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Started by herman, May 05, 2024, 01:20:37 AM

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herman

Happy birthday, Mitch Marner. You should probably throw your phone into the lake for the summer.

Thank you Deebo
Quote from: Deebo on May 06, 2024, 08:18:55 AMCap situation:

Auston Matthews
   13,250,000 
William Nylander
   11,500,000 
John Tavares
   11,000,000 
Mitchell Marner
   10,903,000 
David Kampf
   2,400,000 
Calle Jarnkrok
   2,100,000 
Bobby McMann
   1,350,000 
Ryan Reaves
   1,350,000 
Matthew Knies
   925,000 
Pontus Holmberg
   800,000 
---------
---------
Morgan Rielly
   7,500,000 
Jake McCabe
   2,000,000 
Simon Benoit
   1,350,000 
Connor Timmins
   1,100,000 
---------
---------
Joseph Woll
   766,667 
---------
---------
Total
   68,294,667 
---------
---------
Cap
   87,700,000 
---------
---------
Room
   19,405,333 

RFAs:
Nicholas Robertson
Connor Dewar
Noah Gregor
Max Ellis
Alex Steeves

Timothy Liljegren
Maxime Lajoie

Keith Petruzelli
#27 #TeamFasstholes

A Weekend at Bernier's

#1
Ooooooo, good, I get to be the frst one throwing out reactionary and baseless organizational moves.

First, and foremost, let's get a good old Bay Street two-for-one special happening and sign Brett Pesce and Rod Brind'Amour.  They can split the U-Haul costs by driving up together.

Second, sign a good-but-no-great goaltender (Laurent Broissant?) to go 1A-1B with Woll.  Hidelby waiting at the Ricoh for when Woll inevitably chips a toenail.

I think Tavares can be run back as the robotic heart and soul of the team (Artificial Intelligence?) but they need to upgrade 3C to alleviate the pressure of JT's defensive zone misgivings.  Looking back, how good would somebody like Vincent Trochek have looked on 3C after being salary dumped by Carolina (granted, the $6M could not have been accommodated then).

Marner must be moved somehow, someway.  Send him to Florida to play with Matthew, he seems to vibe with people who have that name.  Picks and young players are fine, the $11M is more important.  Sign Scott Walker, Max Domi and Teuvo Teravainen for $15M collectively and the Leafs will be exponentially more balanced than they are now.

Ride the cheap young forwards, (reluctantly) trade David (Mein) Kampf and give an opportunity for Minten to make the team.  Bob's your uncle.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

#2
When thinking about potential new goalies Boston would seem to be a good trade partner for Ullmark...for someone in the Western conference.

Wonder if someone like the Ducks can spin a deal for him and flip him to Toronto. Bonus if Marner can be persuaded to waive his no-trade clause to go there in return for a package.

A Weekend at Bernier's

Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on May 05, 2024, 01:15:19 PMWhen thinking about potential new goalies Boston would seem to be a good trade partner for Ullman...for someone in the Western conference.

Wonder if someone like the Ducks can spin a deal for him and flip him to Toronto. Bonus if Marner can be persuaded to waive his no-trade clause to go there in return for a package.

Shoot, my mistake, I thought Ullmark was UFA this year. Edit forthcoming.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

And there's me calling him Ullman instead of Ullmark

Highlander

Quote from: A Weekend at Bernier's on May 05, 2024, 12:56:57 PMOoooooo, good, I get to be the frst one throwing out reactionary and baseless organizational moves.

First, and foremost, let's get a good old Bay Street two-for-one special happening and sign Brett Pesce and Rod Brind'Amour.  They can split the U-Haul costs by driving up together.

Second, sign a good-but-no-great goaltender (Laurent Broissant?) to go 1A-1B with Woll.  Hidelby waiting at the Ricoh for when Woll inevitably chips a toenail.

I think Tavares can be run back as the robotic heart and soul of the team (Artificial Intelligence?) but they need to upgrade 3C to alleviate the pressure of JT's defensive zone misgivings.  Looking back, how good would somebody like Vincent Trochek have looked on 3C after being salary dumped by Carolina (granted, the $6M could not have been accommodated then).

Marner must be moved somehow, someway.  Send him to Florida to play with Matthew, he seems to vibe with people who have that name.  Picks and young players are fine, the $11M is more important.  Sign Scott Walker, Max Domi and Teuvo Teravainen for $15M collectively and the Leafs will be exponentially more balanced than they are now.

Ride the cheap young forwards, (reluctantly) trade David (Mein) Kampf and give an opportunity for Minten to make the team.  Bob's your uncle.

Loved the post, funny and not far of the mark.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

Arn

I would like to see Domi get some kind of longer term deal at the right price.

Trade Marner for Hellebuyck.
I Saw Jay McClement Score.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

Quote from: Arn on May 05, 2024, 04:34:57 PMI would like to see Domi get some kind of longer term deal at the right price.

Trade Marner for Hellebuyck.

I was up for this (with extension in place) last year. No chance Marner waives for Winnipeg though.

bustaheims

Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on May 05, 2024, 05:09:09 PM
Quote from: Arn on May 05, 2024, 04:34:57 PMI would like to see Domi get some kind of longer term deal at the right price.

Trade Marner for Hellebuyck.

I was up for this (with extension in place) last year. No chance Marner waives for Winnipeg though.

