawkins, Casey Janssen, Josh Donaldson, Troy Tulowitzki, Jose Bautista, Edwin Encarnacion, Melky Cabrera ...

Very true.

See Stromans views here:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/bluejays/2019/02/17/marcus-stroman-talks-about-bouncing-back-being-a-blue-jay-and-competing-in-boston-and-the-bronx.html
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2019, 07:23:57 AM

Why would Jays fans be worried about a year of control when Rogers has said that they'll spend money on the team when the time is right? If the money is there to sign Vladdy when/if he demands big free agent money why do we care if it's 5 or 6 years from now?

If all it takes is literally 3 weeks to gain a full extra year of control, why would you give it up, regardless of how much money there, potentially, is?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 18, 2019, 07:28:31 AM
If all it takes is literally 3 weeks to gain a full extra year of control, why would you give it up, regardless of how much money there, potentially, is?

Me as a fan or me as a hypothetical GM?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2019, 07:45:48 AM
If all it takes is literally 3 weeks to gain a full extra year of control, why would you give it up, regardless of how much money there, potentially, is?

Me as a fan or me as a hypothetical GM?

It's rhetorical, so you can be whoever you want in the proposed role-play. I'm not sure how it changes things. As a fan I realize that this team has punted the season and thus should not waste a year of control for absolutely no reason.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 18, 2019, 07:56:53 AM
It's rhetorical, so you can be whoever you want in the proposed role-play. I'm not sure how it changes things. As a fan I realize that this team has punted the season and thus should not waste a year of control for absolutely no reason.

I'm not trying to be argumentative, I think it's an important delineation. As a  fan, I don't have contractual control. They could trade him tomorrow and as a fan all I could do is hope they got a good return.

As a fan, my only interest is in the Jays winning games and eventually a championship and I don't see how this helps that provided they're willing to pay him appropriately when they need to, regardless of when that is.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 18, 2019, 11:47:24 AM
From a business standpoint its good business to hold onto Vlad for the extra year. As three weeks in a lifetime is next to nothing what do we care if he is not in the lineup for 3 weeks when we get an extra year.
Strobro is another example of not letting his agent take care of business.  He is as good as gone now. I guess he should go to Seattle as the Skyneedle sort of resembles the CN tower tattooed on his frame.
Loose lips since ships.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 18, 2019, 12:18:02 PM
From a business standpoint its good business to hold onto Vlad for the extra year.

Ok. I don't care about Rogers and their bottom line. Especially not in a season where they're going to expect fans to pay full price to see a team that they have no interest in investing in. The day I cheer on their good business decision is the day they pass on that money to me.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on February 18, 2019, 12:35:32 PM
It's rhetorical, so you can be whoever you want in the proposed role-play. I'm not sure how it changes things. As a fan I realize that this team has punted the season and thus should not waste a year of control for absolutely no reason.



As a fan, my only interest is in the Jays winning games and eventually a championship and I don't see how this helps that provided they're willing to pay him appropriately when they need to, regardless of when that is.

The sticking point for me is the 3 weeks. Now if his service time manipulation consisted of an extended minor league stay of, say, 3 months (or longer) then I'd probably agree with you. The fact that it only takes 3 weeks to ensure an extra year of control makes this, imo, pretty much a non-issue.

And further to that point, what if Vlad doesn't want to re-sign in five years? That extra year of control certainly wouldn't hurt.


Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 18, 2019, 12:54:03 PM
The sticking point for me is the 3 weeks. Now if his service time manipulation consisted of an extended minor league stay of, say, 3 months (or longer) then I'd probably agree with you. The fact that it only takes 3 weeks to ensure an extra year of control makes this, imo, pretty much a non-issue.

It's certainly not a matter or life and death, I just think they're making the wrong call in how it relates to a fanbase that they're already going to be asking to bear with them for a while.

And further to that point, what if Vlad doesn't want to re-sign in five years? That extra year of control certainly wouldn't hurt.

That seems to me to be such a defeatist attitude that, if it really factored in, would strike me as being the result of a pretty gutless bunch. But even then, all it would do would accelerate things by a year.

And just as legitimately, I could say that by delaying his payday a year you might risk him deciding that if the team is going to bloodlessly treat him like just an asset to be managed, that he might as well get to free agency and test the market to make sure that when his payday comes it's as big as can be.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: L K on February 19, 2019, 09:24:43 AM
To me it actually goes the other way.  If he was 3 months away from a season of control you can legitimately sell the argument that you want him in AAA to work on his defense at 3B. 
3 weeks the only justification for demoting him is team control. 

The organization has come out and said that money was not going to be a factor for this organization  moving forward.  If that is the case the extra year of control shouldn't matter.  It's abundantly clear that in a just world the guy would have been playing in the majors last year let alone in May.  His bat was too good for the minors.  If Brandon Drury breaks camp as the starting 3B coming off his sizzling .169 AVG and Vlad tears the cover off the ball, that looks awful.  I think you risk pissing Vlad's camp off more in that scenario that could have every bit the carry forward animosity between the two camps.

The Blue Jays on field team is projected to be 67.5M by payroll (with them also eating 38.5M for players to play for other teams).  Ticket prices went up/stayed the same in most aspects. 

Season ticket sales are drastically lower.  I think the goodwill of Vlad being in the lineup probably provides more for the fanbase than the extra year of control.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on February 19, 2019, 09:48:28 AM
Personally I don't think there's even an argument to sell. He's obviously ready now but he's being sent down for 3 weeks to regain an extra year of control.

And hey, I'm in agreement about Rogers and the ticket prices/payroll. There is no excuse for raising ticket prices in any capacity. I for one would easily prefer lower prices and waiting 3 weeks to see Vlad as opposed to higher prices but Vlad starting the season in the MLB. That would have made a nice compromise, actually.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Deebo on February 19, 2019, 10:03:43 AM
Season ticket sales are drastically lower.  I think the goodwill of Vlad being in the lineup probably provides more for the fanbase than the extra year of control.

Even if that goodwill is only delayed for 7-8 home games?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 10:20:26 AM
Season ticket sales are drastically lower.  I think the goodwill of Vlad being in the lineup probably provides more for the fanbase than the extra year of control.

Even if that goodwill is only delayed for 7-8 home games?

I don't actually think the amount of time/number of games matters much. It's hanging a big sign on the front door that says you're not worried about the outcome of the season if you're willing to lose even a single game to this.

Which is fair enough if that's the strategy given the way the league rewards failure but I absolutely think it's fine for fans, after being told not to care about the season, to check out until they can even pretend that they might be watching a winning ballclub.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Dappleganger on February 19, 2019, 10:30:45 AM
There's no team, in any situation, in all of Baseball, that would be doing anything different with Vlad Jr's service time. It's a moot point.

Did it make sense to bring Freddy Galvis into the fold as the starting short stop? Better to go with Gurriel and Travis up the middle and bring in some veteran as a back up?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: L K on February 19, 2019, 10:34:39 AM
Season ticket sales are drastically lower.  I think the goodwill of Vlad being in the lineup probably provides more for the fanbase than the extra year of control.

Even if that goodwill is only delayed for 7-8 home games?

Honestly, no? 

It's more of a principle thing.  Intentionally not fielding your best lineup.  It doesn't really matter if it is 1 game or 100 to me.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 19, 2019, 10:41:03 AM
Honestly, no? 

It's more of a principle thing.  Intentionally not fielding your best lineup.  It doesn't really matter if it is 1 game or 100 to me.

I mean the Leafs kinda did this with Nylander in the Matthews draft year. That was more of a straight-up tank move than a contract/CBA wrinkle, but still it was the same sorta idea. And that worked out pretty well.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 10:46:38 AM
I mean the Leafs kinda did this with Nylander in the Matthews draft year. That was more of a straight-up tank move than a contract/CBA wrinkle, but still it was the same sorta idea. And that worked out pretty well.

This is true but the Leafs had a particular luxury there where they had a very loyal fanbase that had a huge appetite for the team rebuilding so they could land the sort of asset like Matthews that would be instrumental in the team competing in the future.

This move would be more like if, the next year, the Leafs had decided to keep Matthews down for a while.

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: bustaheims on February 19, 2019, 10:49:19 AM
I don't actually think the amount of time/number of games matters much. It's hanging a big sign on the front door that says you're not worried about the outcome of the season if you're willing to lose even a single game to this.

Which is fair enough if that's the strategy given the way the league rewards failure but I absolutely think it's fine for fans, after being told not to care about the season, to check out until they can even pretend that they might be watching a winning ballclub.

This is basically how I see it. From the team's perspective, it makes perfect sense - they know they're not in the hunt for a playoff spot this season, so, why waste a season of team control on their best prospect if they save it so easily?

For the fans? It's a clear indicator this season is going to be a rough one in terms of the team's record. Having the best prospect in the game in the lineup from Day 1 might have made it more tolerable, but, now that it's clear the team is doing what it feels is best in the long-run (regardless of whether or not it actually is), I'm gonna stay home to watch the games, if I watch at all.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 19, 2019, 10:56:08 AM
Yes the Leafs have a fanatic fan base which has stayed with them through the wilderness years (50 +).
 Baseball is a more fickle sport, but we have seen before that Jays fans (perhaps more of Canada's team than the Leafs at this point) will flock back when the Jays make the playoffs.
I am sure that having Vlad for one more year when the Jays are at top level in year 5 that looking back to 7 home games will be forgotten or at worst a muffled laugh that we actually were discussing this to such length.

Ok Nik, have your go.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 11:00:29 AM

Again, this is not about whether or not Guerrero is here five years from now, it's about whether or not he's playing for cheap 5 years from now(and it won't even be that much cheaper if he's as good as we all hope as he is).

Basically this is being ok with the Jays intentionally making their team worse so they can save a few million bucks 5 years from now. If you're advocating for that, are you even a sports fan at that point?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 19, 2019, 11:02:09 AM
I don't actually think the amount of time/number of games matters much. It's hanging a big sign on the front door that says you're not worried about the outcome of the season if you're willing to lose even a single game to this.

Which is fair enough if that's the strategy given the way the league rewards failure but I absolutely think it's fine for fans, after being told not to care about the season, to check out until they can even pretend that they might be watching a winning ballclub.

This is basically how I see it. From the team's perspective, it makes perfect sense - they know they're not in the hunt for a playoff spot this season, so, why waste a season of team control on their best prospect if they save it so easily?

For the fans? It's a clear indicator this season is going to be a rough one in terms of the team's record. Having the best prospect in the game in the lineup from Day 1 might have made it more tolerable, but, now that it's clear the team is doing what it feels is best in the long-run (regardless of whether or not it actually is), I'm gonna stay home to watch the games, if I watch at all.
When there are so few expectations on this season, then any success will be met with pleasant optimism. Perhaps Strobro and Sani have career years, perhaps some of the new pitchers come in and do extremely well and our infield defence becomes far better than last in the league. So it's nice to have the pressure off and I for one am looking forward to seeing the new kidz on the block do there thing. Should be an interesting rebuild. Much better than trotting out overpaid oldsters, like Troy and Martin and trying to keep Bautista long after his best before date. Ok he was gone last year but boy the money we are paying not to have these guys!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 19, 2019, 11:05:17 AM

Again, this is not about whether or not Guerrero is here five years from now, it's about whether or not he's playing for cheap 5 years from now(and it won't even be that much cheaper if he's as good as we all hope as he is).

Basically this is being ok with the Jays intentionally making their team worse so they can save a few million bucks 5 years from now. If you're advocating for that, are you even a sports fan at that point?
Did I hope the Leafs would tank to have an opportunity to get Matthews....Hell yes...does that make me "not a sports fan"?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 11:07:15 AM

I literally just responded to the idea that this was similar to the 2016 Leafs season. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on February 19, 2019, 11:13:33 AM
I only advocated tanking to get Matthews as they were god awful anyway that year.  Once the had Matthews it was time to play.  You are advocating that keeping Vlad out for 3 weeks is a bad play and we can hopefully keep him 5 years down the road. Most of the rest of us see the wisdom of sitting him for 3 weeks. It just a philosophical disagreement where there is no defined right or wrong. So let's keep splitting hairs.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 11:19:33 AM

If people are seriously concerned with the team's ability to sign Guerrero as a pending UFA you might think they'd advocate the team looking to actively get on his good side rather than dicking him around for half a year plus the start to this year when he's clearly ready for the big leagues.

"Vladdy is a super important piece of our future that we hope can be convinced to stay here...so let's make sure the team jerks him around so he doesn't make serious money for as long as possible" is some next level dumb thinking.

