Who should the next GM be? The next head coach?

[archie holdsworth]

Doug Wilson, Dean Lombardi, Mike Gillis. The Leafs should interview all of these candidates and others. If it takes a bit longer and fans get restless, so be it. It doesn't matter as long as the Leafs make the right choice, or at least a good choice.

But they do only have a bit longer, not a lot longer.

[CarltonTheBear]

Doug Wilson, Dean Lombardi, Mike Gillis. The Leafs should interview all of these candidates and others. If it takes a bit longer and fans get restless, so be it. It doesn't matter as long as the Leafs make the right choice, or at least a good choice.

But they do only have a bit longer, not a lot longer.

I'm getting slightly restless only because there's a part of me worried that they've just spent the last 10 days debating the pros and cons of Treliving. But if there's a wide range of worthwhile candidates they're legitimately considering, and especially if some of them aren't available to talk yet (like McPhee and/or Nill), then obviously the hold up is justified.

Ideally though having someone hired by this weekend would be great. That gives them about 4 weeks until the draft/free agency.

[herman]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1663545889489817601

[L K]

Doug Wilson, Dean Lombardi, Mike Gillis. The Leafs should interview all of these candidates and others. If it takes a bit longer and fans get restless, so be it. It doesn't matter as long as the Leafs make the right choice, or at least a good choice.

But they do only have a bit longer, not a lot longer.

I'm getting slightly restless only because there's a part of me worried that they've just spent the last 10 days debating the pros and cons of Treliving. But if there's a wide range of worthwhile candidates they're legitimately considering, and especially if some of them aren't available to talk yet (like McPhee and/or Nill), then obviously the hold up is justified.

Ideally though having someone hired by this weekend would be great. That gives them about 4 weeks until the draft/free agency.

That's probably the thing.  We don't know what is going on with the GM search but the names that keep hitting the media are more of the Treliving, Chiarelli, Bergevin variety.  None of those names encourage me.   If they are interviewing other candidates that just aren't leaking out, great.  I'm also concerned that they are set on Treliving and are just going through the motions on evaluating a decisions they have already made. 

[Rob]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

[CarltonTheBear]

https://twitter.com/friedgehnic/status/1663545889489817601

He spent 3 years as the HC of their AHL team prior to coming to the Leafs, so as Friedman says no real surprise here. Carbery could be a really good coach but I also don't think you need to be some sort of hockey prodigy to put together one really good PP unit with the guys he's had access to.

[Peter D.]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

Does the same apply to the team that hires Dubas?

[bustaheims]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

Does the same apply to the team that hires Dubas?

Same applies to a huge swath of all GM and coach hires.

[Arn]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

Does the same apply to the team that hires Dubas?

Not really, cos he wasn't fired because of performance.

[CarltonTheBear]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

Does the same apply to the team that hires Dubas?

Same applies to a huge swath of all GM and coach hires.

Doug Wilson was never fired as a NHL exec.

[bustaheims]

Also, here are some fun facts:

GMs who have won the Cup with multiple franchises:
Tommy Gorman
Jim Rutherford

Coaches who have won the Cup with multiple franchises:
Tommy Gorman
Dick Irvin
Scotty Bowman

[Bill33]

I guess that ideally, if it's true that Shanahan has already set parameters around the core 4,and even if he hasn't - I'd just as well he took the GM position with Pridham's elevated support - instead of picking from a parade of retreads and retirees.

I'm sure he's smart enough to pass on the idea, though.

[Kaberle15]

If most of the top decisions for the team would need to go through Shanahan, it makes sense that he is the new GM as well.

[Peter D.]

Look at our shiny new GM!!!  We ONLY got him because he got fired from his last job!  Isn't he great!?!?!?!?!?!!!???!!!?  He failed so hard at his last job that he was fired, but things will be different this time!  WE PROMISE!!!!

Does the same apply to the team that hires Dubas?

Same applies to a huge swath of all GM and coach hires.

That was kind of my point...

[CarltonTheBear]

I'm getting slightly restless only because there's a part of me worried that they've just spent the last 10 days debating the pros and cons of Treliving. But if there's a wide range of worthwhile candidates they're legitimately considering, and especially if some of them aren't available to talk yet (like McPhee and/or Nill), then obviously the hold up is justified.

https://twitter.com/DarrenDreger/status/1663722334245605376

Looking more and more like it's been the former.