Also, no chance Winnipeg does it, either. They have no one to take his place.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

bustaheims

While I'm far from the "blow it all up" camp, I do recognize there do need to be some significant changes to the roster - either in terms of magnitude or quantity. In my mind, there are only 3 guys who spent significant time on the NHL roster who should be considered untouchable - Matthews, Nylander, and Knies. Everyone else should ne a potential trade piece if it means upgrading in net, adding a top pairing D, or other significant upgrade.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

mr grieves

#10
While I was for it before they signed his extension and was for it again after last season, I don't see any point in trading Marner at this late date--too little term left, likely contract demands, that dang NMC. What value are they getting back? So I find myself thinking they should... 'run it back'? No, more like 'ride it out.'

The solvable (without a rebuild) problem is that there's no depth and no middle-class with this core on these contracts under the COVID cap. That's changing. The cap going up, Tavares's contract is off the books next season. Maybe he comes back at a number in line with his current value.

As to Marner, he makes sense around that Nylander number, but no more. What happens if he's handled the way Stamkos was (c. 2016)? Only the most wretched, desperate of teams (Caps?) would pay him $11.5M x 8 Leafs years / 7 UFA years = $13M AAV. Let him see what's out there. I suspect, in the end, an offer he finds somewhat underwhelming from the Leafs will make him richer than anything any other team is inclined to offer a guy who's not proven he can be The Guy.

So I'd look to keep Domi around, get some defensemen who can move the puck, trade Kampf and let a kid take that line... small stuff.

Oh, and new coach. It's past time.   

CarltonTheBear

Quick, boring-ish armchair take:

Trade Kampf for cap relief. Sign Dewar for $1mil. Trade Liljegren for a Sandin-like return if possible. Sign Domi for $4mil, Montour for $8.5mil, Tanev for $4.5mil:

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
McMann-Domi-Marner
Cowan-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Holmberg-Dewar-Reaves

Rielly-Tanev
McCabe-Montour
Benoit-Timmins

Woll
____

That leaves you with just under $2.9mil for a goalie and maybe a spare roster player. The UFA goalie market is fugly. The Leafs will likely need to find a cheap platoon option with Woll and just like hope for the best, with possibly having a league minimum Murray and Hildebeast as back-up options with the Marlies.

Zee

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 06, 2024, 09:10:33 AMQuick, boring-ish armchair take:

Trade Kampf for cap relief. Sign Dewar for $1mil. Trade Liljegren for a Sandin-like return if possible. Sign Domi for $4mil, Montour for $8.5mil, Tanev for $4.5mil:

Knies-Matthews-Nylander
McMann-Domi-Marner
Cowan-Tavares-Jarnkrok
Holmberg-Dewar-Reaves

Rielly-Tanev
McCabe-Montour
Benoit-Timmins

Woll
____

That leaves you with just under $2.9mil for a goalie and maybe a spare roster player. The UFA goalie market is fugly. The Leafs will likely need to find a cheap platoon option with Woll and just like hope for the best, with possibly having a league minimum Murray and Hildebeast as back-up options with the Marlies.

That's a big gamble in goal with just Woll and budget backups.  Not sure they can commit to that, and I love Woll but his injury history is really worrisome.

Dappleganger

#13
Offseason Game Plan

Max Domi - Auston Matthews - Tyler Bertuzzi
Matthew Knies - John Tavares - William Nylander
Bobby McMann - Pontus Holmberg - Calle Jarnkrok
Nick Robertson - David Kampf - Connor Dewar

Extras:
Ryan Reaves
Noah Gregor


____________ - Brett Pesce
Simon Benoit - Jake McCabe
Joel Edmundson - _________


Joseph Woll
___________


*Players needed to be signed in italics


Players to target in Free Agency:

Forwards

Elias Lindholm
Chandler Stephenson
Tyler Toffoli
Jake DeBrusk
Victor Olofsson
Kevin Labanc
Dakota Joshua
Danton Heinen
Stefan Noesen

Defencemen

Sean Walker
Christopher Tanev
Nikita Zadorov
Brandon Montour
Sean Monahan


Goalies

Laurent Brossoit
Anthony Stolarz



Possible Trade:

Mitch Marner + Morgan Rielly

for

Zachary Werenski + Patrik Laine + Alex Nylander


Go win a Cup:

Max Domi - Auston Matthews - Tyler Bertuzzi
Matthew Knies - John Tavares - William Nylander
Bobby McMann - Pontus Holmberg - Patrik Laine
Calle Jarnkrok - David Kampf - Connor Dewar

Zach Werenski - Brett Pesce
Simon Benoit - Jake McCabe
Joel Edmundson - Sean Walker


*Ideally you may want to do something with Tavares at 2C and Holmberg at 3C. Maybe the answer is Tavares at 3C, Holmberg redistributed and sign one of Lindholm or Chandler.

Also, there's going to be a press conference where Tavares gives up the C and hands it over to Matthews.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Zee on May 06, 2024, 09:46:35 AMThat's a big gamble in goal with just Woll and budget backups.  Not sure they can commit to that, and I love Woll but his injury history is really worrisome.

I'd love to finally see a top goalie here, but I don't really see anyone available right now. Maybe next offseason with potentially (a lot) more cap space available we go bigger game hunting for a goalie.