Let's not forget that the 2016 tanking Maple Leafs brought Nylander up for some meaningless games so that he would be able to make big money sooner, rather than later.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Deebo on February 19, 2019, 12:36:53 PM
In other baseball news. Machado has agreed to join the Padres for 300M/10 Years
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 19, 2019, 12:44:31 PM
In other baseball news. Machado has agreed to join the Padres for 300M/10 Years

Kind of a weird one considering they have Tatis ready to go in a bit but I guess one of them moves to 3B?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Deebo on February 19, 2019, 06:25:48 PM
In other baseball news. Machado has agreed to join the Padres for 300M/10 Years

Kind of a weird one considering they have Tatis ready to go in a bit but I guess one of them moves to 3B?

Machado only played SS full time last season and has better defense numbers (fangraphs) at 3B and Tatis has played SS almost exclusively in the minors. Based on that, I'd guess Machado will play 3rd but he may have gotten assurances that he'd be at SS, at least to start, in order to convince him to sign.

I get the feeling that now that he has his money, Machado probably won't care what defensive position he plays.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 25, 2019, 01:13:42 AM
Blue Jays 2019 Schedule:  Clear        - away
                                       Coloured  - home

(https://imageshack.com/i/pnCF7FlUj)

(Click on image to enlarge).


Source:  Toronto Sun Sports
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 26, 2019, 05:55:12 AM
Youth movement!  Bo Bichette in the Jays exhibition action in Montreal against the Brewers:


More here:
https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/news/blue-jays-youth-movement-the-focus
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Arn on March 26, 2019, 07:00:17 AM
An interesting read that references the Jays and their handling of Guerrero Jr

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/26/how-baseball-owners-came-to-value-profits-over-world-series-titles
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: The Empire on March 26, 2019, 09:43:36 AM
An interesting read that references the Jays and their handling of Guerrero Jr

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2019/mar/26/how-baseball-owners-came-to-value-profits-over-world-series-titles

Plain and simple, they are manipulating his service time to get an extra year of control.  Atkins won't come out and say it but that's exactly what it is.  This is what Atkins said recently:

Our vision is it really comes down to development, so I just dont see him as a major league player, right? He's 19, Atkins said.

Were just trying to maximize and do everything that we can to do whats best for him, he continued. We genuinely feel it would be a disservice to the organization and to Vladdy if we werent thinking about it that way, to maximize his full potential."

An 80 hit tool not ready for the majors, yea ok.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 27, 2019, 04:47:09 AM
There will be a committee (set up by MLB Commissioner) that will take into account among other things:

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They will explore efforts to prevent teams from manipulating service time that delays their top prospects from being called up to the major leagues.

Source:   USAToday
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 28, 2019, 03:00:39 AM
Okay Blue Jays fans, its officially Playball! time, meaning the boys of summer are baa-cckk!

Having come off a losing season in which the Jays began to rebuild (dare we called it that then), by initiating selected trades beginning with stalwart starter J.A.Happ going to the Yankees at the deadline in return for two youngsters Brandon Drury & Billy McKinley.  Near seasons end, Josh Donaldson, The Bringrr of Rain No More went to the Indians in exchange for a later named player which turned out to be pitcher Julian Merryweather.
Aledmys Diaz traded to Houston Astros for pitcher Trent Thornton, Yangervis Solarte, Troy Tulowitzki, Marco Estrada, Tyler Clippard all to free agency.

And on the Blue Jays continue.  This 2019 year, so far, Russell Martin was shipped to the L.A. Dodgers, and Kendrys Morales to the Oakland As , in return for some young minor leaguers.

Blue Jays fans should be prepared to see some new faces such as veteran pitchers Clay Buchholtz & Clayton Richard including Matt Shoemaker.

There will be no Bo Bichette nor Vladimir Guerrero, not yet, as they both will continue to toil with Triple A Buffalo.  Expect speed thrower Danny Jansen to share the catchers position with Luke Maille.  Teoscar Hernandez, Lourdes Gurriel Jr., Billy McKinley, Brandon Drury, Grichuk, Pillar, Smoak, Urea are the familiar outfield & infield returnees.  Newcomer on roster is Freddy Galvis.

Buchholz, Richard, Elvis Luciano (a Rule 5 Draft Pick), Shoemaker, & Thornton are the new mound occupiers, plus the usual array of starters in Stroman, Sanchez, Borucki, and the relievers Biagini, Tepera, Gaviglio, Pannone, Mayza.

The team has a mix of veterans and youngsters and since the Blue Jays are now on rebuild mode, there will most certainly be more trading come the deadline.  Who will stay and who will go?  That will be answered at some point in the season should it come to fruition.

Its going to be a tough season for this team once again, barring any debilitating injuries.  Rebuilds are always tough to bear but the positive spin on this is that the Blue Jay organization is focused on forging a team that will eventually be competitive again.

GO JAYS GO!


25-man(active) roster:
http://m.mlb.com/tor/roster/ (http://m.mlb.com/tor/roster/)

40-man roster:
http://m.mlb.com/tor/roster/40-man/ (http://m.mlb.com/tor/roster/40-man/)

Blue Jays depth chart (active roster):
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=tor (http://mlb.mlb.com/team/depth_chart/index.jsp?c_id=tor)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 28, 2019, 03:36:24 AM
**********Season Opening Weekend********

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vs
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Starting Pitchers:
Thursday March 28   3:30pm
Jordan Zimmerman  RH Tigers vs Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays

Friday March 29         7:00pm
Matt Boyd  LH  Tigers  vs  Matt Shoemaker  RH  Blue Jays

Saturday March 30     3:00pm
Spencer Turnbull  RH  Tigers  vs  Aaron Sanchez  RH  Blue Jays
   
Sunday March 31         1:00pm
Matt Moore  LH  Tigers  vs  Trent Thornton  RH  Blue Jays

All games on SN/SN1 & 590 The FAN.


Source:   theStar.com,  MLB.com,  ESPN.com



The Detroit Tigers are the opening day visitors at the Rogers Centre here in Toronto.

Detroit too is in rebuilding mode much like the Blue Jays.

The Jays final (active) roster will feature either one of Bud Norris or Javy Guerra, both relievers.  Decision will be made today.

Jays starter Trent Thornton will be making his Major League debut Sunday.

Injuries are already plaguing the Jays as starter Ryan Borucki, Clay Buchholtz and reliever Ryan Tepera are on the shelf, along with Devon Travis (60-day DL).

Should be a fun opening day for the fans.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 29, 2019, 01:02:02 AM
A pitchers duel between starters Marcus Stroman of the Jays and Jordan Zimmerman of the Tigers, ended up with Detroit needing a two-run homerun off Jays reliever Daniel Hudson in the tenth to win it 2-0.

Impressive start for Stroman in that he pitched favourably with a no-hitter going at one point in the game up until the start of the sixth inning.   He finished with seven strikeouts over seven innings pitched before giving way to Biagini & Giles, and Hudson who took the loss.


Hi-lites:
https://www.tsn.ca/stewart-homer-in-10th-leads-tigers-over-blue-jays-in-opener-1.1281402 (https://www.tsn.ca/stewart-homer-in-10th-leads-tigers-over-blue-jays-in-opener-1.1281402)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 30, 2019, 05:30:36 AM
Jays manager Charlie Montoyo gets his first MLB win, as the Blue Jays shutout the Tigers 6-0 on starter Matt Shoemaker throwing seven scoreless innings.

Freddy Galvis and Justin Smoak with 2 RBIs each along with an RBI from Teoscar Hernandez, were the driving forces behind the Jays offence.


Hi-lites:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/videos/teams/toronto-blue-jays-video/
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 31, 2019, 04:07:12 AM
Score one up for Jays starter Aaron Sanchez!  Five scoreless innings pitched for the Jays starter a near perfect start as Toronto shutout the Tiger 3-0 Saturday afternoon. 
Justin Smoaks two-run homerun was probably all the offence the Jays really needed for the win.

Relievers Mayza, Biagini, and Hudson did their part in keeping Detroit off the scoreboard, while Ken Giles closed out the ninth for his 32nd save.



Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/blue-jays-blank-tigers (https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/blue-jays-blank-tigers)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on March 31, 2019, 07:57:57 PM
Yet another pitcher's duel between Jays starter Trent Thornton and the Tigers Matt Moore.

Moore shut down the Blue Jays bats in allowing only two hits for seven innings.

Meantime, Thornton, in making his MLB debut, lasted well into five innings, allowing two hits and striking out eight.  The latter is a Toronto Blue Jays club record for a starter making his Major League debut.

The Jays were down 3-0 by the end of the seventh until Rowdy Tellez placed Toronto on the scoreboard in the eighth  inning with a three-run slammer.
The game then went to extra innings and the Tigers emerged the victors on none than other an error.


Jays reliever Elvis Luciano becomes youngest pitcher ever in Blue Jay history.

Hi-lites:
https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-tigers-4-blue-jays-3-11~1649274 (https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-tigers-4-blue-jays-3-11~1649274)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 01, 2019, 10:38:39 PM
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday April I    7pm
David Hess RH Orioles 0-0 0.00  vs  Sean-Reid Foley Blue Jays

Tuesday April 2    7pm
Andrew Cashner RH Orioles  0-1  13.50  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  0-0  0.00

Wednesday April 3 7pm
TBD  vs  Matt Shoemaker RH Blue Jays  0-0  0.00


All games on SN/N1 & 590 The FAN.


Source:   MLB.com


The Baltimore Orioles (3-1) come to visit the Toronto Blue Jays (2-2) at the Rogers Centre for a three-game series.

The Jays fresh off an Opening Weekend split with the Detroit Tigers, hope to continue to be a force to be reckoned particularly on the mound.  Though the Jays started their home opener Thursday going 1 for 37 in the first four innings, their offence has come through with some clutch performances and key runs.

Its way too early to even assess this Blue Jays team.  Besides, theyve played a team (Detroit) that wouldnt necessarily be considered a challenge in that sense of the word. 

The Baltimore Orioles are coming off an Home Opening three-game sweep of the NY Yankees.  They will prove a tougher opponent than the Tigers for the Jays.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 01, 2019, 11:30:38 PM
Orioles starter David Hess pitched a no-hitter going through 6 innings before giving to reliever Pedro Araujo in the seventh.  Thats when the Jays Randall Grichuk smashed a two-run homer to put Toronto up on the scoreboard. 

That followed Freddy Galvis solo shot in the eighth and Teoscar Hernandez triple in the ninth, as the Jays came within a run of nearly sending the game into extra innings.  Too bad the final score read 6-5 in favour of the Orioles.

Jays starter Sean-Reid Foley was dinged for five runs (three earned), while reliever Sam Gaviglio allowed one.



Hi-lites:
https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-orioles-6-blue-jays-5~1649547 (https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-orioles-6-blue-jays-5~1649547)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 02, 2019, 12:00:35 PM

Almost as good as the John McDonald trade (https://jaysjournal.com/2017/05/21/blue-jays-trade-history-part-10-john-mcdonald-for-john-mcdonald/).
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: bustaheims on April 02, 2019, 12:28:09 PM
Full speed ahead on the tear down, clearly.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on April 02, 2019, 12:40:49 PM
Full speed ahead on the tear down, clearly.
So what is the rationale on getting rid of Pillar? Getting older? Is the young pitcher coming back decent?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: bustaheims on April 02, 2019, 01:06:01 PM
Full speed ahead on the tear down, clearly.
So what is the rationale on getting rid of Pillar? Getting older? Is the young pitcher coming back decent?

The young pitcher has upside, yeah, but, like with the other moves, its mostly about getting playing time for other young guys to see what theyve got, etc.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 02, 2019, 03:06:49 PM
Anthony Alford gets the callup to take Pillars place.

Of the three players, pitcher Juan de Paula is the youngest, and infielder Alex Hanson can be termed as a utility.

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De Paula, who was ranked the Giants No. 19 prospect by MLB Pipeline, has a 2.47 career ERA in the Minors, but he has not pitched above Class A. The Giants acquired the 21-year-old pitching prospect from the Yankees last summer as part of the Andrew McCutchen trade.

Law, 28, was removed from the Giants 40-man roster during the offseason after posting a 7.43 ERA over seven Major League appearances in 2018. Hanson, 26, was designated for assignment last week after failing to make the Giants Opening Day roster. The speedy infielder batted .252 with a .699 OPS in 110 games with San Francisco last season.


https://www.mlb.com/news/giants-trade-for-kevin-pillar-from-blue-jays
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: cabber24 on April 02, 2019, 03:20:25 PM
 :( I was hoping we would at least have superman entertaining us in the outfield this year. Sure he strikes out A LOT but he was fun to watch defensively.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on April 02, 2019, 06:11:33 PM

I don't mind the trade from a tactical point of view but it feels like a bit of a soggy return for a guy who, while obviously flawed, was still a fairly valuable player the last few years.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 02, 2019, 06:32:53 PM
Goodbye Toronto.  Kevin Pillar gets emotional...


