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Title: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 03, 2016, 10:04:26 PM
Freddie has earned his own thread, here we go!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: sneakyray on November 04, 2016, 12:00:34 AM
David Alter ‏@dalter  1h1 hour ago
Frederik Andersen in last 4 starts: 3-1-0, .954 sv % and 1.77 GAA. #Leafs
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: No.92 on November 05, 2016, 10:50:32 PM
David Alter ‏@dalter  1h1 hour ago
Frederik Andersen in last 4 starts: 3-1-0, .954 sv % and 1.77 GAA. #Leafs

I hope we can put to rest the questions about his ability and try to cheer him on.  Yes it's still early but I believe it's different than in the past.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 05, 2016, 11:31:41 PM
Some people are so temperamental, the nature of a goalie's save percentage is that they rarely play at the same level, it's a mixture of peaks and valleys.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: LuncheonMeat on November 06, 2016, 01:39:34 AM
David Alter ‏@dalter  1h1 hour ago
Frederik Andersen in last 4 starts: 3-1-0, .954 sv % and 1.77 GAA. #Leafs

I hope we can put to rest the questions about his ability and try to cheer him on.  Yes it's still early but I believe it's different than in the past.

There are only a few Henny Pennys around these parts. The rest of us have been chillin' with Foxy Loxy.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: TBLeafer on November 16, 2016, 01:52:50 PM
Its Andersen vs Reimer tomorrow.

Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 30, 2016, 01:54:19 AM
Steady Freddy quietly assembling a body of work.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on November 30, 2016, 09:05:00 AM
Let us immortalize this great moment when Hunwick tried to go 5-hole on Freddie, but got shut down with a leg sweep.
https://streamable.com/nxa5
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on November 30, 2016, 09:51:31 AM
http://ingoalmag.com/news/shifting-depths-frederik-andersen/

A must read.

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Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 30, 2016, 10:00:22 AM
Good to see Freddy get into a groove.  I admittedly didn't know anything about him since he played out in Anaheim and very rarely got to see him play, looks like the Leafs made a good choice.  Hope his play keeps up.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on November 30, 2016, 10:11:15 AM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: RedLeaf on November 30, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
If the deal to bring Andersen to the Leafs is Lou's biggest contribution as Leaf GM when he retires in a year or two and highlights his legacy as Leafs GM, it may have been worth his hiring alone. Of course that all depends on how well Freddie does long term in Toronto. But right now, Lou (and whoever else was involved in that deal) are looking like a geniuses.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on November 30, 2016, 10:27:22 AM
Let us immortalize this great moment when Hunwick tried to go 5-hole on Freddie, but got shut down with a leg sweep.
https://streamable.com/nxa5

As Hunwick can't score on the opposition it looks like he was trying one on the home side. Almost a home goal there Matty!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 30, 2016, 10:28:27 AM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
If the deal to bring Andersen to the Leafs is Lou's biggest contribution as Leaf GM when he retires in a year or two and highlights his legacy as Leafs GM, it may have been worth his hiring alone. Of course that all depends on how well Freddie does long term in Toronto. But right now, Lou (and whoever else was involved in that deal) are looking like a geniuses.

It's early still.  Andersen wasn't as bad as he looked in the first couple of weeks and he's probably not as good as he currently is playing.  I hope I'm wrong and he continues to play great, but I suspect he'll be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: RedLeaf on November 30, 2016, 10:37:12 AM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
If the deal to bring Andersen to the Leafs is Lou's biggest contribution as Leaf GM when he retires in a year or two and highlights his legacy as Leafs GM, it may have been worth his hiring alone. Of course that all depends on how well Freddie does long term in Toronto. But right now, Lou (and whoever else was involved in that deal) are looking like a geniuses.

It's early still.  Andersen wasn't as bad as he looked in the first couple of weeks and he's probably not as good as he currently is playing.  I hope I'm wrong and he continues to play great, but I suspect he'll be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.

Normally I'd agree with that line of thinking, but there were pretty good reasons why he played poorly to start the season. He came to camp injured and didn't have a full camp. He was starting with a new team and new coach with new systems in front of him. Sure he may be playing above the bar a little now , but I think it's much closer to what he'll be than what the start of the season would indicate.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 30, 2016, 12:07:15 PM
Whether he keeps it up or falls back somewhere in the middle, i think it's clear he's a legitimate starter in this league.  We haven't had that assurance since Belfour.

(But a hat-tip to the Monster last night ... he's settled in as a pretty good backup.)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 30, 2016, 12:28:06 PM
Yeah, read the article. It explains everything. Gone are the rush out challenges into the white ice where he's still moving. He stops and sets now at the top of the blue ice and waits. It's like night and day.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 30, 2016, 12:31:56 PM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
If the deal to bring Andersen to the Leafs is Lou's biggest contribution as Leaf GM when he retires in a year or two and highlights his legacy as Leafs GM, it may have been worth his hiring alone. Of course that all depends on how well Freddie does long term in Toronto. But right now, Lou (and whoever else was involved in that deal) are looking like a geniuses.

It's early still.  Andersen wasn't as bad as he looked in the first couple of weeks and he's probably not as good as he currently is playing.  I hope I'm wrong and he continues to play great, but I suspect he'll be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.

Normally I'd agree with that line of thinking, but there were pretty good reasons why he played poorly to start the season. He came to camp injured and didn't have a full camp. He was starting with a new team and new coach with new systems in front of him. Sure he may be playing above the bar a little now , but I think it's much closer to what he'll be than what the start of the season would indicate.

All valid points to his slow start, I didn't give the injury and the new environment enough weight.  Still though, his November numbers would put him as a top 10 goalie in the league, not sure if he's that good.  I hope he is :)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: RedLeaf on November 30, 2016, 11:49:36 PM
I guess we have to admit, Lou knows good goaltenders
If the deal to bring Andersen to the Leafs is Lou's biggest contribution as Leaf GM when he retires in a year or two and highlights his legacy as Leafs GM, it may have been worth his hiring alone. Of course that all depends on how well Freddie does long term in Toronto. But right now, Lou (and whoever else was involved in that deal) are looking like a geniuses.

It's early still.  Andersen wasn't as bad as he looked in the first couple of weeks and he's probably not as good as he currently is playing.  I hope I'm wrong and he continues to play great, but I suspect he'll be somewhere in the middle of the two extremes.

Normally I'd agree with that line of thinking, but there were pretty good reasons why he played poorly to start the season. He came to camp injured and didn't have a full camp. He was starting with a new team and new coach with new systems in front of him. Sure he may be playing above the bar a little now , but I think it's much closer to what he'll be than what the start of the season would indicate.

