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Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

Any chance the Leafs swing a deal for Markstrom, accepting that goalies are voodoo?

herman

Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on February 13, 2024, 01:44:12 PMAny chance the Leafs swing a deal for Markstrom, accepting that goalies are voodoo?

Saros is on the verge of being available  too but I don't think the Leafs are quite as desperate (or cap flexible) as New Jersey for goalies.
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herman

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CarltonTheBear

If Nashville ends up selling at the deadline I think acquiring a Carrier+Trenin duo from them could really round out the type of line-up we've had over the past week or so once everyone is back:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Domi-Nylander
McMann-Tavares-Robertson
Trenin-Kampf-Jarnkrok

Rielly-Carrier
Brodie-Liljegren
Benoit-McCabe

Samsonov
Woll

Trenin's a checking forward with good defensive metrics who can hit and kill penalties. Along with a returning Jarnkrok they could finally form a Kampf 4th line that can properly eat a ton of defensive minutes, which is key because even if that middle-6 forward group continues to play well they would still require some level of sheltering. Jarnkrok gets buried a little in this line-up which isn't entirely fair to him but he can still take shifts on any of the top-3 lines in certain situations to boost his minutes.

Carrier's an undersized, mobile two-way RHD who might not exactly be the ideal defenceman we're looking for but his defensive metrics are pretty good, he can kill penalties, and he can block a lot of shots. And if the play of the other two defensive pairings over the past week and a half can be counted on to continue then Rielly might not need a higher end partner to carry tough minutes since the load can be shared by everyone.

Alternatively a Sam Carrick+Ilya Lyubushkin rental duo from Anaheim could round out the line-up in similar ways (but not exactly be as good) if the Nashville duo is unattainable.

Bender

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on February 22, 2024, 12:18:25 PMIf Nashville ends up selling at the deadline I think acquiring a Carrier+Trenin duo from them could really round out the type of line-up we've had over the past week or so once everyone is back:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Domi-Nylander
McMann-Tavares-Robertson
Trenin-Kampf-Jarnkrok

Rielly-Carrier
Brodie-Liljegren
Benoit-McCabe

Samsonov
Woll

Trenin's a checking forward with good defensive metrics who can hit and kill penalties. Along with a returning Jarnkrok they could finally form a Kampf 4th line that can properly eat a ton of defensive minutes, which is key because even if that middle-6 forward group continues to play well they would still require some level of sheltering. Jarnkrok gets buried a little in this line-up which isn't entirely fair to him but he can still take shifts on any of the top-3 lines in certain situations to boost his minutes.

Carrier's an undersized, mobile two-way RHD who might not exactly be the ideal defenceman we're looking for but his defensive metrics are pretty good, he can kill penalties, and he can block a lot of shots. And if the play of the other two defensive pairings over the past week and a half can be counted on to continue then Rielly might not need a higher end partner to carry tough minutes since the load can be shared by everyone.

Alternatively a Sam Carrick+Ilya Lyubushkin rental duo from Anaheim could round out the line-up in similar ways (but not exactly be as good) if the Nashville duo is unattainable.

How do we feel about our C position? Feels odd to have Domi as the 2C...
"They say you can judge a man by the company he keeps. So here is the professor's oldest friend, a grotesque, stinking lobster." - Bender

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Bender on February 22, 2024, 12:22:57 PMHow do we feel about our C position? Feels odd to have Domi as the 2C...

I think in situations where Tavares and Nylander are split up like this the distinction between the 2nd and 3rd lines is entirely meaningless.

With that said I feel roughly the same way I would if Tavares was 2C and Domi 3C: it creates a middle-6 forward group that can't really be expected to handle defensive assignments consistently. That puts a lot of pressure on the 1st and 4th lines to do so. I don't think that's a problem that can really be solved this season, especially if a guy like Henrique is going to cost a 1st rounder, so it's best to just accept them for what they are and hope to beef up the 4th line into something that can take some of the defensive pressure off the 1st line at times.

princedpw

Any thoughts after seeing Dumba last night?  Is he good at defense? Is he a reasonable investment on the right with Rielly?

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: princedpw on February 22, 2024, 12:37:58 PMAny thoughts after seeing Dumba last night?  Is he good at defense? Is he a reasonable investment on the right with Rielly?

I think he'd probably be fine as a Plan C/D option at the last minute, but I wouldn't give up more than a mid-round pick for him. He's a RHD that could play with Rielly which accomplishes the goal of keeping the other two pairings together but he hasn't exactly had a good season with Arizona so doesn't move the needle all that much.

OldTimeHockey

Are we assuming that Giordano will drop to the #7 spot?

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: OldTimeHockey on February 22, 2024, 12:58:14 PMAre we assuming that Giordano will drop to the #7 spot?