Goodbye Superman, and Thank you.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 03, 2019, 02:56:31 AM
Orioles win 2-1, as Jays starter Marcus Stroman was tagged for both runs despite pitching well (he struck out five) for five innings of work.

Baltimore took a 2-0 but the Jays Rowdy Tellez attempted to ignite a comeback by smashing a solo shot in the ninth.

Hi-lites:
https://youtu.be/L9KgkhYRAkU (https://youtu.be/L9KgkhYRAkU)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 03, 2019, 01:35:12 PM

Classic Pillar.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on April 03, 2019, 05:41:02 PM

You guys are never going to believe this but it looks like Tulowitzki might be hurt.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 04, 2019, 03:40:03 AM
Looks like that 5-year contract extension came in handy, as Randall Grichuks two home runs plus Lourdes Gurriel Jrs. 2 RBIs, including some excellent defensive fielding by Richard Urea were more than enough to subdue the Orioles 5-3.

Jays starter Matt Shoemaker was brilliant in going seven innings and striking out eight.
Daniel Hudson relieved followed by closer Ken Giles who recorded his 33rd straight save (of which 16 are with the Jays).


Hi-lites:
https://www.tsn.ca/video/mlb-orioles-3-blue-jays-5~1651298 (https://www.tsn.ca/video/mlb-orioles-3-blue-jays-5~1651298)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 04, 2019, 03:58:25 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Thursday April 4   6pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  1-0  0.00  ERA  vs  Trevor Bauer RH Indians  0-0  1.29 ERA

 
Friday April 5       7pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays   0-0  0.00 ERA  vs  Shane Bieber RH Indiana  0-0  4.50 ERA

Saturday April 6   4pm
TBD  vs  Carlos Carrasco RH Indian   0-1  12.46 ERA

Sunday April 7     1pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays   0-1  1.42  vs  Mike Clevinger RH Indians  0-0  0.00]

All games on SN/SNO & 590 The FAN.


SOURCE:  MLB.com,  ESPN.com

The Blue Jays (3-4) come to Progressive Field in Cleveland in a four-game series against the Cleveland Indians (2-3).

The Jays took one out of three against the Orioles, part of their home opening weekend.  Though the Jays bats seem meagre they went 1 for 54 at bats their starters and relievers are steady as they go.

Sanchez & Stroman have shown flashes of their former selves on the mound, and Matt Shoemaker is a keeper with his variety of throws at the plate.

Jays skipper Charlie Montoya does appear worried about the Jays somewhat anemic offence:

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They're better hitters than what they're hitting right now. When that's going to happen, I don't know, but it's coming. Nobody's going to hit .100 we're better than that. We know that."

Toronto batted a cumulative .182 with a .251 on-base percentage over the season's first six games.[/tweet]

The Jays will have Alex Hanson and Socrates Brito, player acquired in recent trades, will be in the lineup, as well as Anthony Alford who took Pillars place in the outfield.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 05, 2019, 03:09:48 AM
Breaking balls, bah!  Cleveland starter Trevor Bauer knew a thing or two of how to keep the Jays bats off balance as he compiled a no-hitter through to seven innings.

This is the fourth time in these past eight games that the Jays  offence has been side-tracked by no-hitting pitchers going through several innings.  It happened against the Tigers, the Orioles, and now the Indians.

Jays starter Aaron Sanchez was tagged with two runs but played solidly.  He got little offensive support as Toronto stranded ten runners over eight innings.  Ouch!

Hi-lites:
https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-blue-jays-1-indians-4~1652292/mlb-blue-jays-1-indians-4~1652292 (https://www.tsn.ca/mlb/video/mlb-blue-jays-1-indians-4~1652292/mlb-blue-jays-1-indians-4~1652292)hiytter
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 05, 2019, 09:53:50 AM

Classic Pillar.


LMAO
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on April 05, 2019, 10:33:21 AM

You guys are never going to believe this but it looks like Tulowitzki might be hurt.
Man, I just can't believe that, say it ain't so!! ;)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 06, 2019, 02:16:34 AM
Clevelands Carlos Santana with the walk-off home run in the ninth off Jays reliever Joe Biagini and Toronto loses 3-2. 

It spoiled a good outing by Jays starter Trent Thornton who threw seven strikeouts in five innings pitched.
Jays reliever Biagini who came on in the ninth took the loss.

The Jays Freddy Galvis  hit a two-run homer that gave Toronto a brief  lead in the fifth inning, before the Indians tied it up leading to Santanas heroics.

Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-indians/2019/04/05/565319#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565319 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-indians/2019/04/05/565319#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565319)

The Jays Socrates Brito makes a highlight reel catch:
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on April 06, 2019, 08:28:18 AM
Oh, Socrates Brito is an MLB player and NOT a new Taco Bell, Athens offering??
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 06, 2019, 07:33:39 PM
Oh, Socrates Brito is an MLB player and NOT a new Taco Bell, Athens offering??


😁 
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 06, 2019, 07:44:11 PM
Bad day on the mound for Jays starter Thomas Pannone.  He was tagged for four of the Cleveland runs after just two innings. 
Reliever Luciano tried to stem the Indians bats but they got two off him.

The Jays tried a small comeback but Cleveland closed the door on that going ahead with the two runs in the fifth, eventually winning 7-2.

Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-indians/2019/04/06/565320#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565320
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on April 07, 2019, 11:13:59 AM
Can't wait for Vlad the Impailer to join this team and start to get some hitting going. Bo is also waiting in the wings, we need some hitting!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 07, 2019, 07:34:33 PM
Can't wait for Vlad the Impailer to join this team and start to get some hitting going. Bo is also waiting in the wings, we need some hitting!


I'm afraid that won't be for a while.  Vlad is currently on the IL with an Oblique strain.  He's in Class A league, while Bichette is stirring the pot in Triple A Buffalo.

Don't bet on Atkins to have these two in the lineup, definitely not now or even in mid-season.  September callup?  Maybe.

Truth is that the Jays bats have been largely silent due to the fact that opposing teams know what to pitch at them with what the Jays offence is seemingly having the most troible with -- breaking balls (sliders, curveballs).

It's still too early in the season but I get what you're saying.  Smoak-bombs?  Clutch hitting? (Sporadic)

Pitching has been surprisingly very good.  The starters, yes even Sanchez & Stroman.  The relievers not too bad.  Problem is where's the offensive support?

 With a young team in rebuild mode, these are the ups and downs to be expected.  Of course, it doesn't absolve every player.

Good article here about that:
https://jaysjournal.com/2019/04/07/blue-jays-employing-tiresome-approach-plate/
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 07, 2019, 07:51:01 PM
Aw shucks...Cleveland sweeps.

Stroman pitched well keeping the Indians offence off balance but...

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 07, 2019, 07:55:10 PM
Reminiscing, reminiscing.  Remember when...


I remember watching the telecast back then, and Doug Ault's home run, & yes, the snow.  ☺
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: The Empire on April 07, 2019, 10:09:26 PM
Can't wait for Vlad the Impailer to join this team and start to get some hitting going. Bo is also waiting in the wings, we need some hitting!


I'm afraid that won't be for a while.  Vlad is currently on the IL with an Oblique strain.  He's in Class A league, while Bichette is stirring the pot in Triple A Buffalo.

Don't bet on Atkins to have these two in the lineup, definitely not now or even in mid-season.  September callup?  Maybe.

Truth is that the Jays bats have been largely silent due to the fact that opposing teams know what to pitch at them with what the Jays offence is seemingly having the most troible with -- breaking balls (sliders, curveballs).

It's still too early in the season but I get what you're saying.  Smoak-bombs?  Clutch hitting? (Sporadic)

Pitching has been surprisingly very good.  The starters, yes even Sanchez & Stroman.  The relievers not too bad.  Problem is where's the offensive support?

 With a young team in rebuild mode, these are the ups and downs to be expected.  Of course, it doesn't absolve every player.

Good article here about that:
https://jaysjournal.com/2019/04/07/blue-jays-employing-tiresome-approach-plate/

Atkins made an irresponsible statement a few weeks back.  I just dont see him as a major league player.  It's clear they are manipulating his service time to gain an extra year of control but to come out and basically say so? 

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Andy on April 08, 2019, 09:02:49 AM
Can't wait for Vlad the Impailer to join this team and start to get some hitting going. Bo is also waiting in the wings, we need some hitting!

Yea, the addition of those guys will certainly make this team a little more watchable. The pitching looks good (albeit small sample size against average, at best, hitting teams), and there's no one protecting the few capable hitters they have. It's pretty frustrating to have to watch these guys almost get no-hit against each semi-capable opposing starter.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on April 08, 2019, 11:11:32 AM
Reminiscing, reminiscing.  Remember when...


I remember watching the telecast back then, and Doug Ault's home run, & yes, the snow.  ☺
I remember sitting about half way down the third base line, me and 3 buddies each had a Bacardi micky. A plain-cloths cop confiscated my friends bottles, when he got to me, he let me keep it. LOL
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: cabber24 on April 08, 2019, 11:56:29 AM
Blue Jays baseball has been pretty unwatchable so far. 0.183 team batting average and lead the league in strikeouts.

A serious question, who on this roster is projected to around long term? I honestly don't know what I am looking at.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: L K on April 08, 2019, 05:08:48 PM
Blue Jays baseball has been pretty unwatchable so far. 0.183 team batting average and lead the league in strikeouts.

A serious question, who on this roster is projected to around long term? I honestly don't know what I am looking at.

Honestly, right now the only guy who has long-term staying projection is Danny Janssen.  He's the catcher of the future for the Jays. 

Grichuk will likely be around for a few years.  Teoscar could be around for a while if his bat stays consistent mostly because the Jays don't have better options. 

In the infield Drury is a placeholder for Vlad at 3B.  Galves is just a placeholder for Bichette and Gurriel is a placeholder for Miller/Biggio.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 09, 2019, 09:03:02 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Tuesday April 9  2pm
Matt Shoemaker RH Blue Jays  2-0  0.00 ERA  vs  Chris Sale LH Red Sox  0-29 8.00 ERA

Thursday April 10  7pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  1-1  1.74 ERA  vs   Nathan Eovaldi RH Red Sox  0-0  8.10 ERA

All games on SN/SN1 & The Fan 590.


Source:  theStar.com,  SunSports,  ESPN.com


The Blue Jays (3-8) visit Fenway Park & the Green Monster in a two-game series against the Boston Red Sox (3-8).

Both teams have identical records and are both struggling.  The Bosox have had pitching woes their starters are 0-7 with opposition batting at .320.  The woeful pitching stats from their top starters (namely Sale, Porcello & Price) has left many fans wondering what ails the team.

The Bosox offensively fare better than the Jays in that category though not much better for a team like Boston anyway.  Injuries to key players such as Dustin Pedroia have hampered the Bosox bats.

The Blue Jays are having a surprisingly good season when it comes to their starting pitchers, and even to their relievers, in spite of the teams w/l record.

It is the offence where the Jays falter second worst in the Majors to only the Cincinnati Reds of the NL.  Richard Urea has been on a five game hitting streak.  The only other Blue Jay worth a mention here is Freddy Galvis who is on a tear, hitting .324 with three homers & having driven in six RBIs during this stretch.

Usually its expected of players such as Justin Smoak to parlay much of the success they had last season into this season, but, Smoak for one has been hampered by a neck injury.  The reason for his missing the last series against the Indians.

Speaking of the Jays most recent series in which they were swept by the Indians, it could be their chance to turn their fortunes around against the lowly Red Sox.  Well see.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: cabber24 on April 09, 2019, 10:19:35 AM
Blue Jays baseball has been pretty unwatchable so far. 0.183 team batting average and lead the league in strikeouts.

A serious question, who on this roster is projected to around long term? I honestly don't know what I am looking at.

Honestly, right now the only guy who has long-term staying projection is Danny Janssen.  He's the catcher of the future for the Jays. 

Grichuk will likely be around for a few years.  Teoscar could be around for a while if his bat stays consistent mostly because the Jays don't have better options. 

In the infield Drury is a placeholder for Vlad at 3B.  Galves is just a placeholder for Bichette and Gurriel is a placeholder for Miller/Biggio.
I guess they're hoping if they throw enough crap at the wall something might stick? Well here's to hoping someone surprises us.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 09, 2019, 11:33:02 AM

Should've gone for the high fastball.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Arn on April 09, 2019, 03:33:25 PM
Watching my first game of the season. Jays have just manufactured a couple of runs with a sacrifice bunt, a wild pitch and then a straight steal of home base getting the runners from 1st and 2nd base round home.