All valid points to his slow start, I didn't give the injury and the new environment enough weight.  Still though, his November numbers would put him as a top 10 goalie in the league, not sure if he's that good.  I hope he is :)

So do I!  ;)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Bullfrog on December 01, 2016, 08:10:08 AM
http://ingoalmag.com/news/shifting-depths-frederik-andersen/

A must read.
...

pfft. Zero shutouts.  :P
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on December 01, 2016, 08:45:46 AM
http://ingoalmag.com/news/shifting-depths-frederik-andersen/

A must read.
...

pfft. Zero shutouts.  :P

Way to jinx it for Saturday.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on December 01, 2016, 10:51:05 AM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on December 01, 2016, 10:54:44 AM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Nik the Trik on December 01, 2016, 11:09:48 AM

Bibeau isn't even putting up good numbers in the AHL.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on December 01, 2016, 11:14:04 AM
Enroth has only played the number of games it took for Andersen to start turning his game around after a slow start. I won't write him off just yet.

And even if he continues to not be great, better draft pick.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on December 01, 2016, 01:37:42 PM
Enroth has only played the number of games it took for Andersen to start turning his game around after a slow start. I won't write him off just yet.

And even if he continues to not be great, better draft pick.

The problem is the games are spread out.  When Andersen worked through his issues he got to start every 2nd or 3rd day.  Enroth gets in there once a week if that.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Nik the Trik on December 01, 2016, 01:49:25 PM
The problem is the games are spread out.  When Andersen worked through his issues he got to start every 2nd or 3rd day.  Enroth gets in there once a week if that.

I don't think that fundamentally changes the point which is that it's a very small sample size and Enroth has proven himself to be relatively competent backup in the past. Provided the expectations for him are realistic there's really no need to jump to any conclusion on him yet.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: wnc096 on December 01, 2016, 03:51:08 PM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.

I was at the game last night behind the net...Enroth looks like a child in net...he is so small.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 01, 2016, 04:38:29 PM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.

I was at the game last night behind the net...Enroth looks like a child in net...he is so small.

Aw, sorry you got that one instead of the Edmonton performance dude. That's pro sports man.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: wnc096 on December 01, 2016, 05:08:43 PM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.

I was at the game last night behind the net...Enroth looks like a child in net...he is so small.

Aw, sorry you got that one instead of the Edmonton performance dude. That's pro sports man.

Calgary has been a graveyard for the Leafs...they've won here like once in the last 10 years
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 02, 2016, 01:06:10 AM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.

I was at the game last night behind the net...Enroth looks like a child in net...he is so small.

Aw, sorry you got that one instead of the Edmonton performance dude. That's pro sports man.

Calgary has been a graveyard for the Leafs...they've won here like once in the last 10 years

Better times are ahead, in a few years they'll be dominating so much it'll be embarrassing.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on December 02, 2016, 08:29:10 AM
Frederik has been great since his early games, one wonders if Sparks or Bibeau could have done a better job than Enroth. Not to impressed with him

I had higher hopes for Enroth.   Buffalo had to trade him away that McDavid draft year because he was playing too well and keeping Buffalo in games, he's not what he once was.

I was at the game last night behind the net...Enroth looks like a child in net...he is so small.

Aw, sorry you got that one instead of the Edmonton performance dude. That's pro sports man.

Calgary has been a graveyard for the Leafs...they've won here like once in the last 10 years

It doesn't help that many times the Leafs play Calgary on the 2nd leg of a back to back.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on December 02, 2016, 09:50:01 AM
With the way our chances against is trending/has always been, this kid is in line to be our next goalie: http://m.mnhockeyhub.com/news_article/show/728662
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on December 02, 2016, 11:43:34 AM
Lets sign him up. When will he be draft eligable
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on December 02, 2016, 12:17:02 PM
Lets sign him up. When will he be draft eligable

If it wasn't this year, it should be next year. He's a 1998 baby (no other birth information on EliteProspects).
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on December 02, 2016, 12:19:30 PM
http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/12/2/13776238/frederik-andersen-and-his-october-troubles-toronto-maple-leafs-goalie

Solid, solid dive into Andersen's October games for your lunch/breaktime read.

Even if you don't want to read the whole thing, it's worth clicking just to watch the Corey Schneider video explaining VH and rVH save selections.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 16, 2016, 10:31:34 AM
Mr. Andersen's SV% since the first 5 games: .932

We don't even make it to these shootouts if it weren't for steady Freddie!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on December 16, 2016, 10:32:57 AM
Mr. Andersen's SV% since the first 5 games: .932

We don't even make it to these shootouts if it weren't for steady Freddie!

He sure is playing well.  Best sustained goaltending for the Leafs in a long while.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 16, 2016, 10:52:53 AM
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Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 24, 2016, 09:46:28 AM
After a Vesa Toskala-like debut, Frederik Andersen enters the Christmas break with a 2.49 GAA and .923 SV% for the season. He has allowed 2 goals or less in 13 of his last 15 starts.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on December 24, 2016, 10:27:40 AM
and only 1 in his last two. He impressed the heck out of me last night. So much poise and patience.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: freer on December 24, 2016, 01:38:02 PM
and only 1 in his last two. He impressed the heck out of me last night. So much poise and patience.

Now we need to find a backup who can win us some games. Although Bibeau might be that I guess we will see at some point in time.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 28, 2016, 07:52:23 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 29, 2016, 10:41:13 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JdtAwzNIjI

The Danish Delight, Steady Freddie, Mr. Anderrrrsen.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on January 21, 2017, 11:09:17 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on January 23, 2017, 11:04:21 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BPocGOXBi0z/?taken-by=mapleleafs
The big Dane posts his second shutout of the season.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 07, 2017, 01:14:43 PM
James Reimer has a higher save percentage than Andersen this season.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Frank E on February 07, 2017, 01:21:13 PM
James Reimer has a higher save percentage than Andersen this season.

huh...just checked nhl.com, that surprises me...Peter Budaj putting up a .920 in 46 games is also impressive.

Budaj is only 2nd to Cam Talbot (49) in terms of games played.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 07, 2017, 01:24:05 PM
huh...just checked nhl.com, that surprises me...Peter Budaj putting up a .920 in 46 games is also impressive.

Budaj is only 2nd to Cam Talbot (49) in terms of games played.

Yeah, he sure is making LA forget about Jonathan Quick during his injury. Too bad they can't get forget about his contract.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on February 07, 2017, 01:34:10 PM
Save percentage is a situation-specific team stat and not an accurate measure of a goalie's worth.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on February 07, 2017, 01:47:47 PM
James Reimer has a higher save percentage than Andersen this season.

Frederick Andersen has played in more games this season than Reimer has ever played in a single season.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Boston Leaf on February 07, 2017, 02:09:45 PM
Reimer in a back up role I would say not seeing the top teams that Anderson would night after night
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 07, 2017, 04:19:07 PM
And it's not just minutes, Leafs give up 35+ on a regular basis, many of them high-quality, broken plays, missed coverage, weak on the man. Freddie was .920 GAA on the season off 2 straight shutouts at the ASG.

First five games of the season I was worried, but watching every game during that mighty swath of two months at .945 GAA had me completely convinced. Leafs are making do right now without that stud #1 and a limping #2. Once defensive help starts coming in through the draft this team will dominate.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: McGarnagle on February 07, 2017, 07:18:09 PM
and a limping #2.

