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2023-24 General Trades & Signings

Started by herman, November 08, 2023, 03:19:42 PM

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bustaheims

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2024, 03:23:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1766197512619057465

Wait. Vegas is getting the 3rds? What is Grier doing?

Wait what? The NHL might genuinely need to investigate and stop this trade lol.

Bender

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on March 08, 2024, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2024, 03:23:50 PMhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1766197512619057465

Wait. Vegas is getting the 3rds? What is Grier doing?

Wait what? The NHL might genuinely need to investigate and stop this trade lol.

Ownership dying to get out of paying for someone IR? This just seems nuts.
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

Peter D.

I'm unsure if I should applaud the Golden Knights for their creativity in circumventing the cap, or be pissed at the league for constantly allowing it.  Because I'm sure if there were some other teams *cough*Leafs*cough* who continually pulled this off, the league would step in and squash it.

bustaheims

"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Guilt Trip

Quote from: Peter D. on March 08, 2024, 04:02:59 PMI'm unsure if I should applaud the Golden Knights for their creativity in circumventing the cap, or be pissed at the league for constantly allowing it.  Because I'm sure if there were some other teams *cough*Leafs*cough* who continually pulled this off, the league would step in and squash it.
Leafs are doing it as well and have done it often. They just haven't won. The phrase Robidas Island started with the Leafs. Rules are the rules and no one is breaking any. I remember reading/hearing that while some complained about it, the owners don't want to change the system.
I think it's great and I love that Vegas is going for it. There's no guarantees they'll even make the playoffs right now so we'll see.
Vegas does prove one thing, there are no excuses for not getting the player you want/need. 

cw

Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2024, 03:00:48 PMVegas picking up a guy to stash on LTIR? Typical.

I was hoping the Leafs would do some of that to buy some picks

bustaheims

Quote from: cw on March 08, 2024, 04:29:55 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on March 08, 2024, 03:00:48 PMVegas picking up a guy to stash on LTIR? Typical.

I was hoping the Leafs would do some of that to buy some picks

Not that kind of stashing. Hertl will be back for the playoffs.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

Peter D.

Quote from: Guilt Trip on March 08, 2024, 04:23:30 PMLeafs are doing it as well and have done it often. They just haven't won. The phrase Robidas Island started with the Leafs. Rules are the rules and no one is breaking any. I remember reading/hearing that while some complained about it, the owners don't want to change the system.
I think it's great and I love that Vegas is going for it. There's no guarantees they'll even make the playoffs right now so we'll see.
Vegas does prove one thing, there are no excuses for not getting the player you want/need.

There's a difference between just burying guys in the minors, and stashing guys on LTIR for the regular season and having them miraculously return for Game 1 of the playoffs, no?

Like I suggested, I applaud the Golden Knights for exposing the rule and using it to their advantage.  And I usually don't mind it.  It just intrigues me that Vegas is the one primarily doing it.  Although on the flipside when I see a garbage franchise like Arizona take on dead contracts to artificially inflate their cap, it rankles me too.

Maybe what I'm trying to get to, long story short, is that I despise the cap system.

Guilt Trip

Quote from: Peter D. on March 08, 2024, 04:35:20 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on March 08, 2024, 04:23:30 PMLeafs are doing it as well and have done it often. They just haven't won. The phrase Robidas Island started with the Leafs. Rules are the rules and no one is breaking any. I remember reading/hearing that while some complained about it, the owners don't want to change the system.
I think it's great and I love that Vegas is going for it. There's no guarantees they'll even make the playoffs right now so we'll see.
Vegas does prove one thing, there are no excuses for not getting the player you want/need.

There's a difference between just burying guys in the minors, and stashing guys on LTIR for the regular season and having them miraculously return for Game 1 of the playoffs, no?

Like I suggested, I applaud the Golden Knights for exposing the rule and using it to their advantage.  And I usually don't mind it.  It just intrigues me that Vegas is the one primarily doing it.  Although on the flipside when I see a garbage franchise like Arizona take on dead contracts to artificially inflate their cap, it rankles me too.

Maybe what I'm trying to get to, long story short, is that I despise the cap system.
Vegas isn't the only team doing it. T Bay did it and that was more blatant. Do you think Vegas, who isn't in a guaranteed playoff spot are just sitting Stone out so they can add more players? They're a lot better with Stone in the lineup. And Hertl according to MJ could be ready before season's end and they could fit him in under the cap.
Now using dead contracts to get to the floor is a different animal.

cabber24

#235
Vegas is incredible, they will figure it out later, but today they're $20M over cap come playoff time and are Stanley Cup favourites. Figuring out next year's cap is a problem for another day.

Acquiring assets while schooling system.
Upon the wicked He will rain Jerseys; blue and white and burning waffles will be the portion of their cup.


herman

#27 #TeamFasstholes

herman

#238
https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/1792965189471777117
This seems like a cap circumvention yo-yoing but it's not like they won without him.

Preds clearing cap room is interesting though :D

edit:
https://twitter.com/MGsports_/status/1792969169606000830
Naturally
#27 #TeamFasstholes

CarltonTheBear

#239
Tampa trades away McDonagh when they shouldn't have (betting he would fall off in his 33 and 34-year old seasons, he didn't) and then reacquire him when they shouldn't (more likely to fall off in his 35 and 36-year old seasons, and they're in more of a cap bind with Stamkos). Alrighty.

Pretty tidy bit of business from Nashville though, but it also leaves a big hole in their defence.