Very different philosophy and nice to see Montoya trying something...
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Deebo on April 09, 2019, 03:40:21 PM
Blue Jays baseball has been pretty unwatchable so far. 0.183 team batting average and lead the league in strikeouts.

A serious question, who on this roster is projected to around long term? I honestly don't know what I am looking at.

Honestly, right now the only guy who has long-term staying projection is Danny Janssen.  He's the catcher of the future for the Jays. 

Grichuk will likely be around for a few years.  Teoscar could be around for a while if his bat stays consistent mostly because the Jays don't have better options. 

In the infield Drury is a placeholder for Vlad at 3B.  Galves is just a placeholder for Bichette and Gurriel is a placeholder for Miller/Biggio.


I think they have higher hopes for Gurriel than that.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: AtomicMapleLeaf on April 09, 2019, 04:31:19 PM

Should've gone for the high fastball.

I so love the sarcasm the Onion provides.

Wait a tick.....
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 09, 2019, 09:18:00 PM
We win!


Gurriel proves his mettle.  Pina Power!


It was the hapless Red Sox home opener.  Nice to see the Jays spoil that.

Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-red-sox/2019/04/09/565027#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565027
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 12, 2019, 01:57:16 AM
Well, well, well, he didnt skip a beat coming back from injury...


Story:
https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/blue-jays-notebook-countdown-guerrero-jr-s-toronto-debut/
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 12, 2019, 02:24:35 AM
Close but...the Jays gave up leads twice 5-0 and 6-5 in a game they should have won.  Instead, it was the Red Sox the winners of this one as they got to closer Ken Giles and came away the victors in the ninth inning. 
Giles streak of 34 consecutive saves also came to an end.

Justin Smoak, (back after being out of the lineup due to neck tightness), with his three-run homer and Rowdy Tellez with his two-run shot, helped the Jays buildup the lead.  Thanks to several fielding errors, something spoiling Jays starter Aaron Sanchezs good pitching, the Bosox were back in the game.

Freddy Galvis solo homerun in the eighth one-upped the lead again to 6-5 for the Jays, only to have the Bosox come away with win in the ninth.

For the first time this season, the Jays produced a total of 13 runs in a series something positive to build on as the Jays hitters were kept quite busy in this series  against the Red Sox.

Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-red-sox/2019/04/11/565028#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565028
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 12, 2019, 02:55:11 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday April 12  7pm
Ryne Stanek  RH Rays  0-0  1.50 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  0-0  1.69 ERA

Saturday April 13  3pm
Blake Snell LH Rays  2-1  2.84 ERA  vs  Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays

Sunday April 14  1pm
Charlie Morton RH Rays  2-0  2.25 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  0-2  2.21 ERA

All games on SN & The FAN 590.


Source:   SunSports, MLB.com,  CBSsports


The Tampa Bay Rays (10-3) come to a Toronto for a three-game series against the Hlue Jays (4-9).

The Rays with their winning record occupy first place in their division, taking full advantage of the fact that other rivals, namely the Yankees & Red Sox, are enduring notoriously slow starts to the season.

Tampa Bay has had a MLB-best batting average of .676, which actually goes back to last season.  Still, with the addition of Tommy Pham and Auston Meadows, the Rays have exploded, explored, and exploited much to their erstwhile advantage.

Tampa Bay, the experimenter with their open pitching concept, has instead gone with their three starters and limited the concept of open pitching somewhat.

The Blue Jays, having coming off a split with the Bosox in their most recent series, will be looking for much of the same hitting & run production which they amassed in those two games.  A sure sense of positivity for this hitting-starved team, as The Big Smoak Justin Smoak hit it big again after having come off the lineup with neck soreness.  A good sign for Smoak indeed.

Jays fans will be expecting the team to come up big against the Rays and stop the Tampa Bay train from rolling along.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 12, 2019, 10:59:20 PM
Crazy game.  Final score 11-7 in favour of the Rays.

Tampa set up an 8-0 lead going into the seventh inning.  Then, the Blue Jays score six runs in the seventh inning proper.  They add another one in the eighth to narrow the score to 8-7.  But then...
...reliever Davy Guerra gets zonked for three Ray runs...11-7 finale.

The Rays banged out 16 hits on the night, putting Jays starter Trent Thornton in misery with five runs off him after just three innings.  It didn't fare any better for relievers such as Luciano nor Guerra.  Only Gaviglio & Hudson were able to control the Rays.

Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/rays-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/12/566871#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566871 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/rays-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/12/566871#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566871)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 13, 2019, 06:03:16 PM
Jays win 3-1 on some excelling fielding by Hernandez, clutch hitting by Gurriel and a solid performance by starter Clay Bucholtz in his debut on the mound as a Blue Jay.

Reliever Thomas Pannone got the win, Giles the save.

Tampa starter Blake Snell struck out nine in six innings spellbinding the Jays bats, until Toronto sprung back to life with the comeback.

In order to make room on the 25-man roster for Bucholtz, Richard Urea was optioned to Triple A Buffalo.


Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/rays-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/13/566872#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566872
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 15, 2019, 05:29:19 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday April 15  7:30pm
Matt Shoemaker RH Blue Jays  3-0  0.92 ERA  vs  Martin Perez LH Twins  1-0  7.56 ERA 

Tuesday April 16  7:30pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  1-1  1.69 ERA   Vs  Kyle Gibson RH Twins  0-0  7.71 ERA 

Wednesday April 17  7:30pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  0-1  4.61 ERA   vs  Jake Odorizzi RH Twins  0-2  6.35 ERA

Thursday April 18  1pm
Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays  0-0  1.50 ERA  vs  Michael Pineda RH Twins  2-0  3.00 ERA


Source:  MLB.com,  ESPN.com,  CBSsports


The Blue Jays (5-11) come to Target Field in a four-game series against the Minnesota Twins (8-4).

While Toronto has struggled this season, most recently losing two out of three to division-leading Tampa Bay Rays, the Minnesota Twins have found their calling sitting atop the AL Central.

The Twins have won seven of their last ten games and are lead by Jorge Polanco, Max Kepler and Eddie Rosario.

The Blue Jays have lost ten of their last thirteen games having giving up twenty runs in just the last three alone.  Freddy Galvis, Randall Grichuk, & Teoscar Hernandez lead the team in RBIs & hits.

Gotta get some wins, guys!

FO JAYS FO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 16, 2019, 02:00:05 AM
Hernandez powers the Jays to victory!

Jays starter Matt Shoemaker with yet another solid start.  Hernandez' three-run homer gave the Jays the go-ahead run.  It was his first home run of the year.
The Jays also got help in the hitting department from Galvis, Grichuk, & Smoak.
Sam Gaviglio got the win, Biagini (in place of closer Giles) the save.


The Jays demoted Lourdes Gurriel Jr. to Triple A Buffalo to work on his defensive technique.  Gurriel appeared shaky in that department  with the club.  They'll let him decide when he's ready.  The Jays intend to utilize him as possibly in the DH position when he returns.

Hi-lites:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nStEODzVpmk&feature=onebox (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nStEODzVpmk&feature=onebox)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 17, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
Another big night for Hernandez & co. last night.

The Jays scored four runs in the sixth only to have Minny tie it at the bottom of the same inning.  Then the fun began with Teoscar Henrandezs rBI double that gave the Jays the lead at 6-4.  The Twins tried a quick comeback and were thwarted right at the plate by a throw from Hernandez to Galvis to Jansen.  Gotcha for the final out! (Check out video for that one).

https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-jays-relay-to-end-it?t=must-c (https://www.mlb.com/video/must-c-jays-relay-to-end-it?t=must-c)

Jays starter Aaron Sanchez with the win, along with some solid relief pitching from Hudson, Pannone, & Biagini.  Closer Giles gets the save.


Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-twins/2019/04/16/566969#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566969 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-twins/2019/04/16/566969#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566969)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 18, 2019, 03:38:38 AM
Jays lose 4-1.


Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-twins/2019/04/17/566970#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566970
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on April 18, 2019, 12:18:54 PM
What day can we bring up Vlad to Impale the opposition? I can't wait to see this kid on the team. Bo as well. Its time for the New Jays, not the Blue Jays
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 18, 2019, 01:33:11 PM
What day can we bring up Vlad to Impale the opposition? I can't wait to see this kid on the team. Bo as well. Its time for the New Jays, not the Blue Jays


It will happen sometime this year.  No timetable yet for Vlad at least.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 19, 2019, 07:41:17 AM
All wrapped up!  First time this season that the Jays have won a series.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-twins/2019/04/18/566971#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566971
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 19, 2019, 07:57:45 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday April 19  10pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  0-3  1.99 ERA  vs  Aaron Brooks RH Athletics  2-1  4.24 ERA

Saturday April 20  4pm
Matt Shoemaker RH Blue Jays  3-0  1.75 ERA  vs  Mike Fiers RH Athletics  2-1  7.06 ERA

Sunday April 21  4pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  2-1  2.86 ERA  vs  Brett Anderson LH Athletics  3-0  2.63 ERA

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:   MLB.com,  Sportsnet,  theStar.com


The Blue Jays (8-12j go on to Oakland to play a three-game series at Oakland Coliseum home of the Oakland As (11-10).

The As (or Athletics) are at nearly .500 ball in their A.L. West Division and sport two former Blue Jays starter Marco Estrada and the recently traded Kendrys Morales.  We wont be seeing Estada in the lineup for hes been placed on the 10-day IL due to injury.

The Athletics are third in terms of home run production as well as in runs scored.  Having Khris Davis as your Major League home run leader can only help.

The Blue Jays just recently took a series for the first time this season and on the road too, winning three out of four over the Minnesota Twins.

The Jays are third in the league in terms of starting pitching ERA, with the best going to Matt Shoemaker & Marcus Stroman.

Teoscar Hernandez is third in fielding assists.  Hernandez had a dominant series against the Twins.  Another Jay whos bats are swinging loudly is Justin Smoak.  It certainly didnt take him long to get back into the swing of things (no pun intended) after returning from an injury.  Smoak leads the Jays with 13 RBIs.

With Toronto slowly attempting to even out their w/l record, another sweep here against the As would be most welcome.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 20, 2019, 07:34:44 AM
The Stro show comes alive!

Yes, Jays starter Marcus Stroman pitched eight innings throwing six strikeouts and limiting the As to one run.  Excellent performance from the Stro man.
Closer Ken Giles preserved the win in the ninth.

The Jays got offensive contributions from the likes of Danny Jansen, Socrates Brito, Drury & McKinney.

The victory puts the Jays within 1GB third place NY Yankees in their division.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-athletics/2019/04/19/566096#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566096 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-athletics/2019/04/19/566096#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566096)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 21, 2019, 07:23:08 AM
Ooooh...Oak got smoked!

In a 10-1 thumping of the Oakland As Saturday night, the Blue Jays victory came at a price.  Jays starter Matt Shoemaker was forced to leave the game early due to a knee injury.  To have the Jays best starting pitcher go down isnt something a team like a Toronto wants to see happen, certainly not at a time when theyre riding a mini wave of success.

Rowdy Tellez with 3 RBIs led the charge on the scoreboard.

Reliever Sam Gaviglio was credited with the win.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-athletics/2019/04/20/566097#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566097 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-athletics/2019/04/20/566097#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566097)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 21, 2019, 09:31:40 PM
How s-w-e-e-p it feels!

The Blue Jays held on to a 5-4 win over the As for the series sweep. 


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-athletics/2019/04/21/566098#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=box,game=566098
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 23, 2019, 07:52:49 PM
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Starting Pitchers:
Tuesday April 23  7pm
Jeff Samardzija RH Giants  1-1  2.91 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  0-2  5.40 ERA

Wednesday April 24  4pm
Drew Pomeranz LH Giants  0-2  4.82 ERA vs  Clay Bucholtz RH  Blue Jays  0-0  3.38 ERA

All games on SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:   MLB.com,  theStar.com


The San Francisco Giants (9-14) roll into town for a two-game interleague series against the Blue Jays (11-12).

Former Blue Jay and fan favourite, Kevin Pillar, makes his return to the Rogers Centre in a Giants uniform.  San Francisco, by the way, is mired in last place in their N.L. West division.

Th Jays, whove won six of their last seven games, all on the road, have found success in improving their w/l record helped in part by their offence of which Justin Smoak is so much a part of, and also by some stellar pitching performances mainly by their starters.

It is unfortunate to have had their best starting pitcher this season, Matt Shoemaker be sidelined for the rest of the year with a knee sprain.  Shoemaker was also among the leagues best before the injury occurred.

Looking forward in seeing the Blue Jays continue rising theyre currently third in their division.  Good job, guys.  Keep up the good works.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 24, 2019, 01:24:04 AM
Close, but...