Gardiner is hurt?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: char on February 07, 2017, 07:33:39 PM
James Reimer has a higher save percentage than Andersen this season.
#FreeFreddie
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 13, 2017, 06:41:15 PM
Goalies are human beings. In such an important position one has to be there 100% there both mentally and physically for the entire 60 minutes or it shows immediately. Game after game, week after week, month after month. Here we have the best goalie in the league's numbers over the last 14 games. Certainly comparable to Freddie's. We're seeing a lot of that from the goalies in the league, even the teams. If guys are being weak in the D-zone is increases the number and quality of chances. I think the condensed schedule is a factor. Even if the heart is there, if one is playing even 10% fatigued, in this tight league, it could be the difference between good and average. Wins and Losses.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 25, 2017, 10:59:28 AM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on February 27, 2017, 10:14:41 AM
More insight into Andy. Feschuk with a surprisingly well-written piece.
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/2017/02/26/the-skinny-on-frederik-andersens-game-changing-transformation-feschuk.html

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ďBack then I was literally just playing the game and living off 100 per cent talent. And I thought I was doing fine living off talent,Ē Andersen was saying in a recent interview in the Maple Leafs dressing room. ďI think the best way to put it is, back when youíre a kid, you think thatís a compliment that youíre playing on just talent. It took me a while to learn itís the opposite.Ē

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The ensuing transformation into a leaner, stronger specimen paid off. [...]

And Andersen did it all, in Prohaskaís view, by spending his off-seasons becoming less a goaltending specialist and more an all-round athlete.

ďGoaltenders can get too specialized, like relief pitchers,Ē Prohaska said. ďRelief pitchers can smoke a cigarette, drink a beer and come out and throw 10 pitches. I donít want my goalies to be like that. I want them to be athletes.Ē
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 27, 2017, 07:09:17 PM
Good post Hermanator. Like the point about becoming a toned athlete. Now more than ever if a guy wants to be a number one he's got to be able to put in 60 games at a high caliber. Nutrition, fitness, off-season... if you're not taking it seriously it's gonna show up around game 40.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on March 21, 2017, 05:19:28 AM
With Toronto on the rise and Boston perhaps on the decline, Andersen's bear-hunt could continue for quite a while...

- The big dane is back to giving up two goals or less in regulation. 10 of his last 11 starts.
- Durability: 2nd in League for shots against, saves and total time on ice, behind only Cam Talbot of Edmonton. About to crack 60 games.
- Steady Freddie's worst stretches were the 5-8 games after injury/start of season and coming off the All-Star break. At his best playing every-other night: Oct-Nov, Feb-March.
- Current numbers: 2.65 GAA, .918 SV%

... and playoff O/T is 5-on-5, no shootout ;) Leafs are tied for 6th in League for regulation losses with 23.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on March 21, 2017, 08:33:30 AM
With Toronto on the rise and Boston perhaps on the decline, Andersen's bear-hunt could continue for quite a while...

- The big dane is back to giving up two goals or less in regulation. 10 of his last 11 starts.
- Durability: 2nd in League for shots against, saves and total time on ice, behind only Cam Talbot of Edmonton. About to crack 60 games.
- Steady Freddie's worst stretches were the 5-8 games after injury/start of season and coming off the All-Star break. At his best playing every-other night: Oct-Nov, Feb-March.
- Current numbers: 2.65 GAA, .918 SV%

... and playoff O/T is 5-on-5, no shootout ;) Leafs are tied for 6th in League for regulation losses with 23.

That's great dane to you.  ;)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on March 26, 2017, 08:36:01 AM
I think Veillette isolated the play. Nine minutes left in the first, Freddie is lunging forward to cover the puck during a scramble. Kane gives him a little extra falling on top of him. You can see the weight of his forearm and Freddie's neck twisting to the left.

Here's his article:
https://theleafsnation.com/2017/03/26/frederik-andersen-might-be-hurt-what-now/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Neck strain/concussion symptoms would explain the weirdness surrounding the decision to come out during the first intermission. Also, Jeff speculates it could be a tweak of the shoulder that he hurt during the Olympics that put him out for a few weeks. Hopefully it's not too bad, he was able to finish out the period. I'm sure the Leafs will err on the side of him being 100% before he goes back in there.

Being the goalie of the Toronto Maple Leafs right now is certainly a high-stress position. And the Leafs have Freddie signed for four more years. We'll probably see another Marner situation, with Freddie wanting to get back in there but the trainers and doctors not letting him until he's 100%.
Hopefully Mac and Sparks can hold the fort until he's better. Andersen was playing great, giving up two a game for a long while now. Opposing shooters needing a one-timer in a corner or a deflection to beat him.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Kaberle15 on March 27, 2017, 09:09:46 AM
So, the lack of news is good or bad ?

Can they manage to find a way to get another 7 points in 9 games so they can squeeze into the dance ?

It is time to McBackup to rise!

or is it time to Panic ?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Bullfrog on March 27, 2017, 09:42:13 AM
I'm going to go with panic. I think it's the safest option until we hear otherwise.

Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 27, 2017, 10:20:32 AM

Good to see he's on the ice.  However, its not with regular practice group and that usually means he won't be practicing.  Not looking good for playing tomorrow night, but who knows.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on March 27, 2017, 10:22:32 AM
www.twitter.com/kristen_shilton/status/846366447140061184
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on March 27, 2017, 10:29:31 AM
That's great news, means we're prob looking at days/weeks instead of months. Haha medical staff, yeah everyone knows who the season MVP is. Freddie was on a very nice run there, he's had several. Positionally sound, good tight butterfly. Following the play. And it's not just the numbers, .938 SV% in his last 13. Leafs regularly give up 35+ shots, many high quality. You just can't replace that kind of workhorse. 2nd in NHL total time on ice. Best we can hope for is someone holds the fort.

Looks like it could be the right shoulder he injured earlier this year. But the fact that he's back on the ice so quickly seems to rule out concussion.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Coco-puffs on March 27, 2017, 10:53:28 AM

Good to see him taking part in regular practice... However, Sparks was also called up.  Might just be precautionary but at this point Andersen is probably more DTD than out for long.

Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on March 27, 2017, 11:15:32 AM
Feschuk is reporting that Andersen sustained a blow to his jaw, via anonymous source, and that Andersen thinks he's ready to go for Tuesday. But it's Feschuk on a goalie injury.

I think it's best to give it a day or two more.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on March 27, 2017, 11:30:29 AM
Yeah listening to Leafs Lunch and Feshuk is saying almost a year ago today Freddie took a shot to the jaw in practice that they later diagnosed as concussion like symptoms.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 27, 2017, 11:35:38 AM
David Feschuk with an exclusive report on an injury to the Leafs starting goaltender? This should be good.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 27, 2017, 12:05:57 PM
Quote
Mark Masters‏ @markhmasters

McElhinney says he's starting tomorrow ... Curtis says it's the biggest game of his NHL career

No surprise really, Andersen ended up leaving practice 20 minutes in.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on March 27, 2017, 12:08:22 PM
David Feschuk with an exclusive report on an injury to the Leafs starting goaltender? This should be good.

