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2023-24 Toronto Maple Leafs General Discussion

Started by herman, May 31, 2023, 09:04:55 AM

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Arn

Quote from: herman on June 15, 2023, 12:30:35 PM
Quote from: Arn on June 15, 2023, 11:42:07 AMHave seen Conor Browns name come up a few times in dispatches as a potential free agent signing. Would love to see him back.

If he is affordable! We're a bit flush with RWs if Acciari re-signs (Marner, Nylander, Jarnkrok, Lafferty, Acciari) though all but Marner have been used in LW/C positions. If we're fishing for depth signings or trades, I'd favour picking up more LW or RH Cs. Right-hand PK faceoff takers especially.

If we can swing the pieces for him, without losing Nylander or Knies, Elias Lindholm would be a great way for Treliving to start this transaction sheet.

The discussion seems to be he's coming off almost a season out injured with an ACL (or one of the knee ligaments) so would potentially take less to prove his fitness. Also mentioned he could be a half decent Kerfoot replacement as he could fill in a variety of places on a given night from spot duty on a wing with Matthews to a 3rd line role with PK responsibility. Would definitely take him if the deal was $2m or something.
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herman

#18
https://twitter.com/tavmarnythews/status/1669709779973951491
Nothing is set in stone yet, but if Treliving sweet talks Matthews into an 8 year deal at any number south of 15M AAV, that's a big time win.

edit: here's the excerpt
https://twitter.com/Sportsnet/status/1669734589580050432
#27

Bill_Berg_is_pissed_off

Quote from: herman on June 16, 2023, 09:23:15 AMhttps://twitter.com/tavmarnythews/status/1669709779973951491
Nothing is set in stone yet, but if Treliving sweet talks Matthews into an 8 year deal at any number south of 15M AAV, that's a big time win.

Love it! 8 years would be fantastic. Would be an excellent start for Treliving.

CarltonTheBear

I mean, of course the Leafs are pushing for 8 years.

CarltonTheBear

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1669732342741565441

I don't think we ever fully got a confirmation Keefe wasn't being let go but this probably serves as one if not.

Dappleganger

What if Matthews re-ups on a two-year deal below market value?

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 16, 2023, 10:48:05 AMhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1669732342741565441

I don't think we ever fully got a confirmation Keefe wasn't being let go but this probably serves as one if not.

Blah.  I'm skeptical that Treliving can get him to be more responsive in his game planning.  But maybe it makes sense to keep him for the time being if Matthews is comfortable with him.

Bender

Quote from: Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate on June 16, 2023, 11:07:43 AM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on June 16, 2023, 10:48:05 AMhttps://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1669732342741565441

I don't think we ever fully got a confirmation Keefe wasn't being let go but this probably serves as one if not.

Blah.  I'm skeptical that Treliving can get him to be more responsive in his game planning.  But maybe it makes sense to keep him for the time being if Matthews is comfortable with him.

I think they basically don't want a lame duck coach
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Nik

Quote from: herman on June 16, 2023, 09:23:15 AMNothing is set in stone yet, but if Treliving sweet talks Matthews into an 8 year deal at any number south of 15M AAV, that's a big time win.

Obviously I could be wrong but I really don't think Matthews pushes the salary structure that much. I think he gets somewhere between 12.75 and 13.5 so he can comfortably call himself the highest paid in the game but the idea he gets up to 14 or 15 seems unlikely to me.
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Zee

Quote from: Dappleganger on June 16, 2023, 10:49:19 AMWhat if Matthews re-ups on a two-year deal below market value?


Why would he do that?

Zee

Quote from: Nik on June 16, 2023, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: herman on June 16, 2023, 09:23:15 AMNothing is set in stone yet, but if Treliving sweet talks Matthews into an 8 year deal at any number south of 15M AAV, that's a big time win.

Obviously I could be wrong but I really don't think Matthews pushes the salary structure that much. I think he gets somewhere between 12.75 and 13.5 so he can comfortably call himself the highest paid in the game but the idea he gets up to 14 or 15 seems unlikely to me.

He's currently taking about 14% of the cap, so if they stick with that and project the cap to be 95 million in whatever year the deal ends, that's 13.3M so this makes sense.

herman

Quote from: Nik on June 16, 2023, 01:09:21 PM
Quote from: herman on June 16, 2023, 09:23:15 AMNothing is set in stone yet, but if Treliving sweet talks Matthews into an 8 year deal at any number south of 15M AAV, that's a big time win.

Obviously I could be wrong but I really don't think Matthews pushes the salary structure that much. I think he gets somewhere between 12.75 and 13.5 so he can comfortably call himself the highest paid in the game but the idea he gets up to 14 or 15 seems unlikely to me.

MacKinnon signed for 8 years at 15.27%, while Matthews is currently at 13.9% of cap @ signing.

I'm pretty sure it'll be 13.4M but not at 8 years (more like 4/5) as he wants 2 big deals with some stability without preventing the Leafs from icing competitive depth players. If he were to agree to 8, they'd have to account for the cap rising and I think that would push his ask to 15+, which is counter productive for both parties.
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Bullfrog

Quote from: Zee on June 16, 2023, 01:11:52 PM
Quote from: Dappleganger on June 16, 2023, 10:49:19 AMWhat if Matthews re-ups on a two-year deal below market value?


Why would he do that?

Ya, that doesn't make sense. His previous 5-year contract was smart, but at 26 years old, he's taking an 8 year contract.