Giants prevail 7-6 over the Jays.  The Jays Rowdy Tellez made things close with his eighth inning Grand Slam.

Prior to the start of the game, former Blue Jay Kevin Pillar, now a Giant, was given a tribute and a standing ovation by the crowd.  An emotional few moments for Kevin Superman Pillar. 



Pillars message:

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/giants-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/23/566874#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566874
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 25, 2019, 02:30:13 AM
Jays get shutout 4-0 by the Giants.
Jays starter Clay Bucholtz suffers first loss of the after having won his previous start.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/giants-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/24/566875#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566875
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 26, 2019, 05:24:29 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday April 26  7pm
Mike Fiers RH Athletics  2-2  8.28 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-3  1.76 ERA

Saturday April 27  3pm
Brett Anderson LH Athletics   3-1  3.04 ERA  vs  Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  2-1  2.77 ERA

Sunday April 28  1pm
Chris Bassitt RH Athletics  1-0  0.00 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton  0-3  5.79 ERA

All games on SN & The F AN 590.


Source:   MLB.com, BlueJaysBanter,  SunSports


The Oakland Athletics (or As) (14-13) come to Toronto for a three-game series against the Blue Jays (11-14) at the Rogers Centre.

While this series features two third place teams, the real story is Vladimir Guerreros being called up and taking his place on the roster.

All eyes will be on the #1 prospect in baseball (hes Canadian-born) as hes easily the best prospect that the Blue Jays have ever drafted.  The most touted which also brings great expectations, but Guerreros no stranger to the bat.  Hes naturally gifted and is seen as one of the cornerstones in the clubs future rise to respectability.

Former Jay Kendrys Morales makes his return to Toronto this time in an As uniform.  Another former Blue Jay, pitcher Marco Estrada, is still on the IL.

Let the Vlad show begin!

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2019, 09:02:42 AM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 26, 2019, 09:26:52 AM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?

He's very, very thicc.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2019, 09:31:25 AM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?

He's very, very thicc.

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Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 26, 2019, 09:39:26 AM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?

He's very, very thicc.

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I assume that gets most people going. He really brings the boom boom.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on April 26, 2019, 09:51:08 AM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?

He's very, very thicc.

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I assume that gets most people going. He really brings the boom boom.

So he can hit is what I'm getting out of this conversation lol.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 26, 2019, 10:01:40 AM
So he can hit is what I'm getting out of this conversation lol.

https://www.theringer.com/mlb/2019/4/26/18513283/vladimir-guerrero-jr-is-baseballs-prince-who-was-promised

Buddy can mash.

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Deebo on April 26, 2019, 04:37:17 PM
So I don't know anything about Vlad. Should I be excited?

He is the highest rated hitting prospect, maybe ever.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 27, 2019, 03:02:47 AM
Call it the Valddy and Drury Show.

The Jays Vladimir Guerrero Jr. & Brandon Drury were instrumental in giving Toronto a 4-2 win over the A's in the ninth inning.  Talk about dramatics.  Guerrero hit his first professional hit, a double, a liner to right field which landed him at second base.  With Hernandez whiffing, on came Brandon Drury and with him a walk-off two-run homer!  It was Drury's first ever career walk-off homer.

Wow. 

Jays starter Marcus Stroman pitched seven strong innings but didn't get the win.  That went to Jays closer Ken Giles.

What a night for both Guerrero and Drury!


Hi-lites:




Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 27, 2019, 06:04:08 PM
Earlier today:


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Any time a suspicious package is found we have to ensure public safety, she said. Thats our number one concern.

As a precaution.  Good work, Toronto Police.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 27, 2019, 06:44:31 PM
Jays win 7-1 over the As.

Jays starter Aaron Sanchez limited Oakland to one run (unearned) pitching well and getting the win.

The Blue Jays got RBIs from Grichuk with 2, Sogard, Hernandez, Tellez, and Jansen.

Cute!  Vladdy & the fans...

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/athletics-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/27/566877#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566877
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 28, 2019, 06:21:34 PM
Im enjoying the way this iteration of the Jays generates offense. Another walk off.

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 28, 2019, 06:45:57 PM
Yes, a definite difference.

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 28, 2019, 06:56:05 PM
Not only was there a Smoak walk-off game-winning single, there was Brandon Drurys three-run homer that tied the game up, and there was reliever Elvis Luciano getting the win and...buh bye Oakland.  Beautiful sunny day!


Hi-lites & more:  plus Hermans contribution  🙂
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/athletics-vs-blue-jays/2019/04/28/566878#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566878
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 29, 2019, 10:33:11 AM
As someone who hasn't followed the Jays for a couple of years now (and only peripherally at that), who is Brandon Drury and why does he keep crushing the A's with  homeruns.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on April 29, 2019, 11:16:04 AM
As someone who hasn't followed the Jays for a couple of years now (and only peripherally at that), who is Brandon Drury and why does he keep crushing the A's with  homeruns.
Drury was part of our return for J Happ along with McKinney. Drury however was the centerpiece of our return.  Was ranked very high on prospect lists, had a few injuries along the way.  Looks like a keeper!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on April 30, 2019, 09:00:09 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Tuesday April 30  10pm
Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays   0-1  4.60 ERA  vs  Griffin Canning RH Angels

Wednesday May 1  10pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-3  1.43 ERA  vs  Felix Pea RH Angels  0-1  3.63 ERA

Thursday May 2  10pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-1  2.32 ERA  vs  Tyler Skaggs LH Angels  2-2  3.15 ERA

All games on SN & The FAN 590.


Source:   MLB.com,  theStar.com,  ESPN.com


The Blue Jays (14-14) travel to Angel Stadium for a three-game series against the Los Angeles Angels (12-17).

The Angels are currently in last place in the A.L. West division but sport some mighty hitters in Albert Pujols and Mike Trout.

The Blue Jays are coming off a sweep of the Oakland As from their most recent homestand.  Toronto has reached .500  good enough for third place in the A.L. East, up on the fourth-place Bosox and 5.0 GBL Tampa Bay Rays (with the Yankees hot on their heels).

Now the question everyone is asking...how did Vladimir Guerrero Jr. do in his debut weekend as a bona fide Blue Jay?  He went 3 for 12 and didnt disappoint with his hitting and fielding (3rd base).
We all know he will only get better and has already given the Jays that title of legitimacy.   
Not just Guerrero but Brandon Drury has come into his own as well. 

Recently the Jays fine tuned their offence and are getting the results they sought in the process, thanks in part to skipper Montoyo who is getting to know his roster and the rotation with every passing game.

Batter up!

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: pmrules on April 30, 2019, 10:08:34 AM
Despite his record, Stroman has been quite good this early season...

Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-3  1.43 ERA
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on April 30, 2019, 10:26:04 AM
Despite his record, Stroman has been quite good this early season...

Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-3  1.43 ERA

It's a bit like measuring goalies by win-loss. They're not in charge of scoring goals or batting in runs.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: L K on April 30, 2019, 06:28:22 PM
The Jays have scored a total of 15 runs in Stroman's 6 outings this year.  That's 2.5 runs/game in games where Stroman pitched.  That same offense has scored 8 runs while Stroman has been on the mound (1.93 runs/start).  Stroman has given up 6 earned runs in 6 starts (9 runs overall).  The bullpen has given up 9 runs in Stroman's starts over 16 1/3 innings (4.96 ERA)

The offense has sucked for Stroman.  The bullpen has sucked for Stroman. 
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 01, 2019, 02:08:39 AM
Jays lose 4-3 but not before some highlight reel catch by Guerrero Jr. on Pujols:


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-angels/2019/04/30/564749#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564749
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on May 01, 2019, 11:29:06 AM
Nice play by Vlad, he can play D, still want to see a timely HR from him..I know its coming.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 02, 2019, 04:17:38 AM
Valiant comeback falls short of the mark as the Jays tumble to the Angels 6-3.

Starter Stroman took the loss. 

With the two consecutive home runs, a solo by Tellez and the a two-run homer by Grichuk, the Blue Jays are now second in the A.L. in the RISP stat batting .290.  The Texas Rangers are tops (.294j while the Seattle Mariners are third (.283) behind the Jays.  The Yankees trail in fourth spot (.272).

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-angels/2019/05/01/564750#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564750
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on May 02, 2019, 03:17:54 PM

*weeps quietly
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 03, 2019, 03:42:28 AM
Old news but good news...as good as gold to us Jays fans:

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 03, 2019, 03:47:18 AM
The Jays go splat!

Angels sweep series with a 6-2 win. 

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-angels/2019/05/02/564751#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564751
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 03, 2019, 03:55:25 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday May 3  8pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  0-3  5.08  ERA  vs  Mike Minors LH   Rangers   3-2  2.88 ERA

Saturday May 4  8pm
TBD  vs  Lance Lynn RH Rangers   3-2  5.45 ERA

Sunday May 5  3pm
Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays  0-3  5.08 ERA  vs  Drew Smyly LH Rangers  0-3  7.80 ERA

All games on SN, SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:  MLB.com,  CBSsports


The Blue Jays (14-17) arrive at Globe Life Park to play a three-game series against the Texas Rangers (14-15).

The Rangers, third in the A.L. West, are second in the league for Stolen Bases with 25.

The Blue Jays, third in the A.L. East, rank third in the league in team pitching with a 3.40 ERA.

This Blue Jays/Rangers tilt will have non of the bravado or animosity displayed in the past between these two teams, as Jose Bautista is no longer with Toronto and Rougned Odor has been on the IL, just recently activated for duty.  Oh of course, there s always the possibility of these two teams re-igniting their high octane run-ins but better they save that for the post-season (if there will be one for either of them, that is).

Toronto got swept by the Angels in their most recent series and so the Blue Jays looking to regain their winning ways.  Fans are eagerly awaiting for Guerrero Jr., to hit his first home run.  Soon...soon...

GO JAYS GO!  and GO VLADDY!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Bender on May 03, 2019, 08:54:47 AM

*weeps quietly

Bad trade then, worse trade now.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 04, 2019, 10:57:17 AM
A 1-0 win for the Jays  in the 12th inning.

Clever bunting by Casey Jansen that culminated in a throwing error by Rangers reliever Jurado gave the Jays the winning run.


Jays starter Trent Thornton pitched a gem as he limited the Rangers to just one hit.

Reliever Daniel Hudson was credited with the win, and Giles closed out the inning with the save.


Hi-lites:
https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/blue-jays-shut-out-rangers (https://www.mlb.com/bluejays/video/blue-jays-shut-out-rangers)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 05, 2019, 06:52:12 AM
Jays lose 8-5 to the Rangers.

Jays starter Thomas Pannone was rocked for seven of the eight runs.

Heres Guerrero Jr.s RBI:

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rangers/2019/05/04/566781#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566781
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 05, 2019, 06:12:17 PM
Better days ahead.

Jays starter Clay Bucholtz got swamped with seven runs in four innings and was saddled with the loss.  Not a very supportive offence this afternoon by his teammates as the Rangers feasted on Bucholtz and limited the Jays on the bases.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rangers/2019/05/05/566782#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566782
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 06, 2019, 04:43:59 PM
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday May 6  7pm
Martin Perez LH Twins  4-0  3.41 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman  Blue Jays  1-4  2.20 ERA

Tuesday May 7  7pm
Jose Berrios RH Twins  5-1  2.91 ERA  vs  Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-2  3.09 ERA

Wednesday May 8  7pm
Kyle Gibson RH Twins  2-1  4.68 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  0-3  4.08 ERA

All games on SN & The FAN 590.


Source:  SunSports, MLB.com,  ESPN.com


The Minnesota Twins (20-12) come to the Rogers Centre for a three-game series against the Blue Jays (15-19).

The Minnesota Twins occupy first place in the A.L. Central division albeit barely above the second-place Cleveland Indians.  Baseball fans are left wondering what of the Indians now that ace pitcher Kory Kluber is on the shelf.  How this will impact the race for first between these two teams remains to be seen, even this early in the season.

The Twins are third in the league in home runs scored with 56.

The Blue Jays are coming off getting swept by the Texas Rangers three zip.  Many saw how the Rangers stymied the Jays offence even when Toronto attempted several comebacks.  There are times when the Jays do everything right and then there are...oh well...

The good news though is that the Jays are still third in the league in pitching ERA (3.44), and the weekend series with the Rangers saw Vladdy Guerrero Jr., get his first MLB RBI.  Hes still striking out every so often but will eventually improve as he gets to know the angles & the pitches better.  Still, Jays fans are happy for him.

Toronto has now slipped to fourth in their division overtaken by the Red Sox.

Cmon Blue Jays, lets get the win column going again!