But, what does Freddie's mom think? Won't somebody ask his mom?!?!?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Kaberle15 on March 27, 2017, 12:37:29 PM
I'm going to go with panic. I think it's the safest option until we hear otherwise.

I'm with you. Panic it is.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: AlmosGirl on March 27, 2017, 12:54:01 PM
I'm going to go with panic. I think it's the safest option until we hear otherwise.

I'm with you. Panic it is.

Me too. Mind you, I went with panic as of Saturday night at the start of the 2nd period! :-[
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on March 27, 2017, 12:59:37 PM
Would be cool if Sparks has to make a start down the stretch and wins to secure a playoff spot.  Last season Leafs played him in the final game to secure 30th spot.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on March 27, 2017, 01:06:53 PM
I'm going to go with panic. I think it's the safest option until we hear otherwise.

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Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: L K on March 27, 2017, 01:49:43 PM
David Feschuk with an exclusive report on an injury to the Leafs starting goaltender? This should be good.

He went right to Andersen's childhood babysitter for the exclusive.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 27, 2017, 01:56:15 PM
So who's the Backup to McBackup?  McBibeau?  McSparks?  Greg Millen?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: crazyperfectdevil on March 27, 2017, 02:14:50 PM
So who's the Backup to McBackup?  McBibeau?  McSparks?  Greg Millen?

Heard they were bringing back J.S. Aubin
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Bender on March 27, 2017, 02:39:12 PM
So who's the Backup to McBackup?  McBibeau?  McSparks?  Greg Millen?

Heard they were bringing back J.S. Aubin

Where's Marcel Coussinneau?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on March 27, 2017, 02:57:55 PM
So who's the Backup to McBackup?  McBibeau?  McSparks?  Greg Millen?

FishBulb has been brought up.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on March 27, 2017, 03:13:54 PM
So who's the Backup to McBackup?  McBibeau?  McSparks?  Greg Millen?

FishBulb has been brought up.

Awesome.  Our playoff spot is assured.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on March 31, 2017, 06:02:38 AM

Freddie's superb March and their growth on team defence has certainly put us in this position. "Andersen has left the game with an upper-body injury" on Saturday had me like o_0. Just picking up where he left off.

He's been an absolute horse for us:
Games: 62 (T-2nd)
Shots: 1954 (2nd)
Saves: 1796 (2nd)
TOI: 3597 MINS (2nd)
GAA: 2.63 (16th among goalies 45+ GP)
SV%: .919 (10th among goalies 45+ GP)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on March 31, 2017, 06:36:27 AM
Well I guess he's alright then
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Nik the Trik on April 09, 2017, 09:55:49 AM

Looks like Andersen won't be in tonight:

Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Kaberle15 on April 09, 2017, 10:33:52 AM

Looks like Andersen won't be in tonight:

Safest option here.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on April 09, 2017, 11:30:38 AM

"... WILL START FIRST GAME OF POST-SEASON."
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on April 10, 2017, 10:44:52 AM
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* Frederik Andersenís 33 wins in net were the most since Vesa Toskala in 2007-08.

I hope never to see Andersen and Toskala mentioned in the same sentence again.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on April 10, 2017, 10:47:24 AM
Quote
* Frederik Andersenís 33 wins in net were the most since Vesa Toskala in 2007-08.

I hope never to see Andersen and Toskala mentioned in the same sentence again.

Why not?  How about Andersen is everything that Toskala wasn't!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on April 10, 2017, 10:48:29 AM
Ok maybe only in superlative comparison type ways ;D
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on April 10, 2017, 11:03:05 AM
Ok maybe only in superlative comparison type ways ;D

Andersen doesn't suck, unlike Toskala!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on June 28, 2017, 06:14:43 AM
http://ingoalmag.com/news/the-new-aesthetics-of-goaltending-vol-2/

Some very interesting off-season reading material about the evolution of the goalie pad.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on August 16, 2017, 08:31:21 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on August 17, 2017, 08:37:38 AM
I hope he's ready to go for October this time around.  Leafs need a stronger start from Freddy.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Coco-puffs on August 17, 2017, 10:05:40 AM
I hope he's ready to go for October this time around.  Leafs need a stronger start from Freddy.

He started the season nursing an injury he sustained in a pre-World Cup game.  He also "overplayed" things alot, trying to challenge the shooter much more than he was used to because Babcock likes his goalies to do that.  Once they realized he's more effective staying deeper in his crease and he adjusted he was fine.  Hopefully the former doesn't happen again and the latter is now resolved.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on August 30, 2017, 06:02:12 PM
Second in the League in TOI and total shots. Still finished with a .918 SV%.
#SteadyFreddie #Workhorse
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: OldTimeHockey on August 30, 2017, 06:07:19 PM
I hope he's ready to go for October this time around.  Leafs need a stronger start from Freddy.

He started the season nursing an injury he sustained in a pre-World Cup game.  He also "overplayed" things alot, trying to challenge the shooter much more than he was used to because Babcock likes his goalies to do that.  Once they realized he's more effective staying deeper in his crease and he adjusted he was fine.  Hopefully the former doesn't happen again and the latter is now resolved.

You think Babcock was asking a goalie to play differently than what makes them successful? I highly doubt it.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on August 30, 2017, 06:08:51 PM
I hope he's ready to go for October this time around.  Leafs need a stronger start from Freddy.

He started the season nursing an injury he sustained in a pre-World Cup game.  He also "overplayed" things alot, trying to challenge the shooter much more than he was used to because Babcock likes his goalies to do that.  Once they realized he's more effective staying deeper in his crease and he adjusted he was fine.  Hopefully the former doesn't happen again and the latter is now resolved.

You think Babcock was asking a goalie to play differently than what makes them successful? I highly doubt it.

It's on record. Look it up.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: OldTimeHockey on August 30, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
I hope he's ready to go for October this time around.  Leafs need a stronger start from Freddy.

He started the season nursing an injury he sustained in a pre-World Cup game.  He also "overplayed" things alot, trying to challenge the shooter much more than he was used to because Babcock likes his goalies to do that.  Once they realized he's more effective staying deeper in his crease and he adjusted he was fine.  Hopefully the former doesn't happen again and the latter is now resolved.

You think Babcock was asking a goalie to play differently than what makes them successful? I highly doubt it.

It's on record. Look it up.

This?

