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Kyle Dubas not returning as GM

Started by CarltonTheBear, May 19, 2023, 10:58:11 AM

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Bill_Berg

Quote from: Rob on May 25, 2023, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

You can't have your cake and eat it too. 

I want a GM that can though.

Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington

But will the new GM trade our MG for a white Chrysler LeBaron?

Zee

Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I think Wickenheiser wears a short skirt with a long jacket

Significantly Insignificant

Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.
"We can't change what's done, we can only move on." - Arthur Morgan

Frank E

Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

Nah nah nah nah nah...

Nik

Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

It's the only way for the Leafs to go the distance.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

Guilt Trip

Quote from: L K on May 25, 2023, 01:53:12 PM
Quote from: Guilt Trip on May 25, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Quote from: herman on May 25, 2023, 11:47:52 AMhttps://theathletic.com/4549473/2023/05/25/maple-leafs-kyle-dubas-3/

QuoteShanahan went from wanting to bring Dubas back to firing him in a matter of days. And then offered his version of events in a press conference that left people inside the organization confused and upset.

Jason Spezza resigned before that press conference even began. The popular former Leaf who retired into a role with the front office after the 2021-22 season has declined to address the matter any further than that. That was intentional. Spezza wanted his actions to do the talking.

[...]

After a 19-year playing career in the NHL, in which he earned an estimated $90 million, according to CapFriendly, Spezza could afford to walk away. Others who felt the same, who were inclined to follow their leader out the door, couldn't given they lacked that same sense of financial security.

It's security they have because of Dubas.

Though he wasn't offered an extension himself, not until after the trade deadline, Dubas fought to extend staff members who entered last season with expiring contracts. He got them extended with one, two, and three-year deals.

At least one staff member was inclined to ride things out with Dubas for an uncertain year. Dubas insisted — take the security, protect your family.

"Don't worry about me," he told his people. "I'll be OK."
Sounds like a pretty amazing boss. There are so many stories of what an absolute amazing human being Dubas is and how he treated everyone. We don't get the behind the scenes look but I'll always remember Dubas for 2 things. Staying with Mikheyev in Jersey and him running down the stairs on the phone when Tavares got hurt. The guy cares for people. The Leafs lost a great person.

I think this is part of why losing him sucked so much.  He's a nice guy and I really like the setup of our front office over this.  Contrast that to the team that gets Bedard this year (or our organization under Ballard) and it was just nice not having to worry about our front office doing something stupid.

When Fletcher had his melt-down over the Muskoka 5 and was disrespecting Mats it really ticked me off.  Dubas standing by our players through their playoff struggles mattered to me from a GM perspective.  I hope whoever replaces him can at least keep some of those elements in place.
Couldn't agree more. I really hated how they treated Mats at the end. Guy played his heart out for the Leafs and then because he wouldn't waive his no trade they didn't treat him so nice.

Rob

Quote from: Nik on May 25, 2023, 07:03:14 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 05:41:37 PM
Quote from: Bill_Berg_is_less_sad on May 25, 2023, 02:37:49 PM
Quote from: Significantly Insignificant on May 25, 2023, 02:30:41 PMI want a GM that forechecks hard, clears the front of the net, and makes the timely save in a game.
I want a GM who gets up early, stays up late, with uninterrupted prosperity, and who uses a machete to cut through red tape.

I want a GM with a short cap debt and a long........playoff bracket.

It's the only way for the Leafs to go the distance.

Churning and burning, they yearn for the cup.

herman

https://twitter.com/yyzsportsmedia/status/1662193153196310529
From the guy that watches the watchmen: a fairly thorough summary of everything that was said and written
#27 #TeamFasstholes

Dappleganger

My opinion. Dubas was coming for the President of Hockey Ops job and Shanahan was like, I don't think so, that's my job. Simple as that.

Nik

Quote from: Dappleganger on May 27, 2023, 08:57:26 AMMy opinion. Dubas was coming for the President of Hockey Ops job and Shanahan was like, I don't think so, that's my job. Simple as that.


Terrific. Good to know big decisions being made are about the strength of the hockey team.
I wish to hell I'd never said "Winning isn't everything it's the only thing". What I believe is, if you go out on a football field, or any endeavour in life, and you leave every fibre of what you have on the field, then you've won.
- Vince Lombardi

herman

#341
https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/1663210656185589762
2:00 Pittsburgh staff are prepping like they're expecting Dubas to take the job, but nothing confirmed.

12:00 Leafs GM update: Treliving was in Toronto last week and is the apparent frontrunner by Friedman's estimation. EF has not confirmed any other in-person interviewees but there has been at least one other.

For Keefe, Shanahan wants to leave it to the new GM
For the core 3, Shanahan prefers them to be in the fold

Interviewees will be grilled on what their approach with these main components will be.
#27 #TeamFasstholes

CarltonTheBear

The longer this goes the less likely Treliving is their absolute #1 target... right?

bustaheims

Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 29, 2023, 12:02:20 PMThe longer this goes the less likely Treliving is their absolute #1 target... right?

It feels like a lot of the "insiders" latched on to him as a possibility before Dubas was even let go, and they're just sticking with it. But, who knows?
"Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts." - Daniel Patrick Moynihan

L K

Quote from: bustaheims on May 29, 2023, 12:24:48 PM
Quote from: CarltonTheBear on May 29, 2023, 12:02:20 PMThe longer this goes the less likely Treliving is their absolute #1 target... right?

It feels like a lot of the "insiders" latched on to him as a possibility before Dubas was even let go, and they're just sticking with it. But, who knows?

At this point Shanahan should just stick his neck out and be the GM instead of playing puppet master crap.