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 08, 2019, 03:44:52 AM
For the second game in a row (the Jays lost 8-0 Monday night), Toronto was shut out again last night 3-0.

Unlike starter Marcus Stroman who was tagged for five of the eight runs by the Twins Monday night, Aaron Sanchez fared better on the mound giving up three runs but with good ball control.

 Too bad that the Jays have been unable to muster any offence of late.  This has got to change, and soon, too.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/twins-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/07/566880#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566880 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/twins-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/07/566880#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566880)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 09, 2019, 01:48:22 AM
Not worth writing about.

Jays lose 9-1 and thus get swept by the Twins.  Blah!

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 09, 2019, 08:03:42 PM
Montoyo is mad:


On Guerreros major league hardship:
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Theyre pitching them like they know him, Montoyo said. Nobodys got more attention in baseball than that kid. Theyre pitching him pretty tough. There are no secrets. They know how to get you out.

In a way, thats good because hes going to make an adjustment and hes going to hit. We know that. You cant forget hes just 20 years old.

Watching Vladdy is worth the price of admission.  Watching the Jays swing into air is as exciting as watching a pot dry. 

The Blue Jays and their measly offence need to wake  it up.

Read it and wring your hands:
https://torontosun.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/expected-but-not-accepted-blue-jays-blown-out-and-swept-away-in-fifth-consecutive-loss#comments (https://torontosun.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/expected-but-not-accepted-blue-jays-blown-out-and-swept-away-in-fifth-consecutive-loss#comments)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 10, 2019, 01:20:52 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday May 10  7pm
Dylan Covey RH White Sox  0-1  4.50 ERA  vs Clay Bucholtz RH Blue Jays  0-2  6.57 ERA

Saturday May 11  3pm
Ivan Nova RH White Sox  1-3  7.04 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-5  2.96 ERA

Sunday May 12  1pm
Lucas Giolito RH White Sox  3-1  4.05 ERA  vs  Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-3  3.21 ERA

All games on SN & The FAN 590.


Source:  MLB.com,  theStar.com,  CBSsports


The Chicago White Sox (16-20) make their first visit of the season to the Rogers Centre  for a three-game series against the Blue Jays (15-20).

The Chisox and the Jays have near-identical w/l records and divisional position placements.  But the differences stop there, as the White Sox have won four of their last six games, and the Blue Jays are two for eight and on a five-game losing streak.

While Chicago sports among the worst ERA in baseball, the Jays are third in that regard.  This may come as little solace to Jays fans whos team has been nearly shutout in all of their most recent three-game series here against the Minnesota Twins.  Dating back to their still previous series against the Texas Rangers and you have a team searching for offensive answers,

No matter how well your pitching is, as long as the Jays dont offer offence in tandem, success will not come easily for this outfit. 

Nothing new here as the Jays have had trouble with their bats this season.  They blow cold, then warm up, go on a  winning run, then go cold again.  Up they go, down they go.

Its time to feast on some pitching.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on May 10, 2019, 02:50:56 PM
Just wanted to thank you Hockey Fan for doing these series reports. Nice work.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 11, 2019, 08:17:14 AM
Just wanted to thank you Hockey Fan for doing these series reports. Nice work.


Thank you, Highlander!  🙂🙂
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 11, 2019, 08:54:42 AM
Jays defeated the Chicago White Sox Friday night 4-3, thanks to Grichuks three-run home run and to Hernandezs solo shot.  Smile, the offence woke up!
(Yes, true Chicagos sports the worst pitching, which shows the Jays sensing opportunity).



What was so different about this game?  Not only did Toronto snap out of their five-game losing funk but with starter Clay Bucholtz being placed on the 10-day IL with shoulder problems, the Jays skipper Montoyo elected to go with an all bullpen pitching mode, beginning with Daniel Hudson on down.

It worked well enough for the Jays to earn a win.  On top of that, closer Ken Giles earned his 100th MLB save.  Some milestone!



Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/10/566882#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566882
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 12, 2019, 06:50:11 AM
Despite the Jays having lost 7-2 to the Chisox Saturday, there were some positives such as:




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https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/11/566883#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566883 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/11/566883#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566883)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 13, 2019, 01:35:36 AM
The Jays flopped out in a 5-1 loss to the Chisox Sunday.

Jays starter Aaron Sanchez, despite striking out eleven batters, was dinged for the four runs scored by Chicago.  Everyone has their bad day. 

The Jays bats were largely silent as Chicago takes two out of three.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/white-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/12/566884#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566884
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on May 14, 2019, 10:13:53 PM
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Zee on May 14, 2019, 10:21:22 PM
That was a bomb
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on May 14, 2019, 10:24:44 PM
Yeah like the deepest wall to go over.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 15, 2019, 03:51:19 AM
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Last game of two-game series.

Starting Pitchers:
Wednesday May 15  3:45pm
Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays  vs  TBD
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 15, 2019, 03:56:00 AM
Tuesdays results:

Jays won 7-3. Starter Thornton with the win and Guerrero Jr., with not one but two homers!



Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-giants/2019/05/14/566490#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566490 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-giants/2019/05/14/566490#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566490)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: herman on May 15, 2019, 07:19:59 AM

Im more impressed by opposite field hits, but this was very graceful contact.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 16, 2019, 01:12:06 AM
Jays lose 4-3 to San Fran.  Split series.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-giants/2019/05/15/566491#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566491
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 16, 2019, 01:20:05 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Thursday May 16  8pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-6  3.12 ERA  vs  Dylan Covey RH White Sox  0-2  5.91 ERA

Friday May 17  8pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays   3-4  3.75 ERA  vs  Ivan Nova RH White Sox  2-3  6.29 ERA

Saturday May 18  2pm
TBd  vs  Lucas Giolito RH White Sox  2-3  6.29 ERA

Sunday May 19  2pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  1-4  4.81 ERA   vs  Reynaldo Lopez  RH White Sox  3-4  5.58 ERA

All games on SN, SN1 & The FAN 590.


Sources:  MLB.com, theStar.com,  ESPN.com


The Blue Jays (17-25) visit Gauranteed Rate Park in Chicago for a four-game series against the White Sox (19-22).

The White Sox, or Chisox, are currently third in their A.L. Central Division, well within reach of the second place Cleveland Indians.

The Blue Jays are mired in fourth in their division and likely to stay there unless they can muster a winning streak and attempt to creep up.  With the Jays offence as unpredictable as a roller coaster, it will take heaven and earth for this team to start a serious push towards the upper echelons of the standings.

Of course, this isnt what is expectant of this young roster, (and getting younger at a later date), but to showcase a better offensive aptitude wouldnt hurt.

The good news for the Jays (& their fans) was to see Vladdy Guerrero Jr., rip em in San Francisco, a series split.
In fact, not only did we see Vladdy hit those two homers but up until that stretch, he had six hits in his ten at bats.  That sure felt good!

Why not some more?  Watching the Jays win and have their youngsters perform admirably in the process will make any a Jays fans day.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: TML fan on May 16, 2019, 11:18:45 PM
What the hell is the point of having a manager's challenge if they can just ask the umpires to check without a challenge?

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 17, 2019, 07:25:02 AM
What the hell is the point of having a manager's challenge if they can just ask the umpires to check without a challenge?


Good point, TML.  It can probably be looked at as some sort of safety valve and to give managers something to work with, some sort of leverage, impetus and input.

The chart in this link (2019 season so far) shows the nearly 300+ challenges of which approx. a little over 125 were overturned.  221 (approximate) of these were initiated by managers and  31 (approximate) by umpires.  73% (managers) vs 10% (umpires).


https://www.retrosheet.org/Replay.htm
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 17, 2019, 07:32:08 AM
The Stro Show was on full display as Jays starter Marcus  Stroman put forth a solid performance in striking out 6 and allowing only one earned run out of two in seven innings. Great, but the Jays once again wasted a fine mound performance in giving Stroman little to no offensive support, save for Galvis home run in the their 4-2 loss to the Chisox.

This lack of firepower has the Jays skipper Montoyo up in arms:

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I cant explain it, Montoyo said of the Jays hitting woes. Honestly, I didnt see it coming like this. Our bats have not been there for the last couple of weeks. Everybody sees it.

Better luck tonight, Charlie.

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/16/567284#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567284 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/16/567284#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567284)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 17, 2019, 07:45:28 AM
What does Vlad have to say?  Some musings from Guerrero Jr, (courtesy of T.O Sun):

The more big-league at-bats he takes, the more Guerrero appears to be comfortable and getting in a groove.

That has been particularly evident over the past handful of games as the celebrated Jays rookie gets in synch with major-league pitching.

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Its pretty much location, Guerrero said of the difference between what hes faced from arms in the majors versus triple-A. They hit the spots. Thats pretty much about it.

As for the upward trend in his offence, Guerrero said there were some kinks to be worked out the first couple of weeks as he made up for an abbreviated spring training.

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I was working on some little things with my swing, Guerrero said. Thank God everything is going well. I feel pretty good right now.

Some interesting Vladdy fast facts:

Guerrero has been particularly adept facing right-handers, taking a .282 average (11-for-39) into Thursdays game. Against southpaws, hes just 1-for-15 to start his big-league career.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 18, 2019, 01:19:29 AM
Thats more like it! 

The Blue Jays bats come to life and thump the Chisox 10-2, with Vladdy, Smoak, & Jansen hitting taters. 


Jays starter Aaron Sanchez left the game in the fourth inning having allowed three runs.  He was beset by blistered finger problems (again).  He was replaced by Sam Gaviglio who got the win, and Davy Guerra the save.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/17/567285#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567285 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/17/567285#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567285)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 18, 2019, 07:24:52 PM
Rain, rain, go away!


That Galvis is something!

Our new Superman?

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/18/567286#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567286
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 19, 2019, 10:01:40 PM
Nice day for home runs & some sunshine.

Jays hit three taters one each from McKinney, Guerrero, & Jansen.  Gain series split with the 5-2 win today.

Vladdys two-run shot that pulled the Jays ahead:



Jansens marvellous accuracy:


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-white-sox/2019/05/19/567287#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=567287
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 20, 2019, 09:23:46 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday May 20  1pm
David Price LH RedSox  1-2  3.75 ERA  vs  Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays  0-0  3.60 ERA

Tuesday May 21  7pm
Eduardo Rodriguez LH  Red Sox  4-2  4.89 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-6  2.95 ERA

Wednesday May 22  7pm
TBD(Red Sox)  vs  TBD Blue Jays)

Thursday May 23  12:30pm
Rick Purcells RH Red Sox  3-4  4.80 ERA  vs  TBD

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:  Sunsports,  MLB.com,  CBSsports


The Boston Red Sox (24-22) make their first trip of the season to the Rogers Centre to play a four-game series against the Blue Jays(19-27).

Things appear to be settling in place in the A.L. East as the NY Yankees now occupy first, having overtaken the Tampa Bay Rays for the honours.  The Bosox are in third, 4.5 GBL New York.   Looks like all is finally clicking for Boston after a slow, sluggish start to the season.

The Blue Jays?  Theyre just trying for respectability as they sit mired in fourth spot with a woefully anemic offence that sits 28th with a paltry .220 AV.  Their OBP ranks them 27th.  For comparison, Boston ranks sixth.

Not all is doom and gloom for the Blue Jays.  Some of the hitters are shining, namely Vladdy Guerrero Jr., who in his last eight games has hit a raucous .370 with three home runs and nine RBIs.  Not bad for a kid who came out swinging at strikeouts in his first few Major League at-bats.  Way to go, Vlad!  If only the rest of the Jays could pick up on that...

Does Aaron Sanchezs recurring blistered finger problems bring out the dj vu again?  Sanchez is determined not to let this rule his season.  Hopefully thats true.

Forget the negatives, focus on the positives.  The Jays should be plenty motivated to sink their teeth into their collective bats, display some fireworks of their own, and give Boston a run for the bases.

Cmon!

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: sickbeast on May 20, 2019, 07:58:32 PM
I was at the game today.  Such a disappointment to not see Vladdy Jr. play.  Too bad.  The Jays need pitching badly.  And I'm starting to feel like the heat is going to start to be put on Atkins and Shapiro.  I'm not convinced that this rebuild is going to come to fruition properly.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 20, 2019, 08:18:23 PM
I was at the game today.  Such a disappointment to not see Vladdy Jr. play.  Too bad.  The Jays need pitching badly.  And I'm starting to feel like the heat is going to start to be put on Atkins and Shapiro.  I'm not convinced that this rebuild is going to come to fruition properly.

You literally spent all off-season saying those two should be fired.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: sickbeast on May 20, 2019, 08:32:54 PM
I was at the game today.  Such a disappointment to not see Vladdy Jr. play.  Too bad.  The Jays need pitching badly.  And I'm starting to feel like the heat is going to start to be put on Atkins and Shapiro.  I'm not convinced that this rebuild is going to come to fruition properly.