Quote
In late October, when asked whether the coaching staff had influenced Andersenís radical style change, head coach Mike Babcock denied it: ďHeís obviously had a way heís done things and itís important, until we get to know him, that we donít change anything.Ē At the same press conference, Andersen himself refused to comment on the issue, stating simply, ďI donít want to go too much into that.Ē

which was then followed by this:

Quote
Looking at the historical evidence, however, we see that Babcock has a history of asking his goaltenders to play at a more aggressive depth within his system. In 2011, Jimmy Howard discussed Babcockís depth preferences in an interview with InGoal: ďIíve got a great defensive crew with me and I know they are going to take care of that backdoor. Coach [Mike] Babcock stresses that, so you know the goalie has the shooter and you pick up everything backdoor, and that allows not only myself but also Chris [Osgood] to be more aggressive.Ē

I'm sorry, I've coached goalies for 20 years. I've been a goalie my whole life. There's a difference between being aggressive and playing 6 feet out of your crease as Andersen was at the start of the season last season. So, Jimmy Howard saying that it allows him to be more aggressive doesn't mean to charge the shooter.

Did Andersen play differently than his previous seasons? Sure. He was also trying to impress on a very critical market that had lacked a #1 goalie for a few years. It is the NORM for a goalie coach/hockey coach to have the mentality that the goalie takes the shooter and the defense takes away the pass. That's not a new thought process. That isn't Babcock asking a goalie to do something different. That's how goalies have been taught for a very long time. Goalies play the shot, defense plays the pass.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 04, 2017, 10:00:51 PM
35+ shots, two goals. Picking up where he left off.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 04, 2017, 10:20:03 PM
The big dane was dirty tonight.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on October 04, 2017, 10:27:32 PM
Amazing when you start a year with a goalie that's on his game. Leafs threw away points early last year cause Andersen wasn't ready
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: TML fan on October 05, 2017, 02:07:31 AM
I hope he can make XX saves every night
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on October 05, 2017, 09:07:09 AM
The big dane was dirty tonight.

Oooh, I got this:

XX = 35
X2 = 35
X = 5.916
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 24, 2017, 01:16:09 AM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 06, 2017, 09:58:37 PM

Roy-like flourish at the end there ;D
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on November 06, 2017, 10:22:11 PM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on November 06, 2017, 10:29:13 PM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEjLFpU2pJ4
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on November 06, 2017, 11:13:58 PM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high

Just like with basically every butterfly/hybrid goalie in basically every league.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Heroic Shrimp on November 07, 2017, 08:35:02 AM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high

Just like with basically every butterfly/hybrid goalie in basically every league.

It's a short book.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 07, 2017, 09:48:53 AM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high

Shout!
Shout!
Let it all out
These are the things I can do without
Come on
I'm talking to you
Come on
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on November 07, 2017, 04:48:59 PM
Haha dammit. I was trying to have a snipe at Romanuk and Millen and their astute observations and i ruined it with a chubby fingered typo
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on November 07, 2017, 05:03:13 PM
The book on Frederik Andersen - Presented by Audible - Yelled at you by an angry, sleep-deprived Northern Irishman.

;)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on November 07, 2017, 06:11:08 PM
The book is out on him. You have to try and shout high

Shout!
Shout!
Let it all out
These are the things I can do without
Come on
I'm talking to you
Come on
In violent times
You shouldn't have to sell your soul
In black and white
They really really ought to know
Those one track minds
That took you for a working boy
Kiss them goodbye
You shouldn't have to jump for joy
You shouldn't have to shout for joy
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 16, 2017, 10:03:26 PM

Just feelin' it out there tonight! Gotta feel good not having to look behind you once.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on November 17, 2017, 08:52:24 AM
Andersen's save percentage has gone from .895 to .909 in just 4 games.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 17, 2017, 09:20:02 AM
Andersen's save percentage has gone from .895 to .909 in just 4 games.

He's on a hot streak now.  Kind of wish he could get going from October and play with some level of consistency, but when he's hot like this you just want to sit back and enjoy.  Hope it lasts awhile.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Coco-puffs on November 17, 2017, 09:29:30 AM
Andersen's save percentage has gone from .895 to .909 in just 4 games.

Last night it went from .901 to .909 all at once!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on November 17, 2017, 11:10:25 AM
Great save just before Willie scored, excellent game.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: freer on November 17, 2017, 06:33:24 PM
IMO he is only just getting warmed up. I am looking forward to a lot more from Freddy!
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 18, 2017, 11:38:26 PM
Coming out of a slow October and most recently back-to-back shutouts, the big Dane is back to a respectable 2.88 GAA and .914 SV% on the season. Freddy leads the league in saves, TOI and is second in wins with 12.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: anton girdeaux on November 20, 2017, 12:58:50 PM
Slowly coming back to respectability. The team needs him to be better & more consistent, which is easily achievable by the way.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 20, 2017, 01:25:57 PM
Slowly coming back to respectability. The team needs him to be better & more consistent, which is easily achievable by the way.

I mean if you're talking about this season stats at .914% sure it's getting respectable now, but the last 4 starts for Andersen have been lights out.  He's been something like .973% the last 4 games.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on November 20, 2017, 01:48:47 PM
Slowly coming back to respectability. The team needs him to be better & more consistent, which is easily achievable by the way.

I mean if you're talking about this season stats at .914% sure it's getting respectable now, but the last 4 starts for Andersen have been lights out.  He's been something like .973% the last 4 games.

.941 in 7 November starts - and that includes a stinker against St Louis where the team didn't really show up until the 3rd period. He had a rough start to the season - which is obviously largely on him, but at least somewhat on the coach/GM for not having a backup they were willing to play more. Gotta get your backup into more games early in the year and let your starter get into the season at the pace they're best suited for.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: anton girdeaux on November 20, 2017, 03:19:12 PM
Thatís what concerns me with Andersen; over working him.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on November 28, 2017, 10:55:10 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: freer on November 29, 2017, 12:43:54 AM
He is playing awesome.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 02, 2017, 03:45:27 PM
October Freddie: :-\
November Freddie: 8)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: LuncheonMeat on December 02, 2017, 05:35:06 PM
December Freddie: Į\_(ツ)_/Į
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 07, 2017, 01:04:20 AM
- 2.65 GAA .922 SV%
- 1st in the League for TOI, Shots Against and Saves, T-2nd Wins.
- $5-million AAV for the next four years.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 09, 2017, 01:36:28 PM
Quickly becoming a bargain and a very shrewd move by Lou and Co.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on December 19, 2017, 10:35:38 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on December 19, 2017, 11:49:24 PM
Would people rather have Freddie and his contract or Price and his ?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on December 20, 2017, 07:45:49 AM
Lou and goalies, eh?

When the Leafs first traded for and signed Andersen, Mirtle mentioned that he heard the front office thinks theyíve got a read on what makes a good goalie (the fanciest of stats), and got him signed to a league average fair market price for his then-current performance value.

I think theyíve got something really good going with their goalie coaches in Briere and Greco as weíve seen pretty marked improvement up and down the organization in this area even with existing prospects (keeping Sparks and moving Bibeau) considering the shots and chances we give up regularly.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: bustaheims on December 20, 2017, 07:47:38 AM
Would people rather have Freddie and his contract or Price and his ?

