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Armchair GM Thread 2024-25

Started by herman, May 05, 2024, 01:20:37 AM

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cw

I looked at some video of Alex in his OHL days. He had some pretty good skill. Not sure what happened. Nobody has touched him so there's something wrong. I'd want to know what that is and have some sort of a shot at a prospective fix before signing him. His recent NHL teams probably thought that when they signed him.

If Hakanpaa signing goes through, Dewar arbitration, Steeves RFA signing and they sort things out with Robertson, that is 4 more NHL contracts, taking them to 47. If Hakanpaa is good to go, they may flip Liljegren for a 3rd line center so they're still at 47. Maybe Robertson is dumped for a pick so that might free up one. You'd want 1 or 2 to give you flexibility for trades. You'd like 1 or 2 for picking up depth guys like Benoit in August last year.

If I had to call it now and they had some idea of how to turn him around and felt it would not be a problem for his brother, I might offer him a PTO to AHL deal path like they did Bellows and if he blows them away, a NHL deal. Leafs can afford to throw some good money at it to attract him. They have great facilities and a good development staff who might be able to straighten him out (probably between the ears). He might be able to stay with his brother and get his career back on track.

My focus would be on getting a 3rd line center who can check and score some (maybe via a Liljegren/Robertson trade).

Dappleganger

Quote from: bustaheims on July 08, 2024, 03:46:57 PM
Quote from: Frank E on July 08, 2024, 01:35:40 PMI'd say the risk is if big brother doesn't like how little brother is being treated RE ice time, linemates, getting sent down, etc... or if it looks like Alex is getting preferential treatment...those things could create some issues/dissention.

That doesn't seem like it would an issue with Willy. He doesn't let much bother him and he seems to understand the business and winning aspects of the league. Unless Alex is actually performing well and getting the shaft, he'd be in board with whatever needs to happen.

That being said, the younger Nylander seems like a prime candidate for a PTO if he doesn't sign somewhere. I'd also have no problem signing him to whatever current buriable max cap hit is ($1.15m, I think) - though that does create potential cap complications, it also makes a waivers claim a little less likely.

Sure, I hear ya, but I only see that happening if the Leafs don't give Alex a fair shake but I don't see that being an issue with this front office. It's worth the risk I guess?


Joe

Other than his name I don't understand at all what the appeal would be.

What's his ceiling? Kapanen? Honestly what use would be have. He's not a centre, he's not a defensive specialist, he's not a penalty killer, he's not tough. He doesn't address any of the needs the leafs have.

CarltonTheBear

Quote from: Joe on July 08, 2024, 08:10:00 PMOther than his name I don't understand at all what the appeal would be.

What's his ceiling? Kapanen? Honestly what use would be have. He's not a centre, he's not a defensive specialist, he's not a penalty killer, he's not tough. He doesn't address any of the needs the leafs have.

Depth scoring has pretty much always been an issue with the team to some degree. And one thing A. Nylander has shown in his career is that he can score. Wouldn't hurt to have someone like that in the organization, either in the NHL or in the AHL. Again I certainly wouldn't expect him to be playing all 82 games or anything like that but a piece like him can be useful even just as an injury replacement. The Marlies right now have some interesting energy-type players but nobody you'd be able to plug into the top-6 for a short period of time and expect to score.

But sure the Willy connection makes it a little cooler.

Arn

I'm sure it's happened but certainly I can't think of the leafs having brothers playing in my time (back the late 90s kind of era).
I Saw Jay McClement Score.

Dappleganger

Quote from: Arn on July 09, 2024, 03:50:32 AMI'm sure it's happened but certainly I can't think of the leafs having brothers playing in my time (back the late 90s kind of era).

Shayne Corson and Darcy Tucker were brothers-in-law, but that's about as close as you get from 90's to today.

*They also played together for Montreal.



bustaheims

#321
Quote from: Joe on July 08, 2024, 08:10:00 PMOther than his name I don't understand at all what the appeal would be.

What's his ceiling? Kapanen? Honestly what use would be have. He's not a centre, he's not a defensive specialist, he's not a penalty killer, he's not tough. He doesn't address any of the needs the leafs have.

Like others have said, he's a potential cheap depth scoring option and possibly a diamond in the rough, with the right coaching and other resources could blossom into a quality player. He's not an exciting add, nor does he fill a pressing need - which is why no one is suggesting adding him as more than someone who could potentially bounce between the Leafs and Marlies - but he probably comes cheap with no commitment, so what's the harm, especially considering the UFA market has basically been picked bare.
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

herman

#322
Alex Nylander struggles a bit with:
  • off puck consistency
  • carrying the puck consistently

but is quite good at:
  • getting lost in the OZ
  • putting the puck into the net

Like an inverse Ilya Mikheyev, or a budget Patrik Laine with more of a finesse rather than power finish. He would need to be surrounded by worker bee linemates who can spring him for cherry picks or breakaways.

Unfortunately, his prime development years were lost in Buffalo's non-existent dev system (at the time) and then Chicago's tank-a-thon.
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Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

On the subject of brothers, recall Ulf and Kjell Samuelsson for the Penguins when I got NHLPA hockey for my Sega Megadrive in 1993 (was it branded as Genesis in Canada?). Used to mostly play as the Penguins and assumed they were brothers for some reason but having Googled seen they were not related at all.

Rob

Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on July 09, 2024, 03:22:18 PMOn the subject of brothers, recall Ulf and Kjell Samuelsson for the Penguins when I got NHLPA hockey for my Sega Megadrive in 1993 (was it branded as Genesis in Canada?). Used to mostly play as the Penguins and assumed they were brothers for some reason but having Googled seen they were not related at all.

Genesis in North America.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

Quote from: Rob on July 09, 2024, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on July 09, 2024, 03:22:18 PMOn the subject of brothers, recall Ulf and Kjell Samuelsson for the Penguins when I got NHLPA hockey for my Sega Megadrive in 1993 (was it branded as Genesis in Canada?). Used to mostly play as the Penguins and assumed they were brothers for some reason but having Googled seen they were not related at all.

Genesis in North America.

Thanks, I thought so. There's an alternative reality where I could have been a Pens fans because of Lemieux but I didn't have any team for the first five years or so of following hockey via the weekly highlights shows we got...until one of the main UK channels started covering the NHL live twice a week in 1998 and the Leafs signed Stockport born Steve Thomas.

(Sorry for the slight derailing)

Zee

Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on July 09, 2024, 05:04:46 PM
Quote from: Rob on July 09, 2024, 04:07:02 PM
Quote from: Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington on July 09, 2024, 03:22:18 PMOn the subject of brothers, recall Ulf and Kjell Samuelsson for the Penguins when I got NHLPA hockey for my Sega Megadrive in 1993 (was it branded as Genesis in Canada?). Used to mostly play as the Penguins and assumed they were brothers for some reason but having Googled seen they were not related at all.

Genesis in North America.

Thanks, I thought so. There's an alternative reality where I could have been a Pens fans because of Lemieux but I didn't have any team for the first five years or so of following hockey via the weekly highlights shows we got...until one of the main UK channels started covering the NHL live twice a week in 1998 and the Leafs signed Stockport born Steve Thomas.

(Sorry for the slight derailing)

Another sad origin story.