You literally spent all off-season saying those two should be fired.
I don't see your point.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 20, 2019, 10:22:39 PM
I was at the game today.  Such a disappointment to not see Vladdy Jr. play.  Too bad.  The Jays need pitching badly.  And I'm starting to feel like the heat is going to start to be put on Atkins and Shapiro.  I'm not convinced that this rebuild is going to come to fruition properly.


That decision (on not letting Vladdy play] irked a lot of people.


https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-fans-irate-over-vlad-jrs-benching-victoria-day-224233566.html (https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/blue-jays-fans-irate-over-vlad-jrs-benching-victoria-day-224233566.html)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Nik the Trik on May 20, 2019, 10:29:05 PM
It would do well to remind (Americans) Shapiro & Atkins what the long weekend meant

Atkins and Shapiro should not be influencing day to day lineup decisions regardless of what country they're from and there's nothing to suggest they did. It's Montoyo's job to set the lineup.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 21, 2019, 12:20:55 AM
Perhaps this explains it better...still...

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Weve got a set deal, he needs to get a day off, Charlie Montoyo said before a 12-2 pummelling from the Red Sox. Everybody is going to get a day off, anyway, 16 straight days, so today was Vlads.

Thats weak and, despite his protestations that it was a collective coaching decision, its not on Montoyo, as theres no way a baseball man with his experience and feel would make this call. The Blue Jays have delved into sports science as aggressively as anyone in baseball since Mark Shapiro took over as president and CEO after the 2015 season, and sitting Guerrero because its his day sounds far more like a high-performance department thing.

Yeah, probably.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/mlb/frustrating-questions-arise-blue-jays-sit-vlad-guerrero-jr-holiday/
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 22, 2019, 03:53:46 AM
Jays win 10-3 over the Red Sox.  Rowdy Tellez had two homers to go with his 5 RBIs, As Jays starter Marcus Stroman was dominant and received offensive support.  Combine the two and its dino-mite!

More on the above:  Presenting the Stro show...



Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/red-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/21/566886#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566886 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/red-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/21/566886#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566886)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 23, 2019, 06:31:19 AM
Jays lose 6-5 to the Red Sox in 13 innings.  Despite that, there were a few records set Vladdy hitting his first home run at home and also making a defensive diving catch, and Rowdy Tellezs clutch home run that tied the game and his thirteenth of the year which placed him in the Jays record books.

Up, up, and away...


A Vladdy great catch!

Rowdy! Rowdy!


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Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: OldTimeHockey on May 23, 2019, 09:32:07 AM




That's not exactly elite company.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 23, 2019, 05:50:35 PM
Sunny but windy day and a drab outcome for the Jays as they lose 8-2 to the Bosox.  Boston takes three out of four.  Bah!

Jays starter Clayton Richards made his debut and pitched reasonable well for a guy who had previously been out a lengthy time on the IL.  Richardss four innings allowed just one run and he had good ball control.

Reliever Sam Gaviglio took the loss.

Other than that, maybe this can brighten up your Jay day...Vladdy!


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/red-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/23/566888#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566888 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/red-sox-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/23/566888#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566888)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 24, 2019, 05:29:35 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday May 24  7pm
Joey Lucchesi LH Padres  3-3  4.28 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton LH Blue Jays   1-4  4.41 ERA

Saturday May 25  3pm
Cal Quantrill RH Padres   0-2  5.40 ERA  vs  Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays   0-1  6.30 ERA

Sunday May 26  1pm
Chris Paddack RH Padres  4-2  1.93 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  1-6  2.95 ERA

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:   MLB.com,  CBssports,  ESPN.com


The San Diego Padres (25-22) visit the Rogers Centre in a three-game interleague series against the Blue Jays (20-30).

The Padres are 3.5GBL Chicago Cubs in the N.L.Central.  The Padres made headlines in the off-season when they signed FA Manny Machado, also known as the $300M man.
The Padres rank ninth in pitching ERA (the Jays are now tenth)  and are fourth in the WHIP column (the Jays are thirteenth).

Toronto needs to generate way more offence as they sit mired in 28th place (.220 AVG).  The Padres arent much better coming in at 24 (.228 AVG)

The Jays could definitely use more Smoakin homers.

This series could see the return of Lourdes Gurriel Jr., and the promotion of prospect Cavan Biggio, both from Buffalo Triple A.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 25, 2019, 12:21:10 AM
It was a night of firsts even though the Jays lost 6-3 to the Padres.

First this:

Lourdes Gurriel Jr., hit a solo homer in the fifth, his first since being recalled from Triple A Buffalo, along with Freddy Galvis two-run shot which ignited the Jays comeback from a 3-0 deficit.

Jays starter Trent Thornton had allowed the three runs and up to the sixth inning, had struck out ten in the process.  Not a very bad night for Thornton.
Reliever Daniel Hudson took the loss in giving up three runs (two earned) in the eighth.



Now this:




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https://www.mlb.com/gameday/padres-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/24/566889#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566889 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/padres-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/24/566889#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566889)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 25, 2019, 07:17:22 PM
Not worth even mentioning.  Forgettable game!


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/padres-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/25/566890#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566890
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 25, 2019, 07:29:22 PM
This just got uglier:

Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 26, 2019, 07:25:01 PM
Great day for Cavan Biggio & Lourdes Gurriel as the Blue Jays thump the Padres 10-1.

The Jays hit long bombs all afternoon in the form of Biggio, Gurriel, and Smoak who finished the game with 5 RBIs.  What a day at the Rogers Centre giving Jays fans much to celebrate, a day after the basketball Raptors clinched their way to the NBA finals.  What a winning weekend!!

jays prospect Cavan Biggios three-hit game (includes his first-ever big league homer):


...and...


Lourdes-y, Lourdes-y, Lourdes-y:


Holy Smoak!




Jays starter Marcus Stroman couldnt complain today with all the offensive support his teammates provided, as he got the win in five innings of work.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/padres-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/26/566891#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566891 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/padres-vs-blue-jays/2019/05/26/566891#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566891)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 27, 2019, 08:11:01 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Monday May 27  1pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-4  3.79 ERA  vs  Yonny Chirinos RH Rays  5-1  3.20 ERA

Tuesday May 28  7pm
Clayton Richard RH Blue Jays   0-0  2.25 ERA  vs  TBD

Wednesday May 30 7 pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays   1-4  4.52 ERA  vs  Blake Snell RH Rays  3-4  3.07 ERA

All games on SN / SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:   MLB.com,  theStar.com,   CBSsports


The Blue Jays (21-32) come to Tropicana Field for a three-game series against the Tampa Bay Rays (31-19).

The Rays are in second place in the A.L. East, 2.0 GBL NY Yankees.  There was a time not so long ago earlier in the season when Tampa Bay was in first place. 
The Boston Red Sox are gaining steam and arent too far behind the Rays, nestled in third.

Then there are the Blue Jays, mired in fourth and a ridiculous 13.5 GBL Yankees.  Ah, but this isnt supposed to be a race to the top for Toronto, but rather a semi-slow, at times painful rebuild.

The Jays newest prospect call up was young Cavan Biggio who impressed in their series against the Padres, particularly in Sundays victory over San Diego, where Biggio had three hits including his first major league home run. 

Its taking time for the Jays young arms to come to the fore, but when they do showcase their much vaunted talents, its what makes for excitement for the faithful that follow the Jays.  Patience and plenty of playing time are the key to development & skill.

Of course theres always a player that makes the most of his chances, call that a second chance for the just recalled Lourdes Gurriel Jr., from Triple A Buffalo, going 6 for 10 (four RBIs and three home runs) in the span of three games.

While the Jays bats provided meagre offence in their most current series against the Padres, Sundays finale was a welcome relief and no doubt performances such as Gurriels during this stretch much-needed.

Lets hope this continues.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 28, 2019, 03:00:56 AM
Jays lose 8-3 to the Rays.

Good news as Toronto CF Jonathan Davis hit his first major league home run, a two-run shot.


Now the not so good news...Jays starter Aaron Sanchezs blistered finger problems erupted this time with a torn fingernail:


By the third inning, Sanchez was done.  He allowed one run on six hits.  He took the loss.
The Jays relievers didnt provide much relief as the Rays racked up the score off of Jacob Waguespack, Gaviglio, & Rosscup.   Waguespack, who was the most call up from Triple A Buffalo, struck out an impressive seven batters in his first stint in the majors.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rays/2019/05/27/566688#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566688 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rays/2019/05/27/566688#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566688)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 29, 2019, 11:50:41 AM
Once again the offence was invisible as the Jays lost 3-1 to the Rays last night.

Ho hum.  Yet another example of lack of offensive and defensive support for a Jays starter, namely Clayton Richard.

Of course, the Rays can thank Grichuk partially for that:

https://torontosun.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/flop-at-the-trop-sloppy-blue-jays-fall-to-rays-in-front-of-a-record-low-crowd
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 30, 2019, 02:17:25 PM
Jays lose 4-3 and are swept three-zip by the Rays. 

Even though the Jays took the lead, they had some early pitching trouble and offensively couldnt add to their total as the Rays made good on their chances to finally surge ahead after 11 innings. 

Stranding a collective total of 16 RISP goes to show the meagre offence once again.

At least, there were some shining moments such as...

Jonathan Davis:  Superman II

Cant outrun em:


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rays/2019/05/29/566690#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566690 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rays/2019/05/29/566690#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566690)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 30, 2019, 02:57:05 PM
Please, do not remind us.  😐

Oh so (painfully) true...

https://montrealgazette.com/sports/baseball/toronto-blue-jays/reeling-blue-jays-on-pace-for-worst-record-in-four-decades/wcm/844d4f83-18a9-42af-b4c7-37e93f77178b
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on May 31, 2019, 04:06:17 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday May 31  8:30pm
Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays   0-2  9.00 ERA  vs  German Marquez RH Rockies   5-2  3.56 ERA

Saturday June 1  9pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays   3-6  2.74 ERA  vs   Jon Gray RH Rockies   4-4  4.62 ERA

Sunday June 2  8pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-5  3.75 ERA  vs   Antonio Senzatela RH Rockies  3-4  5.81 ERA

All games on SN/SN1 &The FAN 590.


Source:  baseball-reference.com,  MLB.com,  ESPN.com


The Blue Jays (21-35) visit Coors Field in Denver, Colorado for the first time this season for a three-game interleague series against the Colorado Rockies (27-27).

The Rockies are third in the N.L. West, 9 GBL Los Angeles Dodgers.  Colorado is on a four-game winning streak.

The Blue Jays are struggling offensively and its palpable. The Blue Jays have lost seven of their last eight games, and the times they reek of a team desperate for some wins at least.  Even though skipper Montoyo preaches patience especially in light of the fact that the teams prospects need all the playing time they can muster in order to further their familiarity at the major league level, even so, the mounting losses certainly dont enliven the atmosphere.

A little bit of Rocky Mountain air may do.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 01, 2019, 06:15:56 AM
Just another typical game for the Blue Jays in a 13-6 whitewash at the hands of the Rockies. 

Jays starter Edwin Jackson lasted all of two innings having allowed a massive ten runs.  Very inconsistent pitching here.  Jackson took the loss as he is now 0-3 since having joined the Jays via trade.

Even so, there were a few standout moments in this game for the Jays.  Lets have a l
ook...

Superman II:

Vladdy!

Congrats, Randall:

My Lourdes, does he ever!


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rockies/2019/05/31/565442#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565442 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-rockies/2019/05/31/565442#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=565442)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 02, 2019, 06:23:39 PM
Jays get swept by the Rockies with todays 5-1 loss.

Looks like Jays starter Aaron Sanchez pitched for six innings and allowed four runs, but what is telling here is that he stuck around until the sixth which means that the blistered finger/nail problem was under control somewhat.



Saturday the Jays came close to tying it but fell short of the mark ending up on the losing end of a 4-2 game.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 04, 2019, 09:11:32 PM
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Starting  Pitchers:
Tuesday June 4  7pm
Masahiro Tanaka RH Yankees  3-4  3.20 ERA  vs  Clayton Richard LH Blue Jays  0-1  3.38 ERA

Wednesday June 5  7pm
James Paxton LH Yankees  3-2  2.81 ERA  vs  Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  1-4  4.53 ERA

Thursday June 6  7pm
J.A. Happ LH Yankees  5-3  4.83 ERA  vs  Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays  0-3  13.22 ERA

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:  theStar.com,  MLB.com,  CBSsports


The New York Yankees (38-20) make their first trip north to face the Blue Jays (21-38) in a three-game series.

