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Lightning @ Maple Leafs - Nov. 6th, 7:00pm - SN, Fan 590

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CarltonTheBear

Tampa Bay Lightning
5-3-3, 13 points
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Toronto Maple Leafs
5-4-2, 12 points



                                                                      Projected
Lineups
                                                                     
Barre–Boulet-Cirelli-Kucherov
Eyssimont-Point-Hagel
Stamkos-Paul-Sheary
Jeannot-Glendening-Watson

Hedman-Cernak
Sergachev-Raddysh
de Haan-Bogosian

Johansson
Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Tavares-Nylander
Holmberg-Domi-Jarnkok
Gregor-Kampf-Reaves

Rielly-Brodie
Giordano-Klingberg
Lagesson-Benoit

Samsonov



Scratches
Nick Perbix
Jake McCabe
Maxime Lajoie



Injuries
•Tyle Motte - Hand - Injured Reserve
•Andrei Vasilevskiy - Back - Injured Reserve
•Jake McCabe - Lower Body - Questionable
•Conor Timmins - Lower Body - Injured Reserve
•Timothy Liljegren - Lower Body - Injured Reserve



Game notes
TB
•Jonas Johansson (5-1-3, 2.87 GAA, .916 Sv%) will likely start for the Lightning
•Johansson has had a season of highs and lows so far filling in for Andrei Vasilevskiy. In his 9 starts this season he's had 2 shutouts and 3 games below a .900 Sv%

TOR
•Ilya Samsonov (2-1-2, 3.56 GAA, .871 Sv%) will likely start for the Leafs
•After 4 straight losses Keefe made some changes to the forward lines putting Knies on the top line and Domi at the 3C position for the first time this season
•Jake McCabe took part in his first practice on Monday after missing the past 4 games with an injury. Keefe said he'll likely be a game time decision to play



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herman

Looking forward to the Nylander and Knies goals tonight.
#27 #TeamFasstholes


herman

I hope he sticks

Might be worth flipping Nylander and Jarnkrok and turning the third line into sheltered scoring exclusively.
#27 #TeamFasstholes

cabber24

Upon the wicked He will rain Jerseys; blue and white and burning waffles will be the portion of their cup.

herman

Quote from: cabber24 on November 06, 2023, 09:42:56 AMWho are those guys in the Leafs third pairing?

Lajoie, Lagesson, and Benoit are UFA depth defensemen signings from this past off-season.
They are not as good as Timmins, but Lagesson is a bit underrated. The other two are meh, but Benoit will hit stuff (to the detriment of his positioning).
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Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: herman on November 06, 2023, 09:39:20 AMI hope he sticks

Might be worth flipping Nylander and Jarnkrok and turning the third line into sheltered scoring exclusively.

I agree.  I think if they yo-yo Robertson, that could be a problem.
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

herman

I find Bertuzzi on the Tavares LW soaks up puck touches from Nylander because of his tunnel vision. I know he's trying to contribute and build back his confidence, but on that line, you really have to be Banana #3 and just fetch the puck, and only push it to the slot or circles.

59-91-19 would still be annoying to play against, and all three of them are pretty good in sloppy spade-work situations. Then it would make some sense for Bertuzzi to carry in transition and build some game feel. Jarnkrok is the perfect passenger as he has no puck handling expectations and his linemates should just leverage his wicked shot and tee him up.

11-88-89 would be a rush line, where Domi's tendency to stand still once he touches the puck is not that bad if he can just give-and-go with his better linemates. Their shoot-first mentality will also complement Domi's playmaking. If Keefe is willing to let Domi play centre, why not just let Nylander do it with his superior offensive vision and OZ slot presence.

Tampa is spreading their talent across 3 lines and I don't see the current third line as constructed (with 89) doing much.
#27 #TeamFasstholes

bustaheims

Quote from: herman on November 06, 2023, 10:01:13 AMI find Bertuzzi on the Tavares LW soaks up puck touches from Nylander because of his tunnel vision. I know he's trying to contribute and build back his confidence, but on that line, you really have to be Banana #3 and just fetch the puck, and only push it to the slot or circles.

59-91-19 would still be annoying to play against, and all three of them are pretty good in sloppy spade-work situations. Then it would make some sense for Bertuzzi to carry in transition and build some game feel. Jarnkrok is the perfect passenger as he has no puck handling expectations and his linemates should just leverage his wicked shot and tee him up.

11-88-89 would be a rush line, where Domi's tendency to stand still once he touches the puck is not that bad if he can just give-and-go with his better linemates. Their shoot-first mentality will also complement Domi's playmaking. If Keefe is willing to let Domi play centre, why not just let Nylander do it with his superior offensive vision and OZ slot presence.

I hear what you're saying, but, right now, it's sort of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" scenario with that line. Nylander and Tavares have both been producing so far, though Tavares has slowed down there. As long as that trio is contributing, it's worth trying to focus on finding combos that work for the other lines.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

CarltonTheBear

#9
Quote from: bustaheims on November 06, 2023, 10:10:48 AMI hear what you're saying, but, right now, it's sort of an "if it ain't broke, don't fix it" scenario with that line. Nylander and Tavares have both been producing so far, though Tavares has slowed down there. As long as that trio is contributing, it's worth trying to focus on finding combos that work for the other lines.

Leafs haven't scored a 5-on-5 goal with the Tavares/Nyander duo on the ice in the past 5 games. Willy has one 5-on-5 point (zero goals) in that span, Tavares zero points.

herman

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on November 06, 2023, 10:22:27 AMLeafs haven't scored a 5-on-5 goal with the Tavares/Nyander duo on the ice in the past 5 games. Willy has one 5-on-5 point (zero goals) in that span, Tavares zero points.

The rule is we can't have all 4 of them producing at the same time T___T
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CarltonTheBear

#11
Quote from: herman on November 06, 2023, 10:27:09 AM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on November 06, 2023, 10:22:27 AMLeafs haven't scored a 5-on-5 goal with the Tavares/Nyander duo on the ice in the past 5 games. Willy has one 5-on-5 point (zero goals) in that span, Tavares zero points.

The rule is we can't have all 4 of them producing at the same time T___T

Matthews and Marner each have 5 5-on-5 points in the last 5 games. The rest of the forwards combined have 5 (Jarnkrok 3, Willy 1, Kampf 1) and those 5 are all assists. If anything it's the 2nd line that could use the Knies boost right now. Although worth noting possession wise the top line is well below 50% with Jarnkrok so I guess everything is a bit of a mess right now.

azzurri63

Like the Robertson call up. Have no idea what they are doing with this kid. With some of the scrubs we have playing puzzles me how this kid isn't playing. As much as secondary scoring has been a problem it's the defence and goaltending that I'm worried about. They need to play a simpler more defensive minded game if they wanna win with this D until guys come back from injury or Treliving improves it.

CarltonTheBear

https://twitter.com/markhmasters/status/1721554224092246391

That would also suggest McCabe isn't playing, which feels like the right call after only 1 practice with the team even if the defence really needs him back.

Dappleganger

Quote from: azzurri63 on November 06, 2023, 10:47:00 AMLike the Robertson call up. Have no idea what they are doing with this kid. With some of the scrubs we have playing puzzles me how this kid isn't playing. As much as secondary scoring has been a problem it's the defence and goaltending that I'm worried about. They need to play a simpler more defensive minded game if they wanna win with this D until guys come back from injury or Treliving improves it.

Sounds like Nick will be on a line with Domi and Järnkrok.