If the Leafs acquire another defenceman at the deadline then yeah I mean him and Benoit would need to share the 6/7 spots. I'd give Benoit the leg up if I had to pick right now but Keefe could certainly decide to go with the veteran instead.

It could also come down to who the Leafs pick up. If it's someone like Carrier or Dumba then Benoit's size/toughness would still be more of a need on the blue line. If it's someone like Tanev or Lyubushkin then maybe not.

Regardless it's very likely both would see playing time at some point in the playoffs.

cw

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on February 22, 2024, 12:18:25 PMIf Nashville ends up selling at the deadline I think acquiring a Carrier+Trenin duo from them could really round out the type of line-up we've had over the past week or so once everyone is back:

Knies-Matthews-Marner
Bertuzzi-Domi-Nylander
McMann-Tavares-Robertson
Trenin-Kampf-Jarnkrok

Rielly-Carrier
Brodie-Liljegren
Benoit-McCabe

Samsonov
Woll

Trenin's a checking forward with good defensive metrics who can hit and kill penalties. Along with a returning Jarnkrok they could finally form a Kampf 4th line that can properly eat a ton of defensive minutes, which is key because even if that middle-6 forward group continues to play well they would still require some level of sheltering. Jarnkrok gets buried a little in this line-up which isn't entirely fair to him but he can still take shifts on any of the top-3 lines in certain situations to boost his minutes.

Carrier's an undersized, mobile two-way RHD who might not exactly be the ideal defenceman we're looking for but his defensive metrics are pretty good, he can kill penalties, and he can block a lot of shots. And if the play of the other two defensive pairings over the past week and a half can be counted on to continue then Rielly might not need a higher end partner to carry tough minutes since the load can be shared by everyone.

Alternatively a Sam Carrick+Ilya Lyubushkin rental duo from Anaheim could round out the line-up in similar ways (but not exactly be as good) if the Nashville duo is unattainable.

I like your posts like this .. offering good ideas
Trenin is an interesting idea I wouldn't have thought of.

I'm not too excited about burning a 1st rounder.

So I wondered, have Rielly-McCabe been exhausted as a potential pairing?
I don't remember them playing much together? A couple of games?
I know McCabe preferred the left side but he's doing ok with Benoit so ...

If it worked:

Rielly-McCabe
Brodie-Liljegren
Benoit-_______ (maybe Carrier here)

I think Benoit is so attached to his defensive role, he'd be ok without McCabe

Shouldn't cost as much young talent to fill that 5-6 spot.

Before I burned a top prospect or pick, I'd want to make sure Rielly-McCabe isn't an option.
Maybe others here have a better recall on how it worked out previously.

OldTimeHockey

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on February 22, 2024, 01:29:09 PM
Quote from: OldTimeHockey on February 22, 2024, 12:58:14 PMAre we assuming that Giordano will drop to the #7 spot?

If the Leafs acquire another defenceman at the deadline then yeah I mean him and Benoit would need to share the 6/7 spots. I'd give Benoit the leg up if I had to pick right now but Keefe could certainly decide to go with the veteran instead.

It could also come down to who the Leafs pick up. If it's someone like Carrier or Dumba then Benoit's size/toughness would still be more of a need on the blue line. If it's someone like Tanev or Lyubushkin then maybe not.

Regardless it's very likely both would see playing time at some point in the playoffs.

While I'll agree that having Giordano play less might be the right move, I'm not confident in Keefe doing so.

herman

Quote from: herman on November 30, 2023, 10:03:36 AMThis one might be tricky to pull off, but given there's a bunch of expiring deals on the backend, I'd like to swing for some term as well as mobility:
Mike Matheson (currently on Montreal) has a 4.85M AAV for 2 more seasons after this one (and a M-NTC) to close out the 8 year deal he received from Florida. It's a bit like adding another McCabe, especially if we can swing any retention.

Can't quite think of what they'd want from us that we'd be willing to part with, other than maybe William Villeneuve and he hasn't pushed himself into any noteworthy conversation other than the Memorial Cup and being from Quebec.

He's a defensive blackhole though :D Could probably shred a bottom-pair, sheltered 3rd-line combo though if he's buddied up with a boring partner.

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Big Daddy

Since the lineup is set except for callups of course
And with everyone available what's the hopeful lineup
Mine without bias, prejudice, or feeling

Holmberg-Matthews-Nylander
Bertuzzi-Domi-Marner
Knies-Tavares-McMann
Jarnkrok-Kampf-Dewar
Robertson, Reaves, Gregor

Rielly-Brodie
Benoit-McCabe
Edmundson-Liljegren
Giordano, Lyubushkin, Timmons

Samsonov
Woll