The Yankees are tops in the A.L. East, 2.5 games ahead of second place Tampa Bay Rays, and 8.5 games ahead of the third place Red Sox.
The Yankees are without several injured players namely Aaron Judge, Giancarlo Stanton, as well as pitcher Luis Severino.  Despite that, New York boasts enough firepower and stable arms in gaining the fourth best w/l record in the majors.

The Blue Jays w/l column is distinctly the opposite of that of the Yankees, as the Jays lack of firepower has derailed fair pitching.  Justin Smoak is one Jay whos currently wielding a hot bat keeping his six-game hitting streak going.

Jays fans will be seeing a couple of former Jays the likes of J.A.Happ & Kendrys Morales.

Everybody wants to beat the best and this series provides Toronto with the opportunity to do just that.  Cmon Blue Jays, show em!

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 05, 2019, 12:16:25 AM
Thats more like it!

Blue Jays defeat Yankees 4-3 and break six-game losing skid. 
The Jays exploded for four runs in the fifth inning upon trailing 2-0, on Grichuks solo home run, Galvis two-run shot, and Guerreros RBI single.


Jays starter Clayton Richard pitched for four innings allowing two runs.
The win went to Thomas Pannone.  Giles closed out for the save.

Some timely defence:



Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/04/566892#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566892 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/04/566892#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566892)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 06, 2019, 06:54:17 AM
Ooh, those long bombs!

Vladdy Guerrero Jr.s three-run homer pulled the Blue Jays ahead in the eighth inning to an eventual 11-7 victory over the Yankees.


Teoscar Hernandezs triple in the seventh inning narrowed the Yankees lead by one run (7-6)...until Vladdys histrionics in the eighth.


Grichuk & Drury also hit solo homers in that five run eighth inning.

Grichuk actually had two homers on the night hitting his first, a two-run home run in the first inning, giving the Jays the lead.


Jays starter Trent Thornton got rocked for four runs in five innings and reliever Derek Law didnt fare any better giving up three in the sixth inning.
Reliever Sam Gaviglio kept everything steady on the mound thereafter and got the win.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/05/566893#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566893 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/05/566893#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566893)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 07, 2019, 01:46:15 AM
Blue Jays tried for the sweep but J.A. Happ & the Yankees denied them the chance in winning 6-2.

Jays starter Edwin Jackson just can't seem to get luck on his side, as he allowed six run (two earned) and ended up with the loss.  He is now 0-4 on the year.

At least, Jays fans had this to look forward to:

Honouring D-Day heroes:

Jays Eric Sogard continues to impress with his .290 BA and .846 OBPS.


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/yankees-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/06/566894#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566894
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 07, 2019, 10:21:48 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday June 7  7pm
Merrill Kelly RH Diamondbacks  5-6  4.41 ERA  vs  Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  3-7  2.84 ERA

Saturday June 8  3pm
Zack Greinke RH Diamondbacks  6-2  3.09 ERA  vs  Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-6  3.95 ERA

Sunday June 9  1pm
Robbie Ray LH Diamondbacks   4-3  3.62 ERA   vs  Clayton Eichard LH Blue Jays  0-1  3.55 ERA

All games on SN & The FAN 590.


Source:  Sunsports,  MLB.com,  ESPN.com


The Arizona Diamondbacks (31-32) come to the Rogers Centre for a three-game interleague series against the Blue Jays (23-39).

Arizona sits fourth in the N.L. West, 12 GBL Los Angeles Dodgers.  What started out as a promising season for the Diamondbacks has turned out to be a near .500 level.  The saving grace for Arizona is that they are 2.5 GB for the WC spot.

For the Blue Jays, they come off having taken two out of three from the Yankees in their most recent series.  The Jays, as everyone knows, are for want of a lack of offensive power.  Only three Jays are outperforming the rest Eric Sogard (849 OPS), Justin Smoak (.829 OPS), and Gurriel Jr., (.740 OPS).  The rest?  Go figure.

The Diamondbacks sport the best throwing arms   fielding % at .880 in the N.L.  Also, they sit 8th in runs scored  and are 9th in the ERA department. 

The Jays at one point earlier in the season sat third in the ERA department, but now they sit seventeenth.  Compared to Arizona, Toronto sports among the worst BA in the clubs history (.220) as well as being at or near the bottom with the third worst OPs (.640) in the A.L.
Their run production sits at a paltry 27th.

All that said, how can the Jays improve?  Well, not for want of a lack of bats, but certainly for not simply improving enough.  The Jays youngsters Guerrero, Biggio, Jansen need to continue to adapt to the learning curve of ball hitting but that doesnt exclude anyone else on the roster, not when names such as Maille, Grichuk, Hernandez, Tellez, etc., dont show up either. 

Whatever goes down comes up again and vice versa.  So for the Blue Jays, the offence should show up better eventually.

Hope so.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 09, 2019, 01:58:46 AM
Coupled with the 8-3 loss to the Diamondbacks Friday, and Saturdays 6-0 drubbing, the Blue Jays run production is as dry as the Arizona desert.

Two measly runs, while letting the opposition amass fourteen.  Well, well see if they can close out the series with at least a win Sunday and better pitching, please.

Jays starter Aaron Sanchez was terrible giving up five runs in six innings Saturday, just like Marcus Stroman who gave up six runs in five innings Friday.

Blech!

Hi-lites & more: (Friday)
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/d-backs-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/07/566895#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566895

Hi-lites & more: (Saturday)
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/d-backs-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/08/566896#game_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566896
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 09, 2019, 06:54:20 PM
Diamondbacks complete the sweep beating the Jays this afternoon 8-2.

Jays starter Clayton Richard was clobbered with seven runs in two+ innings.

Some good fielding plays:



Gurriel homer:


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/d-backs-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/09/566897#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566897 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/d-backs-vs-blue-jays/2019/06/09/566897#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=566897)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: Highlander on June 10, 2019, 09:16:22 AM
Looks like we have finally found our Centerfielder
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 11, 2019, 02:15:19 PM
Looks like we have finally found our Centerfielder


Looks like Gurriel is for keeps this time.  That stint in Buffalo certainly served him in good stead.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: bustaheims on June 11, 2019, 02:27:15 PM
Looks like we have finally found our Centerfielder


Looks like Gurriel is for keeps this time.  That stint in Buffalo certainly served him in good stead.

He hasn't played a single inning at CF in the majors.
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 11, 2019, 02:36:17 PM
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Starting Pitchers:
Tuesday June 11  7pm
Trent Thoenton RH Blue Jays  1-4  4.73 ERA  vs  John Means LH Orioles  5-4  2.67 ERA 

Wednesday June 12  7pm
Edwin Jackson RH Blue Jays  0-4  11.90 ERA  vs  David Hess RH Orioles  1-8  7.90 ERA

Thursday June 13  7pm
Marcus Stroman RH Blue Jays  3-8  3.31 ERA  vs  TBD

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:  MLB.com,  ESPN.com,  theStar.com


The Blue Jays (23-42) venture to Oriole Park at Camden Yards in Baltimore for a three-game series against the Orioles (20-45).

Both the Orioles and the Blue Jays are cellar-dwelling teams in their respective division, The A.L. East, with the Jays occupying fourth and the Orioles dead-last.  Their w/l records are near-identical and both teams offence has been called into question this year.

Baltimore is just slightly better than the Jays in the offensive department in terms of runs scored the Machado-less Orioles sit at 13th (261) while Toronto is 14th (242).

Rumours have been swirling that the Jays may trade both Stroman and Sanchez (and anyone else in-between), and as much as this distresses the teams followers, it may very well be the case.  Obviously, thats what comes with a complete rebuild.  Well see about that when it happens, if it does.

For now, lets get some much-needed wins.

GO jAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 11, 2019, 02:47:29 PM
Looks like we have finally found our Centerfielder


Looks like Gurriel is for keeps this time.  That stint in Buffalo certainly served him in good stead.

He hasn't played a single inning at CF in the majors.


No, its not Gurriel.  My bad.

Jonathan Davis is our CF currently in Triple A (a roster move due to recall of Teoscar Hernandez).   

As for Davis highlight-reel catches...
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 12, 2019, 12:49:19 AM
Jays lose 4-2 to the Os. 

Some fancy stats:

The Jays struck out thirteen times in this game.  Some offence, eh?

Jays starter Trent Thornton, the master strikeout artist who leads all Jays pitchers with 73 strikeouts, suffered the loss allowing three runs in five innings.  Though he pitched well, once again for the upteenth time, received little offensive support.

Skipper Montoyo, ever the optimist.  Try convincing Jays fans...

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2019/06/11/564962#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564962 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2019/06/11/564962#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564962)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 13, 2019, 03:56:03 AM
Mercy!

Jays bats finally come back to life as they defeat the Orioles 8-6.

Rowdy Tellezs Grand Slam pulled the Jays ahead in the fifth inning. 


Even though the Jays were ahead 8-2 by the eighth inning, the Orioles had closed the gap to 8-6, thanks to some lousy bullpen relief pitching by the likes of Luciano, Biagini, and Mayza. 
Daniel Hudson closed out the ninth for the save.  Whew.

Jays starter Edwin Jackson got the win, his first in five tries.  He allowed two runs in five innings but pitched nonetheless well.

The game featured the pitching debut of Italo-Canadian Markhams own Jordan Romano. 


Vlad time!

Rowdy!

Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2019/06/12/564963#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564963 (https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2019/06/12/564963#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564963)
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 14, 2019, 06:52:23 AM
Wowza!

The Blue Jays belted out 17 hits enroute to a 12-3 drubbing of the Orioles.

Cavan Biggio hit not one but two homers, and Gurriel also hit a solo.  Toronto exploded for seven runs in the fifth to put the game out of reach.

Jays starter Marcus Stroman pitched six innings, allowing one run and striking out six., and got the win.

Highlights:

Biggio:  Part 1:

Biggio: Part 2:

Gurriel!

Offensive juggernaut!


Hi-lites & more:
https://www.mlb.com/gameday/blue-jays-vs-orioles/2019/06/13/564964#game_state=final,lock_state=final,game_tab=videos,game=564964
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 14, 2019, 08:20:50 AM
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Starting Pitchers:
Friday June 14  8pm
Aaron Sanchez RH Blue Jays  3-7  4.25 ERA  vs  Gerrit Cole RH Astros   5-5  3.72 ERA

Saturday June 15  4pm
Clayton Richard LH Blue Jays   0-2  7.04 ERA  vs  Framber Valdez LH Astros  2-2  2.73 ERA

Sunday June 16  2pm
Trent Thornton RH Blue Jays  1-5  4.78 ERA vs  TBD

All games on SN/SN1 & The FAN 590.


Source:  Sunsports,  MLB.com,  CBSSports


The Blue Jays (25-43) visit Minute Maid Park for a three-game series against the Houston Astros (46-23).

The Astros are first in the A.L. West division, 9.5 games ahead of their second-place rivals the Texas Rangers.

The Astros sport the second-best batting average in the majors .265.  They also are third in OBP (.340), and carry the third-best ERA (3.52).
Not to mention they are fourth in HRs (110), and first in the WHIP category (1.08).
They have given up the fewest strikeouts but they among the leaders for the base-on-balls category. 

While the Minnesota Twins have the best w/l record in the A.L., the Astros are second-best, over the third-best Yankees.  Actually, to put it another way, Houston is tied with the Dodgers for the second-best overall major league w/l record.

Lots of accolades for the Astros here, eh?

The Blue Jays won their most recent series against the Baltimore Orioles taking two out of three.  Their bats came alive in the last two wins of that series.  A relief no doubt for both the team and its fans who were beginning to think that the Jays offence went splat.  At least they showed that yes, they do have firepower...and how!

A .219 BA is among the worst in the league and not something to crow about, no, not at all.  It has become disgraceful and pathetic to watch this struggling team muster some runs for its hard-working starting pitchers.

Well, lets hope that it is the start of something positive.

This series will feature the brothers Yuri Gurriel (Houston) and Lourdes Gurriel Jr., (Jays) who are both playing very well as of late with Lourdes hitting .348 in his last six games, and a role in the Jays offence.

GO JAYS GO!
Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 14, 2019, 11:41:27 PM
Jays flunk out against the Astros 15-2.  Dont ask.

Concern of the night Vladdy hit by pitch (hand) but everything has been deemed okay (nothing broken) just a bruise:


Meanwhile, it was a nightmare outing for Jays starter Aaron Sanchez.  He lasted three innings and allowed eight runs.  Something definitely to forget.

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Title: Re: 2019 Blue Jays General Discussion Thread
Post by: hockeyfan1 on June 15, 2019, 06:56:33 PM
Why, that sinking feeling...


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