That Price contract has so much potential to look awful in the last few years on it (and that's assuming he's just having a bad season/isn't fully healthy right now).
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on January 04, 2018, 12:42:16 PM
Andersen fined $2000 for diving:

https://www.nhl.com/video/andersen-has-been-fined-2000/t-277350912/c-56386003
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on January 04, 2018, 12:57:57 PM
Andersen fined $2000 for diving:

https://www.nhl.com/video/andersen-has-been-fined-2000/t-277350912/c-56386003

I noticed it in game, but can't say why that warrants anything supplemental.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 04, 2018, 01:12:04 PM

This really says all you need to know about how ridiculous NHL rules on diving are. If the NHL was really serious about diving guys like Quick and Smith would have multiple fines by now.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Frank E on January 04, 2018, 01:31:18 PM
Andersen fined $2000 for diving:

https://www.nhl.com/video/andersen-has-been-fined-2000/t-277350912/c-56386003

I noticed it in game, but can't say why that warrants anything supplemental.

Was there no contact there?  Because it looked to me that there was contact there?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: WhatIfGodWasALeaf on January 04, 2018, 01:31:55 PM
He gets mugged regularly without a call, can't blame him for trying to make it easier for the officials to spot.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on January 04, 2018, 01:34:00 PM
haha Freddie you beautiful bastard.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on January 04, 2018, 01:43:26 PM
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I see contact, and I see the slightest hints of a dive. The fine is a result of this being a second dive following a warning from the game against Carolina.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 04, 2018, 01:47:51 PM
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on January 04, 2018, 01:49:47 PM
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on January 04, 2018, 01:52:19 PM
It's embellishment, not a dive. They're different things but punished the same as far as the NHL goes.

oh I've been using diving for falls and embellishment for when the player stays upright (fake high sticks, 'slashes').
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on January 04, 2018, 01:54:33 PM
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on January 04, 2018, 01:57:50 PM
I mean, in this situation I'd call it both.  There's no way that minimal contact should have caused Andersen to fall down like that.  He not only dove, but he embellished whatever incidental contact there was on him.

You know what, you're right. I didn't look at it closely enough. That's 100% a dive.

I'm generally pro-embellishment, which is what I think Kadri does a lot. Embellishment, to me, is when a player reacts a little extra to a legitimate penalty. Like when he gets tripped and makes a big show if it. If you're going down anyways, why not make sure the ref spots it? In my heart of hearts I don't believe that should be a penalty. I know that's not exactly a very popular sentiment though.

In this case what Perron did to Andersen definitely wasn't a penalty so it's considered a dive.

See soccer for some of the greatest sports embellishments of all time.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Guru Tugginmypuddah on January 04, 2018, 02:16:09 PM
Freddy makes Greg Louganis look like an amateur chump.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on January 04, 2018, 02:33:33 PM
Freddy makes Greg Louganis look like an amateur chump.
5.6 for form  6 for artistic quality
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: L K on January 04, 2018, 06:20:57 PM
It's funny because the NHL seems good at catching this but ignores the 4-5 times someone runs him in the crease a game.  Have to nab those evil divers though, maybe once they are all gone we can start to catch those elbows to the back of the heads of players.  Or you know have concussion spotters who actually spot the concussions of Matthews and Kadri.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: freer on January 04, 2018, 06:59:50 PM
The NHL is such a joke. TML gets screw every time. He gets pushed over in the crease last game no call and now this. F U Bettman
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on January 18, 2018, 02:21:50 PM
Invalid Tweet IDFreddy's playing so, so well. Been really sharp. Tops in the Leauge in TOI and shots/saves yet again. Dude is taking care of himself / 95 rating in durability. I think it's finally put to rest that the big Dane is a bona-fide number one. And at $5-million for another 3 years after this, a helluva a signing/calculated risk a couple years back. Well done Lou and co.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 07, 2018, 11:36:30 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 08, 2018, 11:46:56 AM
It's a shame Andersen had such a poor first 10 games. It'll probably ruin his chances of being a Vezina nominee. Right now his .922 save percentage is tied for 8th in the league (min. 22 GP). I don't think that'll be enough to put ahead of Vasilevskiy, Rinne, Rask, Hellebuyck, and maybe even Fleury if he finishes with enough games played.

But if you looked at all goalie stats since October 29th, Andersen is tied with Rask for 2nd with a .930 save percentage. The only guy ahead of him is Carter Hutton and he's played 15 less games.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 08, 2018, 09:38:58 PM
Freddie's best quality is his durability and mental toughness combined with a high standard of play. There's ten other starters with better GAA and SV% but many play behind a better D corps. Also, Freddie leads the League in TOI, total saves and total shots. To be able to see that much rubber and quality chances without going down with an extended injury or mentally checking out for stretches puts him in the Vezina conversation in my opinion. He won't be nominated but he's top ten at least, and I think top five.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 20, 2018, 09:52:15 PM
The steely glare of the Great Dane.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on February 20, 2018, 10:54:32 PM
I sure looks like Freddy really dedicated himself to raising his personal fitness level. Last year he was probably like: "ok, I'm going to be seeing a ton of rubber here as the number one and playing 65 games. I'd better get on this. I can't get winded or I'll be exposed."
I believe Naz was challenged on that and now he's flourishing.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on February 21, 2018, 08:45:35 AM
I sure looks like Freddy really dedicated himself to raising his personal fitness level. Last year he was probably like: "ok, I'm going to be seeing a ton of rubber here as the number one and playing 65 games. I'd better get on this. I can't get winded or I'll be exposed."
I believe Naz was challenged on that and now he's flourishing.

It's great to see this success with Freddie and a huge part revolving around fitness.  Similar situation for Sparks in the AHL too.  I read that he was really dedicated into getting more fit in the summer and now he's quicker and less fatigued when he plays and is putting up huge numbers in the AHL. 
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 21, 2018, 10:43:05 AM
Andersen.  Vezina.  If he keeps going it could happen.  You can't say that about any Leafs goalie for decades.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2018, 11:38:18 AM
Andersen.  Vezina.  If he keeps going it could happen.  You can't say that about any Leafs goalie for decades.
Last time was Terry or Johnny?
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 21, 2018, 11:41:21 AM
Andersen.  Vezina.  If he keeps going it could happen.  You can't say that about any Leafs goalie for decades.
Last time was Terry or Johnny?

Cujo was a Vezina runner-up in '99 and 2000.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on February 21, 2018, 11:43:58 AM
Cujo was a Vezina runner-up in '99 and 2000.

And Eddie finished 3rd in his first year here.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Nik the Trik on February 21, 2018, 11:46:44 AM
Cujo was a Vezina runner-up in '99 and 2000.

And Eddie finished 3rd in his first year here.

Point is, Raycroft and Toskala weren't good.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 21, 2018, 12:30:30 PM
Cujo was a Vezina runner-up in '99 and 2000.

And Eddie finished 3rd in his first year here.

