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Samsonov's arbitration case - 1-yr 3.55M

Started by herman, July 19, 2023, 08:43:00 AM

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Deebo

A reminder that as of the 2020 CBA extension, they cannot settle after the hearing and prior to the award.

Dappleganger

So Leafs are just gonna walk away from Samsonov's contract if it comes in too high?

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 10:26:09 AMSo Leafs are just gonna walk away from Samsonov's contract if it comes in too high?

They'll only be able to walk away from a contract if the number comes in higher than around $4.5mil, which it almost certainly won't.

Dappleganger

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Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 21, 2023, 10:30:21 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 10:26:09 AMSo Leafs are just gonna walk away from Samsonov's contract if it comes in too high?

They'll only be able to walk away from a contract if the number comes in higher than around $4.5mil, which it almost certainly won't.

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bustaheims

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 21, 2023, 10:30:21 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 10:26:09 AMSo Leafs are just gonna walk away from Samsonov's contract if it comes in too high?

They'll only be able to walk away from a contract if the number comes in higher than around $4.5mil, which it almost certainly won't.

Would also be an extremely risky move unless they have a trade for another goalie lined up.
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CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 10:45:53 AM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 21, 2023, 10:30:21 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 10:26:09 AMSo Leafs are just gonna walk away from Samsonov's contract if it comes in too high?

They'll only be able to walk away from a contract if the number comes in higher than around $4.5mil, which it almost certainly won't.

😬


Again, he's not getting over $4.5mil. I'd be pretty stunned if he was even awarded something over $4mil.

Dappleganger

So we're talking LTIR for Murray?

If Sammy gets anything over $3m+ I don't think a Murray buyout will create enough space.

Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 01:19:47 PMSo we're talking LTIR for Murray?

If Sammy gets anything over $3m+ I don't think a Murray buyout will create enough space.


The Leafs have to have a plan here.  I can't think that they go from being able to do a pretty good job managing the cap and what they want to do with it, to being completely incompetent and having no way of becoming cap compliant in time to start the season in under 6 months.  Yes the GM is different, but ever there, the moves he has made signing players to 1 year deals probably means that he is at least cap aware.
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 01:19:47 PMSo we're talking LTIR for Murray?

If Sammy gets anything over $3m+ I don't think a Murray buyout will create enough space.

The Leafs can run a 20-man roster with Murray bought out and Timmins+Lafferty traded/waived and afford to pay Samsonov as much as $3.8mil. If he gets just $3.5mil the Leafs could afford to keep Lafferty on a 20-man roster.

Running a bare bones roster certainly isn't ideal, but it probably beats moving a larger salary piece to fit Samsonov in.

Dappleganger

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on July 21, 2023, 01:57:42 PM
Quote from: Dappleganger on July 21, 2023, 01:19:47 PMSo we're talking LTIR for Murray?

If Sammy gets anything over $3m+ I don't think a Murray buyout will create enough space.

The Leafs can run a 20-man roster with Murray bought out and Timmins+Lafferty traded/waived and afford to pay Samsonov as much as $3.8mil. If he gets just $3.5mil the Leafs could afford to keep Lafferty on a 20-man roster.

Running a bare bones roster certainly isn't ideal, but it probably beats moving a larger salary piece to fit Samsonov in.

OK, that is good news at $3.5m. I think the Leafs need to keep Lafferty. Timmins would probably clear waivers. 



Bender

Shouldn't this be settled by now?
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Deebo

Quote from: Bender on July 21, 2023, 04:05:15 PMShouldn't this be settled by now?

The hearing is probably over, they have 48 hours to come to a decision.

Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off

Quote from: Deebo on July 21, 2023, 04:11:35 PM
Quote from: Bender on July 21, 2023, 04:05:15 PMShouldn't this be settled by now?

The hearing is probably over, they have 48 hours to come to a decision.

Well I guess hitting refresh every five minutes for the last 8 hours was a waste of time. Sheesh.

4EVRLEAFAN

He's played well for us no question but I don't think he's the goalie to lead this team deep into the playoffs or to a Cup, no more than 3 mill.