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2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Started by herman, May 31, 2023, 09:04:55 AM

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herman

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1780984039500890479

Eligible for the playoffs (though realistically unlikely other than as a practice body). Not eligible for the Marlies but burns an ELC year.
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Highlander

Cade Webber officially a Leaf.  Lets hope he pans out.
"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

Joe

#1639
I seem to remember in another thread that his scouting profile is of the opinion that he has no NHL potential.

herman

#1640
https://mapleleafshotstove.com/2024/03/07/cade-webbe-toronto-maple-leafs-prospect/

No offensive element at all, but maxed out on all the defensive markers.

For a future 6th rd pick (trade with Carolina) this seems like a decent bet as we normally pick this type of project prospect in that range anyway, but this one is expedited to pro-playable.
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Joe

Quote from: herman on April 18, 2024, 12:27:58 PMhttps://mapleleafshotstove.com/2024/03/07/cade-webbe-toronto-maple-leafs-prospect/

No offensive element at all, but maxed out on all the defensive markers.

For a future 6th rd pick (trade with Carolina) this seems like a decent bet as we normally pick this type of project prospect in that range anyway, but this one is expedited to pro-playable.

Sorry that was a typo in my part. Meant to say scouting not scoring.

bustaheims

#1642
Quote from: Joe on April 18, 2024, 12:22:06 PMI seem to remember in another thread that his scouting profile is of the opinion that he has no NHL potential.

He seems to have taken a step forward this season, which a lot of publicly available scouting reports would not have considered yet (or at all - a lot don't get updated post draft).

His NHL potential is still limited, but he might be a potential 3rd pairing type - which, for a 6th round pick, is reasonable value.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

cw

Quote from: bustaheims on April 18, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: Joe on April 18, 2024, 12:22:06 PMI seem to remember in another thread that his scouting profile is of the opinion that he has no NHL potential.

He seems to have taken a step forward this season, which a lot of publicly available scouting reports would not have considered yet (or at all - a lot don't get updated post draft).

His NHL potential is still limited, but he might be a potential 3rd pairing type - which, for a 6th round pick, is reasonable value.

... maybe as a PK specialist - has the size to clear the crease.

I think they missed Holl in that role this year

herman

The way the Leafs prefer their defensemen to play from goaltender out:
- stop the cycle, free up puck for teammate
- disrupt the entry, free up puck for teammate
- pass the puck to the forwards where all the cap dollars are
- kettle the puck in the OZ by passing it to the forwards and pinching down the boards to stifle 50/50 breakouts

These shouldn't be too hard, or too expensive to find in the market. Once you try to get more scoring skill, that's when it starts to cost cap space.

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Guilt Trip

Quote from: cw on April 18, 2024, 06:42:26 PM
Quote from: bustaheims on April 18, 2024, 06:12:57 PM
Quote from: Joe on April 18, 2024, 12:22:06 PMI seem to remember in another thread that his scouting profile is of the opinion that he has no NHL potential.

He seems to have taken a step forward this season, which a lot of publicly available scouting reports would not have considered yet (or at all - a lot don't get updated post draft).

His NHL potential is still limited, but he might be a potential 3rd pairing type - which, for a 6th round pick, is reasonable value.

... maybe as a PK specialist - has the size to clear the crease.

I think they missed Holl in that role this year
I def think they missed PK Holl this year. 5v5 Holl not so much

herman

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Highlander

"In the beginners mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert's there are few"
                                           Sunryn Suzuki

cw

Maybe we'll see you next year, Matt ...
https://theahl.com/stats/player/4891/81/matt-murray

Didn't see the games but the stats are not encouraging.

Guilt Trip

Quote from: cw on April 20, 2024, 10:25:49 PMMaybe we'll see you next year, Matt ...
https://theahl.com/stats/player/4891/81/matt-murray

Didn't see the games but the stats are not encouraging.
He hadn't played in over a year and had bilateral hip surgery. The fact he played 3 games is a huge win.