Point is, Raycroft and Toskala weren't good.

Very true, this.

But what I meant was it's been decades since any Leaf has won.  Poor wording on my part.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on February 21, 2018, 01:59:05 PM
Last Leafs to win a Vesina were Terry Sawchuck and Johnny Bower in 64-65  when I was 9.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on February 21, 2018, 02:04:50 PM
Last Leafs to win a Vesina were Terry Sawchuck and Johnny Bower in 64-65  when I was 9.

Hey old timer, you're the same age as my oldest sister.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on February 22, 2018, 10:51:39 AM
Last Leafs to win a Vesina were Terry Sawchuck and Johnny Bower in 64-65  when I was 9.

Hey old timer, you're the same age as my oldest sister.
Now when I get up the "Snap, Krackle & Pop"is no longer in my cereal bowl
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on February 22, 2018, 11:27:12 AM
Last Leafs to win a Vesina were Terry Sawchuck and Johnny Bower in 64-65  when I was 9.

Hey old timer, you're the same age as my oldest sister.
Now when I get up the "Snap, Krackle & Pop"is no longer in my cereal bowl

I hear ya, brother.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 09, 2018, 11:46:57 AM
Andersen's save percentage this season is back down to .919, which is basically his career average. That puts him 14th among goalies with 20+ starts. His save percentage since February 1st is .908 in 13 games. Not trying to dump on him or anything, but I do feel like all that Vezina talk earlier in the year was pretty over the top. Just like last season he's had stretches of greatness and then stretches of not-greatness.

There's also the question of how much of a role fatigue is playing in this less-than-average stretch of his. Former goalie-turned-analyst Brent Johnson (@JohnnyGoalie12) had a good twitter thread the other day about Holtby and how being overplayed may be hurting him, I'll post the text for easier reading:

Quote
Braden Holtby is an excellent, top/tiered NHL starting goalie! One thing Iíve been saying for some time now is that in todayís game, with the incredible speed, pace and chaos, starting goalies get more fatigued than ever before.

The constant pressure of having to be fully prepared night-in and night-out, has a wearing effect on ones body and mind.

Since 2013/14 Braden has started 298 games (approx. 17,800 minutes.) Thatís a hell of a lot of time! I donít care who you are.

What Iím saying is that there are boundaries for what a persons body and mind can endure. Note: itís also more noticeable when a goalie is off his game in comparison to a forward or defenseman.

Mid-season fatigue happens to goalies all around the league, not just here in DC. A goalie will rarely tell a reporter that they are exhausted or express this sentiment w/ the coach when asked. They will just keep strumming along, because that is what they are expected to do.

Some starting goalies get away with playing sub-par games down the stretch because their respective teams get the job done in front of them. Therefore the from the outside, the goalie keeps winning and the people in power keep them playing and playing...

Getting back to Braden, who in the past few years has changed his game (for the better, might I add) from that of a radical game, to a more efficient and detailed game. But in the past month or so, I have seen him make mistakes that I havenít seen him make all season...

His puck handling and depth thru traffic (or lack there-of) have not been as sharp as they were in December. Which leads me to believe that he may very well be low on petrol. Also, this can put stress on his confidence and self reliance.

If what Iíve read is correct and coach Trotz is looking to go with (the very capable) Grubauer a little more down the stretch, it is all positive. Itís positive for Holtby, for Grubauer and for the Caps heading into the playoff race.

There are reports out that Andrei Vasilevskiy (55 starts and counting) is tired and Iím not surprised. Many former cohorts of mine have expressed to me the feeling of being totally drained numerous times throughout my career. Sometimes looking totally defeated doing so.

Donít get me wrong. Iím not saying that itís easy to be a forward or d-man, cause Iím not. Itís just a totally different mentality. A goalie has to be locked in for 60+ minutes, following the puck every square inch on the ice surface.

Note: a goalie, especially during the peak of his career, doesnít just forget how to stop a puck. The body is just reacting in unusual ways because the mind is weary. Coaches around the league should take notice when they start to see a pattern of uneven play.

If the coaching staff can afford to manage their tenders (especially if you have two capable Gís, & most do!) throughout the season, their squad will be better for it in the long run. The season is a marathon, not a sprint. You donít win anything in December or January.

In closing, it does take an army to win in this great game of ours. But for the Capitals, a healthy and rested Braden Holtby can only help them in their playoff bid.

That report about Vasilevskiy being tired can be found here: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightning/2018/03/07/andrei-vasilevskiy-battling-fatigue-as-first-time-no-1/

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So you can't blame Vasilevskiy for admitting he's a bit tired, mentally and physically. He's in uncharted territory in his first full season as the Lightning's No. 1 goaltender. His 55 games entering tonight's against the Rangers are a career high, with five of his past six starts going beyond regulation.

Vasilevskiy said Wednesday that fatigue has affected his play. He has given up 68 goals in his past 21 starts, an average of 3.23 per game, after allowing 64 in his first 33 (1.93). Though how the team has played in front of him has a big part in that different.

"Tiredness is something that I probably never faced before," Vasilevskiy, 23, said. "I mean, 50-plus games. When you play in 20-plus games, it's like you think, 'Oh, I'm good, I can play 60-plus.' But now when I'm on 50-plus, I'm like, 'That's tough.'

"So that's why sometimes I'm probably not as sharp, like (I was) probably the first half of the season. That's why I have to adjust and be on the top of my game."
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on March 09, 2018, 07:03:28 PM
Andersen's save percentage this season is back down to .919, which is basically his career average. That puts him 14th among goalies with 20+ starts. His save percentage since February 1st is .908 in 13 games. Not trying to dump on him or anything, but I do feel like all that Vezina talk earlier in the year was pretty over the top. Just like last season he's had stretches of greatness and then stretches of not-greatness.

There's also the question of how much of a role fatigue is playing in this less-than-average stretch of his. Former goalie-turned-analyst Brent Johnson (@JohnnyGoalie12) had a good twitter thread the other day about Holtby and how being overplayed may be hurting him, I'll post the text for easier reading:

Quote
Braden Holtby is an excellent, top/tiered NHL starting goalie! One thing Iíve been saying for some time now is that in todayís game, with the incredible speed, pace and chaos, starting goalies get more fatigued than ever before.

The constant pressure of having to be fully prepared night-in and night-out, has a wearing effect on ones body and mind.

Since 2013/14 Braden has started 298 games (approx. 17,800 minutes.) Thatís a hell of a lot of time! I donít care who you are.

What Iím saying is that there are boundaries for what a persons body and mind can endure. Note: itís also more noticeable when a goalie is off his game in comparison to a forward or defenseman.

Mid-season fatigue happens to goalies all around the league, not just here in DC. A goalie will rarely tell a reporter that they are exhausted or express this sentiment w/ the coach when asked. They will just keep strumming along, because that is what they are expected to do.

Some starting goalies get away with playing sub-par games down the stretch because their respective teams get the job done in front of them. Therefore the from the outside, the goalie keeps winning and the people in power keep them playing and playing...

