Brad Treliving is new Leafs GM

CarltonTheBear · May 31, 2023, 08:38:10 AM

https://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1663902190983938050

Losing Dubas but keeping Keefe would be... a choice.

bustaheims · May 31, 2023, 08:38:38 AM

Neither the best nor the worst option out there. So, I give this the hearty 'meh' it deserves.

Joe · May 31, 2023, 08:46:55 AM

So excited to bring in the guy who gave Kadri a ridiculous contract, lost their young superstar for "reasons" and bungled signing their longtime star UFA player.

I'm really starting to think Shanahan may be a bit of a lunkhead.

herman · May 31, 2023, 08:47:36 AM

Zee · May 31, 2023, 08:49:52 AM

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 31, 2023, 08:38:10 AMhttps://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1663902190983938050

Losing Dubas but keeping Keefe would be... a choice.

You always leave yourself a bullet in the chamber. Treliving sticks with Keefe, things go badly he fires him and brings in "his guy"

RedLeaf · May 31, 2023, 08:56:23 AM

Maple Tree-Living. For now at least. Let's see how this all unfolds over the summer ... and how many Leafs have dropped come the fall.

bustaheims · May 31, 2023, 08:58:56 AM

Quote from: Joe on May 31, 2023, 08:46:55 AMSo excited to bring in the guy who gave Kadri a ridiculous contract, lost their young superstar for "reasons" and bungled signing their longtime star UFA player.

I'm really starting to think Shanahan may be a bit of a lunkhead.

I'm going to say having to stay in Calgary was the biggest factor for those moves. Gaudreau wanted to be closer to home and Tkachuk wanted to be not in Calgary. After that, Kadri was the best available UFA that could plug the holes left by those two wanting to not be in Cowtown. I don't put too much on Treliving there.

louisstamos · May 31, 2023, 09:01:28 AM

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 31, 2023, 08:38:10 AMhttps://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1663902190983938050

Losing Dubas but keeping Keefe would be... a choice.

After the playoffs, my thought was they should let go of both Keefe and Shannahan and keep/promote Dubas. It's weird to see them go with the exact opposite...

Dappleganger · May 31, 2023, 09:02:35 AM

Quote from: bustaheims on May 31, 2023, 08:58:56 AM
Quote from: Joe on May 31, 2023, 08:46:55 AMSo excited to bring in the guy who gave Kadri a ridiculous contract, lost their young superstar for "reasons" and bungled signing their longtime star UFA player.

I'm really starting to think Shanahan may be a bit of a lunkhead.

I'm going to say having to stay in Calgary was the biggest factor for those moves. Gaudreau wanted to be closer to home and Tkachuk wanted to be not in Calgary. After that, Kadri was the best available UFA that could plug the holes left by those two wanting to not be in Cowtown. I don't put too much on Treliving there.

*Or, pure speculation on my part, did they hate playing for the coach the GM picked to coach the team?

https://ca.style.yahoo.com/nhl-report-multiple-flames-players-rescinded-trade-requests-after-darryl-sutter-firing-151715990.html

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate · May 31, 2023, 09:04:03 AM

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 31, 2023, 08:38:10 AMhttps://twitter.com/Account4hockey/status/1663902190983938050

Losing Dubas but keeping Keefe would be... a choice.

As in, the worst possible one. I was happy to kind of side a bit with Shanahan in this thing with Dubas, but if he thinks Keefe is the one who can stay, he just turned me into a charter member of PAS.

I guess we'll see what Treliving thinks. Ugh.

Zanzibar Buck-Buck McFate · May 31, 2023, 09:05:28 AM

Quote from: RedLeaf on May 31, 2023, 08:56:23 AMMaple Tree-Living. For now at least. Let's see how this all unfolds over the summer ... and how many Leafs have dropped come the fall.

This could quickly go from Treliving to Tredying.

CarltonTheBear · May 31, 2023, 09:18:35 AM

Quote from: Dappleganger on May 31, 2023, 09:02:35 AM*Or, pure speculation on my part, did they hate playing for the coach the GM picked to coach the team?

https://ca.style.yahoo.com/nhl-report-multiple-flames-players-rescinded-trade-requests-after-darryl-sutter-firing-151715990.html

For whatever it's worth, most reports seem to say it was Calgary ownership that hired (and then extended) Sutter over Treliving's head.

Peter D. · May 31, 2023, 09:23:09 AM

Not fond at all of Keefe being kept, but the new GM usually likes to keep that one bullet for later on, so I guess we have to live with it. I was looking forward to a good purging in the organization from top down -- from GM, coach, and even a core forward or two.

bustaheims · May 31, 2023, 09:24:34 AM

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 31, 2023, 09:18:35 AM
Quote from: Dappleganger on May 31, 2023, 09:02:35 AM*Or, pure speculation on my part, did they hate playing for the coach the GM picked to coach the team?

https://ca.style.yahoo.com/nhl-report-multiple-flames-players-rescinded-trade-requests-after-darryl-sutter-firing-151715990.html

For whatever it's worth, most reports seem to say it was Calgary ownership that hired (and then extended) Sutter over Treliving's head.

Yeah. I'm sure Sutter had an influence, but it definitely felt like he was forced on Treliving rather than chosen by him.

And, as messy as the ownership situation is here, I can't envision that happening.

CarltonTheBear · May 31, 2023, 09:28:29 AM

Quote from: bustaheims on May 31, 2023, 09:24:34 AMYeah. I'm sure Sutter had an influence, but it definitely felt like he was forced on Treliving rather than chosen by him.

Furthermore Friedman wrote that it's believed a big reason Treliving left the Flames was because of his "deteriorating relationship with Sutter". At the time Sutter still had 2 years left on his contract and it seemed like ownership was standing with him. He was fired a couple weeks later, almost certainly once the trade requests from players became too much to ignore.