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According to Chelios Babcock isn't compatible with skilled players

Started by crazyperfectdevil, March 25, 2017, 12:02:04 PM

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crazyperfectdevil

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/chelios-babcock-is-a-deterrent-to-skilled-players

Quote"No veteran free agent is going to want to come in and play for Mike Babcock. I wanted to because I wanted to stay in Detroit, but no matter what I did — I tried so hard to win his heart over and I just couldn't."

He adds that the Red Wings move to their new arena and the fact that Babcock is no longer coach in Detroit will actually help the team recruit the best players.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: crazyperfectdevil on March 25, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
I wanted to because I wanted to stay in Detroit, but no matter what I did — I tried so hard to win his heart over and I just couldn't."

Chelios was a shell of his former self by the time Babcock came along. Couple this with Commodore's comments and the headline may as well be "Babcock isn't compatible with bad players". And I mean that still wouldn't be accurate.

crazyperfectdevil

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on March 25, 2017, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: crazyperfectdevil on March 25, 2017, 12:02:04 PM
I wanted to because I wanted to stay in Detroit, but no matter what I did — I tried so hard to win his heart over and I just couldn't."

Chelios was a shell of his former self by the time Babcock came along. Couple this with Commodore's comments and the headline may as well be "Babcock isn't compatible with bad players". And I mean that still wouldn't be accurate.

Yeah, I'm sure every coach has his detractors.  I was just surprised i wasn't seeing this one in more places because this is the kind of thing the media generally goes crazy with.  I thought it was more interesting he felt now was the time to go back into it?

Nik

I'm not sure what the explanation would be for Babcock clashing so much with skilled players and the fact that they kept their core group together for so long. Datsyuk sure seemed happy to play for him and he's probably one of the top 10 most skilled guys I've ever seen.

They also signed Marian Hossa as a UFA with Babcock as coach so....
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McGarnagle

Yeah, it's a good thing all those Team Canada squads coached by babcock were made up of scrubs, as we no doubt would have lost otherwise what with the inability to coach good players.

sneakyray

yeah, they played this on detroit sports radio and to be fair the hosts didn't buy it.  Their point was that Detroit has been bad for a few years now and babcock took a bad team to the playoffs for the last few years he was there.

Also, he won one cup and probably would have won the second if datsyuk wasn't hurt so yeah...you know what attracts free agents...winning.

LuncheonMeat

I remember Chelios was ripping on Shanahan as well. Something about him being a politician, and he's great if you like that sort of guy. He also seemed to be annoyed that Shanahan was in the position he's in with the Leafs without any real experience. It all sounds like sour grapes to me.
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Highlander

Hey even Jesus had his detractors...don't we know.  There is always someone to knock someone, thats the world wees in
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KW Sluggo

We had 30 to 40 years during which the players, their personalities and priorities dominated the team and what did that achieve?

Yes we signed many veteran ("I want to end my career as a Leaf") UFAs and we traded for some, all of whom picked up some big money and most of whom became doorstops.

We now have coach whose resume, profile and contract are on the same level, if not higher, than most of the players.

I am seeing how that worked out and I like what I see. Equally, I like what I don't see, namely "blue & white" disease and any mention of same.





disco

I heard the full audio quote on Hockey Central yesterday and you could hear him smiling, saying it in a light-hearted way. The panel agreed Chelly wouldn't say anything he'd have a problem with telling Babcock himself. Babs is a demanding coach, accountability and buy-in up and down the lineup. I could see how that would rub some vets the wrong way. That's pro sports.

Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: disco on March 30, 2017, 12:43:08 PM
I heard the full audio quote on Hockey Central yesterday and you could hear him smiling, saying it in a light-hearted way. The panel agreed Chelly wouldn't say anything he'd have a problem with telling Babcock himself. Babs is a demanding coach, accountability and buy-in up and down the lineup. I could see how that would rub some vets the wrong way. That's pro sports.

Yeah, and at the end of the day, there are going to be some players that can handle playing for Babcock and some that can't.  At the end of the day, as has been stated, the chance to win trumps a lot of things.
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Arn

I was searching for a Babcock thread to put up this latest reminder that Babcock was an utter prick, and this one actually seemed appropriate considering the content

But anyway

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5530122/2024/05/31/no-one-is-spared-tracing-mike-babcocks-imperious-nhl-coaching-career/
I Saw Jay McClement Score.

herman

Quote from: Arn on May 31, 2024, 08:33:12 AMI was searching for a Babcock thread to put up this latest reminder that Babcock was an utter prick, and this one actually seemed appropriate considering the content

But anyway

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5530122/2024/05/31/no-one-is-spared-tracing-mike-babcocks-imperious-nhl-coaching-career/

He's the Joss Whedon of the hockey coaching circuit.
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