Getting back to Braden, who in the past few years has changed his game (for the better, might I add) from that of a radical game, to a more efficient and detailed game. But in the past month or so, I have seen him make mistakes that I havenít seen him make all season...

His puck handling and depth thru traffic (or lack there-of) have not been as sharp as they were in December. Which leads me to believe that he may very well be low on petrol. Also, this can put stress on his confidence and self reliance.

If what Iíve read is correct and coach Trotz is looking to go with (the very capable) Grubauer a little more down the stretch, it is all positive. Itís positive for Holtby, for Grubauer and for the Caps heading into the playoff race.

There are reports out that Andrei Vasilevskiy (55 starts and counting) is tired and Iím not surprised. Many former cohorts of mine have expressed to me the feeling of being totally drained numerous times throughout my career. Sometimes looking totally defeated doing so.

Donít get me wrong. Iím not saying that itís easy to be a forward or d-man, cause Iím not. Itís just a totally different mentality. A goalie has to be locked in for 60+ minutes, following the puck every square inch on the ice surface.

Note: a goalie, especially during the peak of his career, doesnít just forget how to stop a puck. The body is just reacting in unusual ways because the mind is weary. Coaches around the league should take notice when they start to see a pattern of uneven play.

If the coaching staff can afford to manage their tenders (especially if you have two capable Gís, & most do!) throughout the season, their squad will be better for it in the long run. The season is a marathon, not a sprint. You donít win anything in December or January.

In closing, it does take an army to win in this great game of ours. But for the Capitals, a healthy and rested Braden Holtby can only help them in their playoff bid.

That report about Vasilevskiy being tired can be found here: http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/lightning/2018/03/07/andrei-vasilevskiy-battling-fatigue-as-first-time-no-1/

Quote
So you can't blame Vasilevskiy for admitting he's a bit tired, mentally and physically. He's in uncharted territory in his first full season as the Lightning's No. 1 goaltender. His 55 games entering tonight's against the Rangers are a career high, with five of his past six starts going beyond regulation.

Vasilevskiy said Wednesday that fatigue has affected his play. He has given up 68 goals in his past 21 starts, an average of 3.23 per game, after allowing 64 in his first 33 (1.93). Though how the team has played in front of him has a big part in that different.

"Tiredness is something that I probably never faced before," Vasilevskiy, 23, said. "I mean, 50-plus games. When you play in 20-plus games, it's like you think, 'Oh, I'm good, I can play 60-plus.' But now when I'm on 50-plus, I'm like, 'That's tough.'

"So that's why sometimes I'm probably not as sharp, like (I was) probably the first half of the season. That's why I have to adjust and be on the top of my game."

Some of these guys are seeing more rubber than a girl working in Amsterdam..on a nightly basis.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: CarltonTheBear on March 09, 2018, 07:12:56 PM
Some of these guys are seeing more rubber than a girl working in Amsterdam..on a nightly basis.

I thought you said that the Athletic was making you a better writer ;)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: leafsjunkie on March 09, 2018, 09:01:19 PM
Some of these guys are seeing more rubber than a girl working in Amsterdam..on a nightly basis.

I thought you said that the Athletic was making you a better writer ;)

That was the alcohol and prescriptions talking.  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Highlander on March 10, 2018, 09:35:31 AM
Some of these guys are seeing more rubber than a girl working in Amsterdam..on a nightly basis.

I thought you said that the Athletic was making you a better writer ;)

That was the alcohol and prescriptions talking.  ;) 8)
Scotch and Xanax the best combo plate there is.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 10, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 13, 2018, 02:05:13 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DmV-Rn3sITE
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: sickbeast on October 15, 2018, 06:05:19 PM
It looks like Andersen is hurt.  Knee injury.  I hope it's not serious.  They say knee injuries are the worst possible scenario for a butterfly style goalie.  Hopefully Sparks can fill in nicely for a bit.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 16, 2018, 02:41:43 PM
It looks like Andersen is hurt.  Knee injury.  I hope it's not serious.  They say knee injuries are the worst possible scenario for a butterfly style goalie.  Hopefully Sparks can fill in nicely for a bit.

Go out there and make a career Sparky.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: disco on October 16, 2018, 02:54:55 PM
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Michael on November 07, 2018, 10:55:12 AM
Last night was Freddie's 79th win as a Leaf and that ties him at 11th all time. That surprised me. A lot. So I looked up the top 10, and here it is:

1.   Turk Broda*   304
2.   Johnny Bower*   219
3.   Felix Potvin   160
4.   Curtis Joseph   138
5.   Mike Palmateer   129
6.   Harry Lumley*   103
7.   Lorne Chabot   102
8.   John Ross Roach  98
9.   Ed Belfour*   93
10.   James Reimer   85
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Arn on November 07, 2018, 11:24:30 AM
Could be top 6 by the end of the season, all being well. Impressive.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: Zee on November 07, 2018, 11:33:57 AM
Hope he doesn't get burned out again by Babcock. We've seen November Freddie play like this before, it's April+ that I'm worried about.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on November 08, 2018, 12:56:33 PM

Hope he doesn't get burned out again by Babcock. We've seen November Freddie play like this before, it's April+ that I'm worried about.

I'm kind of not that worried; Leafs are getting rolled some nights on the shot clock (and the shot attempts), but from watching the games, the Leafs are pretty much pulling off what Carlyle wanted to do in keeping shots to the outside. Not only are the shots generally outside, they're giving Andersen clean looks at the shooters, so all he's doing is squaring up and nullifying (or utilizing) the rebound.

Vegas wasted us on the shot clock but I don't think there were more than a half dozen actually dangerous attempts (in terms of pre-shot movement, location, traffic).
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: L K on November 08, 2018, 01:00:36 PM

Hope he doesn't get burned out again by Babcock. We've seen November Freddie play like this before, it's April+ that I'm worried about.

I'm kind of not that worried; Leafs are getting rolled some nights on the shot clock (and the shot attempts), but from watching the games, the Leafs are pretty much pulling off what Carlyle wanted to do in keeping shots to the outside. Not only are the shots generally outside, they're giving Andersen clean looks at the shooters, so all he's doing is squaring up and nullifying (or utilizing) the rebound.

Vegas wasted us on the shot clock but I don't think there were more than a half dozen actually dangerous attempts (in terms of pre-shot movement, location, traffic).

It's still a lot of up/down and the game day weight loss recovery though.  I don't think it matters much if he faces 10 shots of 100 shots a game.  I think they just need to make sure he isn't playing 70 games this year.
Title: Re: Frederik Andersen
Post by: herman on November 08, 2018, 01:05:18 PM
It's still a lot of up/down and the game day weight loss recovery though.  I don't think it matters much if he faces 10 shots of 100 shots a game.  I think they just need to make sure he isn't playing 70 games this year.

I think to that point, there's a reason they went with an AHL starter than an NHL backup for the job.